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Upset France cries foul over AI’s Boeing deal (whining continues...)
Financial Express ^ | 05/05/05 | desidude_in_us

Posted on 05/05/2005 3:29:04 PM PDT by desidude_in_us

Upset France cries foul over AI’s Boeing deal

Posted online: Thursday, May 05, 2005 at 1145 hours IST

NEW DELHI, MAY 5: Disappointed over Air India's decision to buy 50 aircraft from Boeing and not Airbus Industrie, France feels that "some factors other than commercial" have influenced the deal.

French Ambassador to India Dominique Girard still hopes India will consider "comprehensive factors" while going for 126 fighter planes for the Air Force in which French Mirage jets will be competing. "We are surprised and disappointed. Airbus definitely has an advantage over Boeing," Girard said here when asked to comment on the recent decision by India's international carrier to purchase planes from the American company.

He claimed that Boeing would not be able to deliver all the 50 planes on urgent basis, a requirement of the Air India which could be met easily by Airbus. Listing other "advantages", he said Airbus aircraft are competitive in terms of price, are known to Indian pilots and are easy to train on. "It is clear that some factors other than commercial have played a role," the envoy said, hinting that Air India's decision was influenced by the growing Indo-US relations politically.

Girard, speaking on the sidelines of the launch of Euronews channel here, said the disappointment for Airbus was more as the company expected the Air India order and had even started preparations in this regard.

Asked about possibility of growing Indo-US relations similarly influencing the deal of 126 fighters to be purchased by IAF, the French ambassador said "I am sure the Indian government is wise enough not to base its decision on one factor or other but take comprehensive factors into consideration".

The US has offered to sell its F-16 or F-18 version of jets to India. But France's Dassault company, manufacturer of Mirage planes, is also expected to participate in the bidding.

Girard asserted that the most important advantage of buying fighters from France was reliability. "We value contracts. We never stop supplies in any condition," he said, apparently referring to the US which had imposed halted supplies of several defence items to India after 1998 Pokhran nuclear tests.

Besides, he added, that Mirage fighters, rated among the best in the world, were already known to IAF and these had been tested in combat and other situations. "But if still, the IAF deal goes to the US, it will mean that a lot of other factors have gone into consideration," he said.

He, however, acknowledged that the US was working overtime to push sales of its civilian and military planes which France should also do.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airbus; boeing; bush; condi; diplomacy; eu; france; india; losers; sorelosers; trade; us; waaa; warofwords; whining
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The French are not letting this issue go.. even their government is taking up this issue with the Indian govt... never heard of such a thing happen before.

Must give full credit to the Bush govt, esp Condi Rice, for ensuring this deal.

1 posted on 05/05/2005 3:29:05 PM PDT by desidude_in_us
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To: desidude_in_us

I guess that Chirac couldn't push another Airburst product despite all of his begging, pleading, and bullying.


2 posted on 05/05/2005 3:30:51 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: desidude_in_us
France came up with an impractically large aircraft! Can't land in many places. Too big to load and unload.

No wonder Boeing's orders are flooding in!

3 posted on 05/05/2005 3:31:46 PM PDT by Sen Jack S. Fogbound
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To: desidude_in_us

Chirac: "Le Whaa!"


4 posted on 05/05/2005 3:35:02 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: desidude_in_us

Will Airbus EVER accept its losses and move on?

Boeing has lost several major orders in the last few years but do you see them whine and cry and beg? No. They just keep bettering their products.

Fact: the Boeing 787 is superior to the Airbus A350
Fact: while the 787 will be able to land at most of the world's airports, the A380 will only be able to land at about 50 worldwide---in the next 10 years


5 posted on 05/05/2005 3:37:07 PM PDT by wk4bush2004
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To: desidude_in_us

A French company loses a deal and it's an international incident. Good reason to avoid these people.


6 posted on 05/05/2005 3:37:08 PM PDT by DManA
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"We value contracts. We never stop supplies in any condition,"

I hate to admit it, but it's true. Heck, just ask Saddam.
7 posted on 05/05/2005 3:38:05 PM PDT by andyk (When chewing gum is outlawed, only outlaws will chew gum.)
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To: Thud

fyi


8 posted on 05/05/2005 3:38:23 PM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: desidude_in_us

Who wins in a head to head between a Mirage and an F-16 or F-18?

Are the F's fast enough to catch a retreating Mirage?


9 posted on 05/05/2005 3:39:24 PM PDT by montomike (Gay means happy and carefree...not an abomination against nature's check valve.)
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To: DManA
I just love the frogs.

Cheese eating surrender monkeys.

10 posted on 05/05/2005 3:39:42 PM PDT by oldtimer
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To: desidude_in_us

Hmmm. Must be part of the vast RW conspiracy, cause the Canadians bought Boeing, too.

http://www.financegates.com/news/business_news/2005-04-27/boeing2704.html

dung.


11 posted on 05/05/2005 3:39:59 PM PDT by Moose Dung (Soiling the Shoes of the Lunatic Left)
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To: montomike

Check out the Gulf War report cards. We shot down any Iraqi Mirage that came at us.


12 posted on 05/05/2005 3:40:56 PM PDT by oldleft
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To: desidude_in_us

lets see.. their government essentially is part of airbus - and they are complaining about the u.s. government interfering? Cry me a river.

I am guessing they are trying to make an example object out of idia to other nations.


13 posted on 05/05/2005 3:41:24 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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"Are the F's fast enough to catch a retreating Mirage?"

The missiles certainly are.
14 posted on 05/05/2005 3:41:42 PM PDT by Windcatcher
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"France feels that "some factors other than commercial" have influenced the deal."

It's called capitalism. Boeing Good, Airbus Bad.


15 posted on 05/05/2005 3:42:14 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: desidude_in_us

"Le Cr@p!" LOL


16 posted on 05/05/2005 3:42:51 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Maybe India prefers a plane that won't throw it's wing up and fall to the ground at the first sign of turbulence.
17 posted on 05/05/2005 3:42:55 PM PDT by whereasandsoforth (Stamp out liberals with the big boot of truth)
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To: desidude_in_us

McDonald Douglas used to broker and/or arrange deals
that included stuff as diverse as blueberry harvests, rice,
cotton, shoes, wood, etc. in order to sell planes abroad.
All those guys work for Boeing now.


18 posted on 05/05/2005 3:45:15 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain on the dress.)
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To: desidude_in_us

Girard asserted that the most important advantage of buying fighters from France was reliability. "We value contracts. We never stop supplies in any condition," he said, apparently referring to the US which had imposed halted supplies of several defence items to India after 1998 Pokhran nuclear tests.
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Translation: If you proliferate or act aggressively against civillians or start wars we will continue to supply your military.

Curious... I thought the USA was the 'evil' country.


19 posted on 05/05/2005 3:48:21 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/charterschoolsexplained.htm)
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To: desidude_in_us

Seems like just yesterday they were glowing in their ode to the 'Tower of Babel' or was it the 'Titanic'?


20 posted on 05/05/2005 3:49:48 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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