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SUPREME COURT RULING: You can arrest those using marijuana for medical purposes

Posted on 06/06/2005 7:16:18 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs

Per Fox News:

The Supreme Court has ruled Medical Marijuana as illegal.


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To: 4KennewickMan2Invent
Name ONE!

Marinol, which is FDA approved, has the exact same medicinal properties that are cited as the reason for allowing medicinal Marijuana. That is, it reduces nausea and stimulates appetite.

And that means one that goes to the same exact receptors as THC, has the exact same side effects,

Why should it have to have the same side effects? In fact, the whole point of putting it into prescription form is to duplicate the medicinal properties of marijuana without the side effects.

Marinol doesn't get you high, for instance. But no one ever suggested that getting high has medicinal value.

is non-addictive

It's not addictive.

and is best when inhaled.

Why is this important? Actually, one of the benefits of Marinol is that you don't have to smoke anything. Weed smoke is just as bad for your lungs, if not more harmful, than tabacco smoke. I believe the figure is 1 joint equals 5 cigarettes.

Though, you said "drugs" as in plural, are there 5? 20?

Sorry. I know of only one for sure that's FDA approved. There may be some available in generic form.

961 posted on 06/07/2005 11:46:33 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: beansox
That is simply wrong and so are you for trying to discount the ordeal that the law puts millions through just for toking up.

Oh those poor potheads! Their plight brings me to tears!

FYI, I've never had any trouble with the law over pot, but I've had friends who were arrested for possession. Only in one instance did they actually prosecute the guy, and all that happened was a fine and community service. So he had to pick up trash for a couple weekends.

Oh the humanity! Cruel and unusual punishment!

962 posted on 06/07/2005 11:49:54 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

your a bitch.


963 posted on 06/07/2005 12:56:27 PM PDT by beansox
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To: Schwaeky
I have only read from last to here.

Anyone remember Terri? The problem this identifies is one that people/voters should be in charge of their medical care, not big government/judiciary.

964 posted on 06/07/2005 1:10:04 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection (http://hour9.blogspot.com/)
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To: beansox
Spoken like a true pot head. You can't argue, so you call people names.
965 posted on 06/07/2005 1:51:30 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: Schwaeky
Actually, all the court was doing was upholding the federal controlled substances act and ruling that state laws cannot overrride this federal law.

Scalia's concurring opinion used the necessary and proper clause, rather than the interstate commerce clause, to uphold the law. I fully agree with his reasoning.

966 posted on 06/07/2005 1:56:13 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: derheimwill
Regarding Constitutional reasoning, I read Scalia's opinion this morning. I think it was very good. He did not rely solely upon the Interstate Commerece Clause, but rather hung most of his opinion on the Necessary and Proper Clause. I think it was an excellent opinion.

I also read Thomas's desent, but I have to say he fails to refute Scalia's point.

967 posted on 06/07/2005 2:09:09 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: Petronski

Now, the government can arrest you for trying to help yourself, but the State can't intervene to save the life of Terri Schiavo...Our judges are asses....


968 posted on 06/07/2005 2:40:26 PM PDT by NATIVEDAUGHTER
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To: curiosity
Pot head? now whos calling names? (rolling eyes) Real Mature. How old are you? I call em like I see em. You cant handle the fact that you post contradictions and arnt intelligent enough to to see it for yourself. Then once I pointed it out to you, instead of owning up to it, you went off on some mellow dramatic tangent. Just like i said, a bitch.
969 posted on 06/07/2005 2:56:05 PM PDT by beansox
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To: robertpaulsen
Assuming you're advising your susceptible cancer chemo patients to use their marijuana in this manner, I see no problem. But I think we both know you aren't. So my statement stands.

Again, unless you are certified, licensed and legal to give a medical/pharmacology consult, I might ask for your advice when it comes to my patients but taking into consideration the "substance" of your replies, I doubt that. And again, if a patient is telling me that they are either using or intending to use cannabis, I am NOT going to stop them. Unless you have something more of value to add besides Google search results, please do so, otherwise spare me the copy & paste and understand that this is not amateur hour for medical advice.

970 posted on 06/07/2005 3:37:06 PM PDT by Quinotto (On matters of style,swim with the current,on matters of principle stand like a rock-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: bvw
She and a few others (Paulsen, PKM) are the drama queens of marijuana and/or Federal monarchy.

I will always pay attention to Eleni's opinions over Paulsen's. At least hers are original thoughts and not the results of Google searches used as proof. Some people should abstain into thinking that this is amateur corner for medical advice and should leave it to the professionals and to the patients who will make their own decision.

971 posted on 06/07/2005 3:43:16 PM PDT by Quinotto (On matters of style,swim with the current,on matters of principle stand like a rock-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: excludethis

It may be obvious...and if so, it still doesn't make it right.


973 posted on 06/07/2005 4:15:00 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: 4KennewickMan2Invent

Thanks for the lesson in Greek especially since it's my first language. No matter what the language, however, homeopathy is still quackery.


974 posted on 06/07/2005 4:16:58 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: sayitaintso

Read post 897. And then read any number of research studies discussing the dangers of mj use.


975 posted on 06/07/2005 4:19:23 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: seacapn

Government: Jail the dealers.

Society (church schools, parents): Enlighten the delusional users.


976 posted on 06/07/2005 4:21:23 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: thoughtomator
According to their interpretation of the Commerce Clause, they sure can, if they want to.

Their interpretation is simple: The Commerce Clause allows the Congress to do anything unless it violates Justice Douglas' interpretation of the XIV Amendment's penumbras (and its emanations)

977 posted on 06/07/2005 4:36:47 PM PDT by Tarkin (Chief Justice Thomas 2005)
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To: thoughtomator

I meant, of course, unless it does not violate...:-)


978 posted on 06/07/2005 4:48:45 PM PDT by Tarkin (Chief Justice Thomas 2005)
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To: bvw
I am not going to second-guess Eleni's choice in her stand when it comes to this issue, it's simply her belief and I respect that. At the same extent, while she might not agree or understand my liberal views when it comes to cannabis and critically ill patients she does respect them. I also believe (oddly enough) in the FDA, I believe that fundamentally is not a bad concept, it's just a mismanaged government organization which needs a serious overhaul. I do have issues with the ones who think of themselves as being experts just because they read some research on some website and they are, just like the old saying, dangerous (the ones who know little about a subject are more dangerous than the ones who know nothing). Rhetoric and mindless ideology while spitting out results off some search engine is what makes people not understand the issue of cannabis. If I said it once, I will say it again: if they do not want the use of cannabis for recreational use, make it available for the sick in a different form (sublingual-> as it exists already in Canada and UK<- or liquid or as a tablet->and not in the synthetic form like Marinol<-) but, in the name of humanity and care, allow the terminally and seriously ill some relief (might that be mental or physical). We have no right into stopping these people to get the care they seek and they need just because our concept of right or wrong is different than theirs. Christ healed the sick without passing judgment, why should we try be more holier than He was?
979 posted on 06/07/2005 5:41:53 PM PDT by Quinotto (On matters of style,swim with the current,on matters of principle stand like a rock-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: NormB
"Is there such a thing as medical booze?"

Nyquil® contains 10% alcohol (ie., 20 proof) to aid in sleep. DayQuil® has no alcohol.

980 posted on 06/07/2005 5:46:35 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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