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Christian agenda worries other faiths [WARNING - DEVOID OF FACTS]
Lawrence Journal-World ^ | 5/12/2005 | Jim Baker

Posted on 05/12/2005 1:27:25 PM PDT by johnnyb_61820

It is conservative Christians on the State Board of Education who are sitting today in judgment of evolution instruction in Kansas schools. advertisement

But their religion, of course, isn't the only one practiced in Kansas.

"I think that this is trying to sneak in a certain brand of religion in disguise. I do not think that this is the American thing to do, because we do not impose one religion on everybody," said Judith Roitman, guiding teacher at the Kansas Zen Center, 1423 N.Y., and a professor of mathematics at Kansas University. "This is not just a Christian agenda, but a particular brand of Christianity, and they are trying to impose it on everyone else.

"I practice two faiths -- Buddhism and Judaism -- and in neither one of them does the mainstream feel that it is appropriate for someone to come in and say, ‘My religious text tells me that your science is wrong.'"

Saibal Bhattacharya, who is a Hindu, said he had deep misgivings about the push to give "intelligent design" -- the idea that a creative (and possibly supernatural) consciousness was behind the birth of the universe -- equal billing with evolution in science classrooms.

(Excerpt) Read more at ljworld.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: churchandstate; crevolist; education; evolution; id; intelligentdesign; theology; worrieddems
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There is a whole slew of quotes in here. The interesting thing is that none of them have ANYTHING whatsoever to do with what is going on in Kansas. They ARE NOT trying to get Intelligent Design into classrooms, just criticisms of Darwin. With that, you have pretty much the whole article being completely offtopic.

I wish there was some way of getting the media to at least have some semblance of accuracy. All of the quotes would be mildly interesting, if they had something remotely to do with what is occurring in Kansas. Sadly, most people reading it won't know that it's completely untrue.

1 posted on 05/12/2005 1:27:26 PM PDT by johnnyb_61820
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Buddhism and Judaism? JUDDHAISM!!! Its sweeping the nation


2 posted on 05/12/2005 1:33:00 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: johnnyb_61820
I practice two faiths -- Buddhism and Judaism

I guess he forgot about the 'no other gods before me' part.

3 posted on 05/12/2005 1:34:18 PM PDT by asformeandformyhouse (Former Embryo - Former Fetus - Recovering Sinner)
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To: johnnyb_61820

I know most people who want criticism of Darwin or creationism taught would agree that evolution can also be taught right along beside it. It seems to me though that those who want evolution taught, only want evolution taught with no other theories.

Why not teach both and leave it at that?


4 posted on 05/12/2005 1:34:58 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: asformeandformyhouse
I guess he forgot about the 'no other gods before me' part.

Maybe it went down the same hole as the admonition against worshipping graven images.
5 posted on 05/12/2005 1:39:38 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: johnnyb_61820

Confused about religion and confused about science -- now there's someone I really take seriously.


6 posted on 05/12/2005 1:48:59 PM PDT by Juan Medén
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I guess he forgot about the 'no other gods before me' part.

Maybe it went down the same hole as the admonition against worshipping graven images.

  1. The G_d Almighty declared that there are to be no other gods before Him.
  2. Buddha rebelled against the "pagan" polytheism and said people should not be worshiping idols either, but now his "followers" all have graven images of him.

7 posted on 05/12/2005 1:50:40 PM PDT by yevgenie (8 bits in a byte; 2 bits to a quarter ($.25) ==> so, 8 bits is a dollar ???)
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To: johnnyb_61820
"...I do not think that this is the American thing to do, because we do not impose one religion on everybody," said Judith Roitman

Sure you do. It's called atheism and it's shoved down our throats all day long by judicial order.

8 posted on 05/12/2005 1:54:15 PM PDT by Argus (Omnia taglinea in tres partes divisa est.)
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Kansas Zen Center

HUH?
9 posted on 05/12/2005 1:54:51 PM PDT by day10 (Rules cannot substitute for character.)
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Some very devoted people of various traditional beliefs are convinced that evolution is part of creation. And many believe that evolution is not scientifically supported enough by adequate evidence.

But how is opposing the teaching of evolution in schools an insertion of religion in schools? Such opposition is not a religious incursion of religion is not mixed with it.


10 posted on 05/12/2005 1:57:12 PM PDT by familyop
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To: johnnyb_61820

More Christians than Jews are into Buddhism, BTW.


11 posted on 05/12/2005 1:59:37 PM PDT by familyop
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Why not teach both and leave it at that?

Because it threatens their religion. If the theory of evolution could be proved scientifically - or even meet the judicial standard of "beyond a reasonable doubt - then evolution proponents wouldn't be threatened by alternative views.

Those of us who support ID curriculum aren't suggesting that evolution be banned as an alternative theory, but having equal time to both theories is unacceptable to evolutionists. Their view is the only view that counts because it's labeled "science," and heaven forbid (pun intended) anybody challenge their dogma.

12 posted on 05/12/2005 2:00:30 PM PDT by highimpact (Hard work. I just say it to scare away the Liberals.)
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To: johnnyb_61820

Lawrence is known to be a pretty liberal town, and thus the newspaper panders to its audience (instead of presenting fair news).


13 posted on 05/12/2005 2:01:55 PM PDT by mowkeka
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It's an Acts 19:23-29 situation.


14 posted on 05/12/2005 2:02:47 PM PDT by johnnyb_61820
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Christian agenda worries 'other'.....ACLU-FAITHS?


15 posted on 05/12/2005 2:10:33 PM PDT by maestro
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But how is opposing the teaching of evolution in schools an insertion of religion in schools?

Because it denounces THEIR faith-based teachings.

16 posted on 05/12/2005 2:39:24 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas .....wimmen!)
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I had written:
"But how is opposing the teaching of evolution in schools an insertion of religion in schools?"

And you replied:
"Because it denounces THEIR faith-based teachings."

Opposing the teaching of evolution is denouncing someone else's faith-based teachings? If that's the case, then the teaching of evolution is the teaching of a religion.
17 posted on 05/12/2005 3:02:21 PM PDT by familyop
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 Early warning shots-- the War against Religion...

18 posted on 05/12/2005 3:29:39 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: familyop
Opposing the teaching of evolution is denouncing someone else's faith-based teachings? If that's the case, then the teaching of evolution is the teaching of a religion.

You nailed it. Belief in evolution is just as much faith-based as belief in Christianity, Judaism, etc. If evolution was a hard science like chemistry, we wouldn't be having this debate. Based on the "science" of evolution, nobody can prove that we "evolved" from a prehistoric pool of muck.

19 posted on 05/12/2005 4:08:15 PM PDT by highimpact (Hard work. I just say it to scare away the Liberals.)
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To: familyop
then the teaching of evolution is the teaching of a religion.

You're right. :)

20 posted on 05/12/2005 5:10:04 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas .....wimmen!)
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