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New York Student Sues High School for Prohibiting Pro-Life Shirt
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Posted on 05/11/2005 2:11:51 PM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly

(CNSNews.com) - A junior at Fillmore Central High School near Buffalo, N.Y., has filed a federal lawsuit against his school district for ordering him to remove his pro-life T-shirt in violation of his free-speech rights. The Thomas More Law Center, a Michigan-based public interest law firm, and the American Catholic Lawyers Association are representing the student, Kevin Dibble, who was told by the school principal that the message on his T-shirt was offensive and therefore prohibited. The T-shirt read, "Abortion is Homicide. You will not silence my message. You will not mock my God. You will stop killing my generation. Rock for Life." Dibble said he had worn the same shirt to school several times before he was stopped - and suspended for refusing to remove it. "This is another example of a school taking sides in the abortion issue and attempting to silence a student's message because it disagrees with it," said Richard Thompson, chief counsel of the Thomas More Law Center.


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To: Pyro7480
Libertarian I guess?

No. Christian, federalist, Marine.

41 posted on 05/11/2005 3:01:42 PM PDT by Semper
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly

The T shirt is probably the one on Rock for Life's website. A prolife ministry for teens and young adults. You can order stuff from them.


42 posted on 05/11/2005 3:02:17 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Semper

I was being sarcastic in my first post, by the way. On a more series note, I hope the kid wins his lawsuit. But if schools allow pro-life messages, then, in all fairness, pro-abortion messages must also be allowed. No double standards.


43 posted on 05/11/2005 3:02:35 PM PDT by Luna (Lobbing the Holy Hand Grenade at Liberalism)
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To: Semper

Don't know what that particular school allows, but the shirts are out there. I'm sure that pro-deathers get to wear their shirts in school without even so much as a peep from their gutless school administrators.


44 posted on 05/11/2005 3:08:57 PM PDT by KStorm (Up/Down vote for nominees NOW.)
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To: lastchance
Avoid ALL clothing, Yes naked school would keep dress code violations to a minimum. But the backpacks will strafe those delicate shoulders.

I think being naked at school would be COOL. But the school official is worried about distractions.

It might be HARD to concentrate, on some school subjects, when all your blood flows from one head to another.

Lets see, the classes that people would excel in.
Math, specifically MULTIPLICATION.
Science, APPLIED BIOLOGY.
SOCIAL Studies.
Physical Education, improved hand eye coordination (ok forget the eye)

45 posted on 05/11/2005 3:12:55 PM PDT by mountn man
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To: Luna
I hope the kid wins his lawsuit.

I respectfully disagree. Public schools are for learning - for everyone of every faith or belief. Anything which detracts from that (like disregarding the rules) is not in the best interests of anyone. The pushing of any particular religious belief is disruptive and therefore is not appropriate.

46 posted on 05/11/2005 3:14:12 PM PDT by Semper
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To: Semper

Only the self-righteous "pro-lifers" have a lock on what should be done in other people's families.

You mean "to other people" not "in other people's families".


47 posted on 05/11/2005 3:18:37 PM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly

As a certain lady said, " Gee those I love partial birth abortion t-shirts just aren't selling?"


48 posted on 05/11/2005 3:20:48 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: Semper

Then it's time to stop pushing secular humanism and it's religion, EVOLUTION, on us.

Please spare me the "It's fact..." Prove it. Science has yet to prove evolution. As a matter of fact, you can't prove a theory.... which is all it is and a pretty lousy one at that...


49 posted on 05/11/2005 3:22:47 PM PDT by jdluntjr
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To: GeneralStorm
I'm sure that pro-deathers get to wear their shirts in school without even so much as a peep from their gutless school administrators.

First of all, no one is "pro-death" - that is contrary to mature reason. Because people get killed in war does not make those who support any particular war "pro-death". Thousands get killed in auto accidents but those supporting freedom to drive are not "pro-death". Why would you label my mother (who would die in child birth) "pro-death" if she had to resort to an abortion?

