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Are we all equal on FR?

Posted on 05/27/2005 8:31:06 AM PDT by JoeV1

I wonder if the rules on this forum are applied equally? Several weeks ago I was denied posting privileges because I jokingly advocated a "plan b" in fighting the so far failed war on illegal immigration. My "plan b" was to have border guards retreat to within 200 yards of the border and while fitted with night vision goggles simply drop any illegals attempting to gain access to America.

Now frankly I am not concerned with the fact I was denied posting privileges for a day(reason given was "advocating violence")but I wonder if the folks who post pictures of exploding nukes over text that calls for turning the middle east, or N Korea into a glowing heap of slag. were also denied the ability to post. I did a cursory check and found the names of the posters associated with the nuke threats posting regularly after the aforementioned posts appeared.

Is it possible that some are more equal then others here? I have been referred to as a "newbie" as if that somehow makes what I say less credible then someone here a longer period of time. I believe opinions are opinions and the length of forum membership does not serve to make ones credibility stronger.

It does seem that there is a "good old boy's" network operating here and the old timers are given more leeway as far as the rules then are the newer arrivals. While I have been a FR member for only 8 months I have been an avid political forum debator for 8 or 9 years on places such as the NYT, WP, LAT and others.

There was another incident in which I was accused of a personal attack although I was merely responding to an attack on myself. I never used profanity and merely responded in kind to another whose main complaint was that I was wrong in criticizing the post of another person because that person was a 5 year member. I was also told I didn't know what I was talking about. This resulted in a few back and forth retorts which I frankly found amusing and in no way took as an insult.

I thoroughly enjoy verbal jousting and never shrink from a confrontation. It appears that others see fit to run to the moderator at the first sign of getting back what it is they dish out. It is at that time that I believe the good old boys network comes into play.

If any of you would like to see the posts that caused this simply ask and I will happily post them.


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To: Frank_Discussion

Rest of the story: Two children sitting in the back seat of a car on a long trip. One child in touching the other child. and the second child says to his mother "he's touching me" and mother tells the first child to quite touching his brother. Which he does, but now he almost touches his brother and the second child says "HE NOT TOUCHING ME"!!


181 posted on 05/27/2005 9:28:06 AM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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To: Lazamataz
Serenity lies in learning to accept that.

Are you sure it's not senility?

182 posted on 05/27/2005 9:28:21 AM PDT by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies!)
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To: JoeV1
My "plan b" was to have border guards retreat to within 200 yards of the border and while fitted with night vision goggles simply drop any illegals attempting to gain access to America.

I HAVEN'T read all the replies, so this MAY be a repeat.

Your 'plan B' came too close to what too many kneejerkers were worried about, when the MMP stood watch.

And if some whack job goes out and DOES what 'plan B' says, then you can be DAMNED SURE, it WILL come back on FreeRepublic as the source of that action.

FreeRepublic is like MOST of the 'world out there'. So, yeah, the oldtimers ARE cut a little slack...because they have established and earned their reputations. They are fairly well-known here and when they make 'statements', MOST people understand where they're coming from. 'Newbies' DON'T have that 'luxury'. They are STILL under scrutiny, to better figure out where they're coming from, AND to establish their reps as a FReeper.

183 posted on 05/27/2005 9:28:23 AM PDT by mommadooo3
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To: eastforker; Rebelbase

CGEB- Turns out she was a he and lied about other things as well.


184 posted on 05/27/2005 9:28:54 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: JoeV1
The Rules on FR may not be failrly enforced

You're on your period, aren't you?

185 posted on 05/27/2005 9:29:05 AM PDT by Petronski (A champion of dance, my moves will put you in a trance, and I never leave the disco alone.)
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To: SlowBoat407

LOL


186 posted on 05/27/2005 9:30:18 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: JoeV1
Sometimes it isn't fair, but the mods can't be on every thread all the time, so they don't catch them all. I've seen things posted that I thought would cause a suspension but it never happened. FReepers can be rough at times, as evidenced on this thread, but they make us laugh more often than not. You just have to cowboy up and shake it off. If you post something and it gets pulled or you get suspended, just learn from it and move on. The illegal immigration threads have got MANY long time FReepers banned, and because of the anger over illegal immigration, those are the threads watched more closely than any other ones. THAT is probably why they saw your post.
187 posted on 05/27/2005 9:30:18 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (We*ve been sold out by spineless, gutless TRAITORS again!!!! They made a deal with the devil...)
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To: Admin Moderator

The fact that new sign ups every few months come out with the same claim as this gentlemen should make it self evident.


