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Jury reaches a verdict in the Jackson case. (Update - Not Guilty ALL Counts)
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Posted on 06/13/2005 12:36:01 PM PDT by Dog

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To: Howlin

I didn't follow this case closely except for the daily updates and discussions that I'd catch. Did the prosecution, in your opinion, address the issue of the type of people a pedophile stalks and/or victimizes?


2,181 posted on 06/13/2005 3:46:21 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: HairOfTheDog
What is the context for the snapping fingers? It sure had a lot of impact.... Anyone know?

Just a guess, but it must be a lot like twitching one's nose.

2,182 posted on 06/13/2005 3:46:33 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (McCain is still scum)
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To: conservativebabe

"predominating factor"..It's NOT just you. After this conference, it will be all over Court TV tonight!


2,183 posted on 06/13/2005 3:46:40 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Dog

Proof that you can get away with anything if you a music celebrity or actor.


2,184 posted on 06/13/2005 3:46:46 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: nightowl
I NEVER thought Michael Jackson was guilty. I always thought he was weird and a man who never had a childhood and had his childhood through these children. After all, he never tried to hide his behavior. Child molesters DO ... I am not surprised at this conservative white jury finding him not guilty. After all, I am a FAR right-wing conservative, throw-the-bum-in-jail and throw away the key kind of gal. I am NOT a Jackson fan, never bought his music and never listened to it if I could help it. I do believe in justice though. No matter what you think, justice was served today...

Make that two of us -- non-Jackson fan, TTBIJTATK kind of gal, who also figured that the fact that he never tried to hide his behavior said something. In addition:

1. More than most, I'm around prolifically productive, weirdly creative artist-type people and know how eccentric they are at their core. I have witnessed, seen, sometimes shared, their eccentric but innocent lifestyles that conventional people would NEVER, could never, believe were innocent (with regard to drugs or booze) because of their own lack of eccentricy or exposure to it. And Jackson has been a superstar since he was 11 years old, never had a "normal" life or had to learn and/or deal with real-world conventions regarding how he may or may not appear to outsiders. It's not a stretch at all for me to believe he is, quite simply, child-like in a non-sexual way (God knows I've been around enough kids-who-never-grew-up and who live great lives because of it!). I'd need more than the word of proven grifters to convince me otherwise.

2. I have spoken with people who've worked professionally with Jackson, and they all say that he is weird, alright, but magical, and extremely kind. Like you, and like me, they think he's innocent.

3. They found heterosexual adult average porn his his home -- not child porn, not gay porn, just regular ol' Hustlers and such. That's about the most NORMAL thing about the guy!! And I laughed when I heard about it.

If there is ever compelling proof that he has sexually molested little kids, then he deserves the punishment. But short of compelling proof, all I see is a lynch mob used to living within the confines of a small island.

2,185 posted on 06/13/2005 3:47:10 PM PDT by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: truthkeeper

That's why I stated that MJ definitely exhibits pedophile tendencies. I'd like to have seen him thrown in jail too. But the prosecution just didn't get the job done. They mishandled the case and then compounded their errors by having as witnesses people who were easily outed as scam artists and grifters.


2,186 posted on 06/13/2005 3:47:19 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Don't You Think This Outlaw Bit's Done Got Out Of Hand?)
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To: conservativebabe; Howlin; Mo1

"Is it me, or does it just seem like dislike for the mother was the predominating factor here?"

Seems like it to me. Including many here on this thread at FR even.

Its a sad day in America.


2,187 posted on 06/13/2005 3:47:22 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Howlin

So they let MJ walk because the boy's mom offended them? But, they looked at ALL the evidence. Yeah right.

Abrams going on about the dislike of mother now.


2,188 posted on 06/13/2005 3:47:23 PM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: Dog; All

Back in the '60's when John Lennon said that the Beatles were greater than Jesus Christ or some such, in northern Alabama Beatles records were burned in bonfires. I wish this would happen as well to Jackson but it won't because our country no longer has principles, values and integrity.


2,189 posted on 06/13/2005 3:47:25 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: spectre

Dan Abrams, MSNBC exclaiming: WOW, These jurors didn't like this mother at all! Wow!


2,190 posted on 06/13/2005 3:47:30 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: spectre

They seem very defensive and they're acting like they're hiding something. They're all smiling like Moonies.

The laughing and joking is just plain innappropriate.

This was a bad jury -they don't seem very bright.


2,191 posted on 06/13/2005 3:47:33 PM PDT by somerville
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To: Peach
The ONLY thing they've said is that they didn't like the mother.

Yep, the old "she asked for me" rationale.

2,192 posted on 06/13/2005 3:47:36 PM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: Dolphy

I thought he did. Evidently they hated her.

So it's okay that he's a pedophille.


2,193 posted on 06/13/2005 3:47:48 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Fudd Fan
The jury has obviously been watching defense lawyers on TV at night.

They smeared this family from way back before the trial started when one of MJ att filed a complaint about welfare fraud to the state, so they could claim in court that she was being investigated.
2,194 posted on 06/13/2005 3:47:50 PM PDT by roses of sharon (,)
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To: marajade

I think her maiden name was Fuhrman, wasn't it?


2,195 posted on 06/13/2005 3:47:56 PM PDT by mikrofon (Drinks at Neverland on the house! [under 18 only])
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To: Fudd Fan

It's deeper than that! The mother was a problem to the case.

What just happened? Is it over? everyone cut away.


2,196 posted on 06/13/2005 3:47:57 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: JeffAtlanta
It also seems that they were coached by the judge to avoid certain comments.

Uh-uh. He explicitly told them to talk, and to talk as much as they wanted, that it would be good for them to do so (from Laura Ingle's report).

I believe it was their book agents and various TV interview shows that said "We pay MORE if you don't give away any freebies."

This whole thing makes me SICK.

2,197 posted on 06/13/2005 3:48:05 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: HairOfTheDog

The mother snapping the fingers at them obviously made them let a pedophile walk!


2,198 posted on 06/13/2005 3:48:13 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: nutmeg

"bonding" "support system" "19 new friends"

I'll bet one of these jurors will become very "proactive" in establishing a group to help those who have served as jurors in celebrity cases where they can "share" their ordeals with each other and provide a "shoulder to lean on".

....puke


2,199 posted on 06/13/2005 3:48:18 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: txradioguy

" ... the prosecutor dropped the ball."

How is that. If Snedden wouldn't have called the mother, MJs defense atty certainly would have.


2,200 posted on 06/13/2005 3:48:38 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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