Second of all, no school could get away with banning some religious or social commentary and not others.

50 posted on 05/11/2005 3:23:47 PM PDT by Semper
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To: jdluntjr
Then it's time to stop pushing secular humanism and it's religion, EVOLUTION, on us.

Evolution is not religion, it is science. It is accumulated evidence. How that evidence is interpreted and how our human condition is interpreted depends upon our education, maturity and experience. If you are basing your view of physical reality on denied evidence, you are engaging in superstition and you are at a substantial disadvantage.

To move beyond the superstition, read some of my other posts.

51 posted on 05/11/2005 3:33:07 PM PDT by Semper
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To: Semper
"Can there be any more arrogant a position than if you do not agree with me, you must be pro-death?"

Well duh! What the H#ll do you think abortion is???? D-E-A-T-H!

52 posted on 05/11/2005 3:36:37 PM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: freedomfiter2
You mean "to other people" not "in other people's families".

No. People come out of families, the basic unit of human society. After the family comes the church and government.

There are plenty of people with me (including the founding fathers) that do not want the government or a religious organization telling us what we MUST do.

53 posted on 05/11/2005 3:38:07 PM PDT by Semper
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To: Semper
"Before filing the lawsuit, the Thomas More Law Center sent a letter to school officials explaining Kevin Dibble’s First Amendment right to peacefully express his pro-life views on his clothing at school. The Law Center also pointed to the double standard of school officials not allowing Kevin’s message but allowing other students to wear controversial shirts that depict grotesque pictures and sexually charged messages. In response to the letter, school officials again denied Kevin his right to wear his shirt to school."

Got the picture? Kevin's message is being singled out because the principal doesn't agree with the message. Unconstitutional.

54 posted on 05/11/2005 3:42:25 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly

I wonder if the ACLU is going to swoop in and defend this boy's freedom of speech like they have for the "I Love My Vagina" shirts that the high school girl in Minneapolis (or "Moscow on the Mississippi") has been defending..


55 posted on 05/11/2005 3:46:02 PM PDT by peacethroughstrength
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To: kenth; CatoRenasci; Marie; PureSolace; Congressman Billybob; P.O.E.; cupcakes; Amelia; Dianna; ...

56 posted on 05/11/2005 3:50:38 PM PDT by Born Conservative ("Mr. Chamberlain loves the working man, he loves to see him work" - Winston Churchill)
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To: jackibutterfly
Well duh! What the H#ll do you think abortion is???? D-E-A-T-H!

How can you die before you are born? Human life is defined as the experience between birth and death. Check the definition of birth: Origin; A beginning or commencement. The emergence and separation of offspring from the body of the mother. b. The act or process of bearing young

Life is more than the flesh, it is consciousness, self awareness. There is no self awareness before birth. There is certainly POTENTIAL life before the process of birth. There is the potential of adulthood with every child but every child does not reach adulthood. We do not call children adults because they MAY reach adulthood and the unborn are not babys just because they MAY be born.

57 posted on 05/11/2005 3:52:30 PM PDT by Semper
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To: Always Right

The ACLU stands up for freedom of speech, for everyone. Here's an identical situation from April 29:
http://www.aclu.org/StudentsRights/StudentsRights.cfm?ID=18159&c=159


58 posted on 05/11/2005 3:57:54 PM PDT by nosurrender
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To: jwalsh07
Kevin's message is being singled out because the principal doesn't agree with the message. Unconstitutional.

If that is the case it is indeed unconstitutional. The most appropriate action would then be to call for the end of the other displays. Two wrongs do not make a right.

59 posted on 05/11/2005 4:02:04 PM PDT by Semper
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly
I regret that I have but one shirt to give for my Country!

-Abbie Hoffmann, after being ordered to remove his US Flag-motif T-shirt during an appearance before the House Un-American Activities Committee, circa 1969

60 posted on 05/11/2005 4:11:06 PM PDT by O Neill (Aye, Katie Scarlett, the ONLY thing that lasts is the land...)
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