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Myths and lies of illegal immigration
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Posted on 05/08/2005 3:38:21 AM PDT by Happy2BMe

Myths and lies of illegal immigration

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By Kathy McKee; January 4, 2004; published in The Sonoran News

Because the pro-illegal alien lobby has a bottomless pit of money and can hire PR people to spin (and fabricate) anything any way, there are an undue number of myths and lies that the public (and many politicians) has bought into. The FACTS are:

1. It is NOT racist to call these people "illegal aliens" In fact, "illegal aliens" is the only term used in federal laws and regulations to describe criminals (and they ARE criminals) who come into our country illegally. They are not illegal immigrants, not undocumented immigrants, not migrant workers, and not day laborers - they're ILLEGAL ALIENS.

2. Mexico is NOT a poor country. It has the fifth richest economy in the world, and by sending its teeming masses to our country, that status keeps on rising. Mexico has more resources per square mile than the U.S. and plenty of money to take care of its own people. Why should the taxpayers of this country subsidize Mexico's corruption?

3. Illegal aliens are NOT necessarily coming here to work. Lou Dobbs recently reported that 33 percent of our prison population is now comprised of non-citizens. Plus, 36 to 42 percent of illegal aliens are on welfare. So, for a good proportion of these people, the American dream is crime and welfare, not coming here to work.

4. Illegal aliens are NOT doing work Americans won't do. What jobs won't Americans do? In most states, Americans still clean their own houses, do their own landscaping, clean hotel rooms, work in restaurants and fast food places, paint houses, DO CONSTRUCTION WORK, work in airports, etc. - just like we have the past 200 years before "our" government allowed these people to invade our country. There are 18 million Americans who cannot find a job, so illegal aliens who are coming here to work do so at peril to American workers.

5. Illegal aliens absolutely do not contribute more than they cost. Certainly the millions in prison and on welfare aren't contributing a dime to our economy, and the ones who are working often are paid in cash with no deductions for taxes at all. The ones who use fraudulent social security numbers and qualify to pay taxes and social security have so many deductions for dependents that they pay little if any taxes. We have seen them pay less than $100 in taxes and get back $4,000 refunds (thanks to earned income tax credits and multiple dependents). The Center for Immigration Studies estimates that the average Mexican illegal alien costs U.S. taxpayers a whopping $55,000 each. Some bargain, eh?

6. The economy does NOT depend on illegal aliens. Sure, greedy CEOs (making $50 to $150 MILLION a year) and business owners depend on illegal aliens, but due to #3, #4 and #5 above, the only thing illegal aliens are contributing to is the collapse of our economy and making the rich richer.

7. Without illegal aliens, the price of agricultural products and other goods and services will NOT soar. The definitive study on this subject is the University of Iowa's "How Much Is That Tomato?" The study concludes that 'since labor is such a small component of the end-price of agricultural products (which includes price to the growers, transportation costs, processing /storage costs, grocers' profit, etc.), using minimum wage workers instead of illegal aliens would increase prices of agricultural products by approximately 3 percent in the summer and 4 percent in the winter ... hardly the making of $10 heads of lettuce, $25 hamburgers, $1,000 per night Days Inn hotel rooms like the pro-illegal alien lobby claims.

8. Consumers are NOT benefiting from lower labor costs. Again, it's CEOs and business owners who benefit from taxpayer subsidies for their illegal alien workers. The Big Three automakers say they moved so many jobs to Mexico because their labor costs are 80 percent less than in America. Anybody notice the price of new cars spiraling downward under NAFTA?

So, before you believe the prevalent pack of lies perpetuated by the illegal alien lobby, which makes billions off this government-sanctioned criminal activity, ask yourself who's saying this garbage and look at what they have to gain. Citizens Against Illegal Immigration, just like Protect Arizona NOW, is an all-volunteer, totally grass-roots organization of citizens who are making nothing and have nothing personal to gain from their efforts to fight this corruption. Whose side are you on, and what are YOU doing to save your state and country from this evil?

McKee is the director of Protect Arizona NOW. A former Quaker Sunday School teacher and Volunteer of the Year in a large metropolitan area, she has a 35-year record of charity work and philanthropy largely benefiting minorities.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; borders; cary; crime; frobl; illegalalien; illegals; illegalscam; immigrantlist; immigration; mexico; mexicoisrichnation; sonorannews
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To: janetgreen
Re: the pictures of the tattooed gang members - I wonder how many of the open borders supporters would like these guys living next door...

Especially considering what some of those tatoos mean. They must be earned. And not in the same way one earns an Eagle Scout badge.

21 posted on 05/08/2005 11:27:41 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (This tagline will be destoyed to make way for a new Hyperspace bypass.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Each tear means he killed someone. For him, that means two.


22 posted on 05/08/2005 11:54:25 AM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Those scumbags are a big reason why many people won't go shopping in L.A. anymore. They're a scary bunch.

The mayoral candidate (Villagairose) who is trying to unseat the present mayor of L.A. (Hahn) actually fought against a gang injunction in L.A., and he supported the practice of "no ask, no tell" regarding immigration status by the police. Can you believe this guy is supposedly ahead of Hahn in the polls?

Anyone saying that this is not an invasion is a liar, or is deaf and dumb. We're being outnumbered, we're being colonized.

23 posted on 05/08/2005 12:00:18 PM PDT by janetgreen (CLOSE THE BORDERS)
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To: janetgreen
We're being outnumbered, we're being colonized.

