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Isn't the district attorney being a little harsh here? Do you feel equally bad for the father and daughter as well as the victim?
1 posted on 05/26/2005 9:09:10 AM PDT by m1-lightning
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"http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1410928/posts"

Here are some other thoughts. This article (the one I'm posted on now :) ) has a lot more info though.


2 posted on 05/26/2005 9:12:57 AM PDT by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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idiocy... sometimes and accident is just an accident.

cite him for allowing her to drive, but geez...they didnt mean to kill anyone


3 posted on 05/26/2005 9:13:05 AM PDT by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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Isn't the district attorney being a little harsh here?

No

But I would like to see additional charges against the DA herself in the interests of justice ...

Do you feel equally bad for the father and daughter as well as the victim?

No

The victim was not responsible for the crime that led to her death.

4 posted on 05/26/2005 9:13:50 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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Punishing for accidents is stupid. If it was intentional, then that's different.
5 posted on 05/26/2005 9:13:56 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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I feel badly for them, however, it was irresponsible to allow the daughter to drive without even a learner's permit (not that a learner's permit would've prevented the accident necessarily). Not only was it irresponsible, but it is illegal. His reckless judgment contributed to the young mother's death and while I don't think he should serve twelve years in prison, I do think that he should be punished. A plea is likely and will hopefully mete out the "right" amount of justice.


6 posted on 05/26/2005 9:14:30 AM PDT by IMissPresidentReagan ("My Friends we did it....we made a difference. ...All in all not bad, not bad at all." Pres. Reagan)
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Also note
http://www.nbc5i.com/news/4534410/detail.html


7 posted on 05/26/2005 9:14:51 AM PDT by Judge Roy
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Not equally bad, but I get the point.

IMHO, criminally; the teen should forego a driver's license and be on probation until age of majority. The father should face the same charge as he would for just allowing his daughter to drive without a permit, and suffer the appropriate punishment. The death was an accident that not even a permit would have helped avoid.

Civil damages should provide for the orphaned child through college.


8 posted on 05/26/2005 9:15:31 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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They were in a parking lot. Traffic laws do not apply. The father could be charged with reckless endangerment or manslaughter.


9 posted on 05/26/2005 9:16:44 AM PDT by acad1228
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No an accident is when a person has no control of a problem.

A person who drives (aims) a car across a persons lawn and kills a person commits murder.


10 posted on 05/26/2005 9:17:24 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." AYN RAND)
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Let me make this clear ...

Brake on the left, gas on the right!!!

11 posted on 05/26/2005 9:19:04 AM PDT by shekkian
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What, the father didn't have time to reach over and turn the ignition off? He couldn't take the car out of gear? He couldn't tug on the wheel and miss the woman?

What was he doing while the car crashed into a fence, crossed an intersection, and soared up the lawn?

All that said, I agree with the people who call it an accident.


15 posted on 05/26/2005 9:25:25 AM PDT by dsc (The Crusades were the first war on terrorism.)
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""I think the judge will evaluate the situation and see it's nothing more than an accident."

I respectfully disagree. This is no more an 'Accident' than handing a loaded, cocked weapon to an initiated, unaware juvenile - And we are all too familiar with the potentially lethal outcome of that idiocy.

The father was skirting a logical law, one made to ensure that anyone getting behind the wheel of a potentially lethal machine, posses the requisite knowledge about it operation and control. IMO he is guilty of manslaughter and the juvenile is innocent in her reliance on her father that this was a safe way to learn to drive.

17 posted on 05/26/2005 9:27:45 AM PDT by drt1
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Isn't the district attorney being a little harsh here? Do you feel equally bad for the father and daughter as well as the victim?

I feel sorry for the kid, but they should throw the book at the dad. He willingly created a potentially lethal situation, and it killed someone.

First, there's a REASON kids are required to get learners permits. Before the permit can be issued, kids are required to pass a test demonstrating that they ALREADY understand the basic rules of the road...including the fact that the BRAKE will STOP an out of control car. By allowing his daughter to drive without first ensuring that she new the rudiments of what she was doing, he put his life in danger, her life in danger, and the lives of everyone around him in danger. And that choice killed someone.

On top of that, just about every state requires adults to be in a position to intervene while driving. If he was unable to change the direction or speed of the car, he wasn't properly doing his job and was in violation of the law.

An innocent woman is dead, and a child will grow up motherless, all because this frigging moron wanted to be the "Cool Dad" and let his completely unqualified CHILD drive a car. It's no different than if he'd handed a gun to an untrained 10 year old.

Lock him up.
26 posted on 05/26/2005 9:39:21 AM PDT by Arthalion
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Remember in the old days when we actually had Driver's Ed and Driver's Training taught in High School? No more. Just another casualty in our over-lawyered country. Thank you very much greedy lawyers!! Just like our kids are fat and lazy because they aren't allowed to break a sweat during P.E. anymore because some shmuck sued over some accidental injury. I feel sorry for all the people involved in this. I think the father was trying to save the money driving school would have cost and teach his daughter himself. I would much rather the schools teach our kids how to drive than all the time they spend on "safe sex education". They won't stop teaching that 'till someone sues the district for some condom injury or something. :-0


35 posted on 05/26/2005 9:58:58 AM PDT by kittykat718 (Me-ow)
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yes, next time I think I'm having a bad day. I should just remember this article.


45 posted on 05/26/2005 10:12:33 AM PDT by A message
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So didn't Newsweak create a situation where many were killed? Why aren't they being charged??


58 posted on 05/26/2005 10:22:57 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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Ok...so to get a learner's permit, isn't a written test only required. After the permit is obtained, then you get behind the wheel. SO exactly HOW would the permit have prevented this young gal from letting the vehicle go out of control??

A horrible accident to be sure, but I think the DA is going a little overboard.


69 posted on 05/26/2005 10:47:16 AM PDT by griffin
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Isn't the district attorney being a little harsh here?

No.

Do you feel equally bad for the father and daughter as well as the victim?

No.

the car crashed through a fence, sped across an intersection and soared up the lawn,

And dad never thought to pull the EMERGENCY BRAKE?

119 posted on 05/26/2005 12:47:48 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I am not a romantic, I don't hero worship and no, as a matter of fact, I don't have a heart.)
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Isn't the district attorney being a little harsh here? Do you feel equally bad for the father and daughter as well as the victim?

Yes; and no.

Of course you have to feel worse for the young woman who was killed after heroically saving her baby, than for the girl and her dad.

We had a similar accident in NJ just recently --a girl who DID have her learner's permit was practicing parallel parking in a vacant lot with her mother. The girl accidently accelerated backward, crushing her mom, who was behind the car placing a cone to help guide the daughter.

Hmmmm, Lynne Abraham. She's a big leftie DA in PA. Didn't she have something to do with thwarting FReeper Don Adams when he tried to get compensation, after getting beaten up by union thugs while protesting some Clinton event?

128 posted on 05/26/2005 1:02:27 PM PDT by shhrubbery! (The 'right to choose' = The right to choose death --for somebody else.)
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Stinkin' Lincoln, I know exactly where this happened...


132 posted on 05/26/2005 1:08:10 PM PDT by NativeSon
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