188 posted on 05/27/2005 9:30:58 AM PDT by eatdust
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To: mommadooo3
And yet some newbies can post vanities without impunity and older freepers are called on the carpet for scrutinizing them.
189 posted on 05/27/2005 9:31:45 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: Lazamataz; Admin Moderator
Admin Mod: "Please identify any of these posters with access to nuclear weapons, and we'll immediately suspend them."

Laz: "Well, I didn't want to admit it yet, but yesterday's underground test means that Lazamataz joins the Nuclear Club of Countries."

LMAO at botha youz. Now I can go into the weekend happy.

190 posted on 05/27/2005 9:32:25 AM PDT by Miss Behave (Do androids dream of electric sheep?)
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To: JoeV1

I'd have to see the specific language you posted. Likely, you actually broke one of the rules, or, engaged in over the top ad hominem attacks against the open borders crowd. For the record, I am in favor of much tightened immigration limits, and, a massive effort to deny entry to illegals and to expell as many already here as current resources will allow. That said, I also want to expell all white surpremicists, far right anti government fanatics and other problematic groups from all efforts to deal with the illegal immigration problem. They cause more harm than good.


191 posted on 05/27/2005 9:32:28 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: listenhillary

"We are all created equal, after that it's up to you."

Great comment ... gotta use that with my kids!


192 posted on 05/27/2005 9:32:47 AM PDT by FRactional
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To: JoeV1

The removal of posts, zotting of trolls, are obviously all judgement calls. It involves the analyzing of content, context, personal opinions, the current emotional state of the moderator, and whether or not someone hit the "report abuse" button on you. The moderators are all trained psychologists and apparently, in their professional opinion, your post was over the line and/or they believe you may represent an actual threat. In addition, nobody likes a whiner. Except for liberals and you won't find many of them on this site willing to comfort and console you for your perceived discrimination.


193 posted on 05/27/2005 9:33:17 AM PDT by faq
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To: Political Junkie Too
The only reason you're here is because of the popularity of this site, made that way by the "old-timers" whose postings drove the talk-radio agenda for years before you showed up.

[round of applause]

194 posted on 05/27/2005 9:34:09 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Political Junkie Too; JoeV1
The only reason you're here is because of the popularity of this site, made that way by the "old-timers" whose postings drove the talk-radio agenda for years before you showed up.

I, personally, fell onto this site with no prior knowledge of FR. Also, are you suggesting anyone new has not contributed to make FR a popular site that it is today? Our donations mean nothing?

Get over yourself if you are an oldie but goodie. That's fair and balanced right? ;)

195 posted on 05/27/2005 9:34:45 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: All

And this thread is HYSTERICAL. LOL.


196 posted on 05/27/2005 9:34:52 AM PDT by Miss Behave (Do androids dream of electric sheep?)
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To: RockinRight

Great - glad to hear it. I hate that word and the fact it is forced on us by the Hollywood elite.

Hang in there - this place is awesome. You never know what you will run across. Sometimes it is a remembering thread full of funny comments, sometimes it is a ranting place as we are all so disappointed in our government. Other times it is a place for info, for activism, for prayers, for humor or just plain gossip.

You will get addicted as we are. Just remember, this site is very important for the conservatives and we want it a place to be proud of, with credibility and usefulness - not merely to flame, to incite, to ridicule.


197 posted on 05/27/2005 9:35:06 AM PDT by ClancyJ (Florida Motto: Send me your weak, frail, elderly - and we will give them 'rest'".)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

Yeah but that pic of her on his profile page got many a FReeper excited and lets not forget our gal from the Bob Hope tours.


198 posted on 05/27/2005 9:35:15 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: handy old one

These same little boys found some empy cardboard match boxes, filled them with rabbit pellets from their grandparents' hutch, then labeled them 'Smart Pills' and sold them for a nickel.
A big boy returned with his little brother, angry, and said, "You sold my brother a box of rabbit _______."
As they left in a hurry for a better location, one yelled over his shoulder,
"Well there you go, now he's getting smart!"


199 posted on 05/27/2005 9:35:56 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: JoeV1
I wonder if the folks who post pictures of exploding nukes over text ... were also denied the ability to post.
... the old timers are given more leeway as far as the rules then are the newer arrivals.

(sigh) Here we go again. Must we revisit this same old worn-out topic again?

You want some "pictures of exploding nukes over text?" I got your exploding nukes over text...

























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200 posted on 05/27/2005 9:36:18 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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