At what point, do you think, there will arise in this country an underground society that will start eliminating large numbers of these types of "colonists"? A white ninjitsu of sorts. A backlash is coming. It's only a matter of 'when'.

24 posted on 05/08/2005 12:06:32 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (This tagline will be destoyed to make way for a new Hyperspace bypass.)
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To: Happy2BMe

ping mark


25 posted on 05/08/2005 12:08:08 PM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: Happy2BMe

Outstanding


26 posted on 05/08/2005 12:09:35 PM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: Happy2BMe
In addition to number 3. illegals carry a host of diseases that are caught in the screening process for LEGALS.

Tuberculosis and others previously almost eradicated in the US are now significantly on the rise in areas with a high illegal population.

Our government is literally killing us by not fulfilling their enumerated duty to secure the border!

27 posted on 05/08/2005 12:14:08 PM PDT by MamaTexan (I am not a legal entity, nor am I a *person* as defined and/or created by 'law'!!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
underground society

According to a statement made to me by a police officer friend, I think that type of retaliation may have already started. There's lots of "gang killings" going on. We just don't really know "who killed who".

I think it will escalate as people get more and more fed up with being forced by our own government to support and put up with these scumbags.

28 posted on 05/08/2005 12:25:10 PM PDT by janetgreen (CLOSE THE BORDERS)
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To: MamaTexan; TomasUSMC; Dad yer funny; tertiary01; Dante3; G.Mason; Casaubon
A FReeper's Guide To Immigration Reform

Gingrich urges action against illegals

29 posted on 05/08/2005 1:25:36 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: dagnabbit

Myths and Legends About Illegal Immigration


30 posted on 05/08/2005 1:27:06 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: raybbr
"...from the illegal-alien lovers convention...

I take it you are referring to the FOQNA loon hyena pack...

31 posted on 05/08/2005 1:30:49 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


32 posted on 05/08/2005 2:06:16 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Happy2BMe

Ping bump!


33 posted on 05/08/2005 2:27:00 PM PDT by G.Mason ( Because Free Republic obviously needed another opinionated big mouth ... Proud NRA member)
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To: Czar
...FOQNA...

Okay. I'll bite. ????????

34 posted on 05/08/2005 2:54:08 PM PDT by raybbr
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To: Happy2BMe

"7. Without illegal aliens, the price of agricultural products and other goods and services will NOT soar. "

So true, especially when one considers that a majority of our winter fruit comes from South America and not the US. We import massive amounts of fruits and vegetables from South America during the months we are buried under snow.

If illegal labor provided such cheap produce then why do we pay the same for fruits and vegetables during the years regardles of where they come from? Proof enough.


35 posted on 05/08/2005 2:57:22 PM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: Happy2BMe

Good article. Thank you for the post.


36 posted on 05/08/2005 3:09:06 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Terri Schindler was NOT in coma, JUSTICE was.....)
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To: FBD
I had no idea the fence was that much, does your 10 billion dollar figure include every cost to the country; medical, SS, welfare, crime you name it.Ten billion is a lot but it seems to me I have seen higher figures, but can't substantiate right now. There are a million hidden costs to putting up with illegal aliens from increased law enforcement to job displacement. It's a tough figure to estimate.
37 posted on 05/08/2005 4:57:39 PM PDT by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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To: rodguy911
>"I had no idea the fence was that much"<

-Yes, that is an estimate based on what Israel spent on it's fence. Israel's fence costs between 2 to 4 million per mile, but it's a pretty elaborate system.
Our border has some pretty tough terrain, however, and access would require some utility/ maintenance road building.
8 billion is a realistic number.

I believe a border fence/wall with Mexico is going to happen, eventually. Of course there will be proper exit entry stations at all the roadways.

>"does your 10 billion dollar figure include every cost to the country; medical, SS, welfare, crime you name it.Ten billion is a lot but it seems to me I have seen higher figures, but can't substantiate right now."<

I've seen estimates that are considered accurate, that illegals cost as much as 26 billion, yet contribute 16 about billion in taxes. (That includes FICA)

That is where the 10 billion dollar figure comes from; the deficit between what they contribute, and what they use in govt services, including the costs you mentioned.
Those numbers are from FAIR.

But as you said, that is hard to estimate, and some of the costs are intangible, like job displacement, victims of illegal alien crime, etc.
38 posted on 05/08/2005 6:05:54 PM PDT by FBD ( "A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." ~Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: rodguy911

Here's the article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33783-2004Aug25.html

Illegal Immigrants' Cost to Government Studied

By Mary Fitzgerald
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, August 26, 2004; Page A21

"A report that found that illegal immigrants in the United States cost the federal government more than $10 billion a year -- a sum it estimated would almost triple if they were given amnesty -- has drawn criticism from immigration advocacy groups.

For its report, the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington-based group that advocates tougher immigration policies, used Census Bureau figures to compare the revenue that illegal immigrants contribute through taxes with the cost of government services they use."

Illegal immigrants create a fiscal deficit because they have low incomes, Steven A. Camarota said. (Robert A. Reede - Robert A. Reeder -- The Washington Post)


"Households headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per illegal household," said Steven A. Camarota, author of the study.


39 posted on 05/08/2005 6:35:36 PM PDT by FBD ( "A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." ~Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: FBD

My biggest fear is that the Democrats (HRC) will suddenly become anti illegal alien, just long enough to regain power and advance socialism/statism. There are a lot of people in this country that want to hear some national leader take a stand against illegals. Don't put it past her.


40 posted on 05/08/2005 7:04:58 PM PDT by Comus (First REVENGE, then ANNIHILATION)
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