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Newfound Dinosaur a Transitional Creature
Las Vegas Sun (AP) ^ | May 04, 2005 | Malcolm Ritter

Posted on 05/04/2005 12:32:23 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan

Caught in the act of evolution, the odd-looking, feathered dinosaur was becoming more vegetarian, moving away from its meat-eating ancestors.

It had the built-for-speed legs of meat-eaters, but was developing the bigger belly of plant-eaters. It had already lost the serrated teeth needed for tearing flesh. Those were replaced with the smaller, duller vegetarian variety.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: crevolist; dinosaurs; evolution; godsgravesglyphs; paleontology; transitionalfossil
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To: AndrewC
"Reviewers tend to be especially critical of conclusions that contradict their own views, and lenient towards those that accord with them."

So let's get those reviewers out of the system and everything will be fine!

141 posted on 05/04/2005 2:47:37 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: metacognative
These Nutty Darwinites remind me of medieval theologians imagining how many angels could sit on the head of pin! And they want to call it 'science'.

[pot calling kettle black alert]

142 posted on 05/04/2005 2:48:01 PM PDT by narby
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To: PatrickHenry
I've already got TimeCube. Nothing else matters.

Thphth!

143 posted on 05/04/2005 2:48:52 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: narby; mlc9852
Let me reiterate that. Only the OJ Jury could doubt evolution if they read and understood that link.

If evolution is so indubitable, then

Evo believers are going the way of the dinosaur. And they know it, which is why they are making wilder and wilder claims like yours above.
144 posted on 05/04/2005 2:50:15 PM PDT by Dataman
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To: Dimensio
[ Just who do you think are finding the fakes? ]

Non-Evo scientists.. The Evo scientists are hampered by their own DOGMA(s).. except they do argue among their congregations like protestants do of different sects.. Which dogma do YOU adhere to.?. if any.. Evos are more like Baptists.. There are many kinds of Baptists but they all agree on certain things.. but mostly on being a baptist is better than being a non-baptist.. same with Evos.. they argue on minutiae but agree that God did not create man.. at least the God of bible fame did not create him.

"Materialism says the universe is mindless; and faith says it is ruled by the highest mind. Neither will be satisfied with the new progressive creed, which declares hopefully that the universe is half-witted."-G.K. Chesterton

"It is absurd for the Evolutionist to complain that it is unthinkable for an admittedly unthinkable God to make everything out of nothing, and then pretend that it is more thinkable that nothing should turn ITself into everything."-G.K. Chesterton

145 posted on 05/04/2005 2:51:18 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe
Non-Evo scientists..

Do you have a citation, or do you just want to admit up-front that you're making this all up?
146 posted on 05/04/2005 2:52:12 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: MeanWestTexan

"It had the built-for-speed legs of meat-eaters, but was developing the bigger belly of plant-eaters. It had already lost the serrated teeth needed for tearing flesh. Those were replaced with the smaller, duller vegetarian variety."

This was a "crossover" model, designed for running down and eating fast moving plants.


147 posted on 05/04/2005 2:52:30 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: a_screen_name
Hovind states: "The universe came into being by itself by purely natural processes (known as evolution) so that no appeal to the supernatural is needed."

Which is complete BS. Evolution has nothing whatever to do with "how the universe came into being"

Only a creationist could be so ignorant.

148 posted on 05/04/2005 2:53:40 PM PDT by narby
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To: narby
Thanks for the DNA post.

The first link in the post is missing. Do you remember what it was?
149 posted on 05/04/2005 2:54:16 PM PDT by clyde asbury (She wants to be your bride. Are you gonna do it?)
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To: Dataman
Why are evos so afraid of criticism?

They aren't.

Why are most people not persuaded?

Worldwide, educated people are.

Why are scientists abandoning it?

They aren't

Why is it a theory in crisis?

It isn't

Why, as with Islam, are those who leave the evo plantation threatened with job loss and ruin?

Because if they are scientists "leaving the evo plantation" is the approximate equivalent of taking leave of your senses.

Why hasn't a monopoly on the public schools caused belief in the evo fairy tale to increase?

Beats me, I guess church instilled attitudes die hard.

150 posted on 05/04/2005 2:55:26 PM PDT by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: Dataman
I was going to respond, then I saw that it was you. You're a shameless liar, and a hypocrite to boot, so there's no point in correcting your dishonesty; you'll just keep repeating your lies over and over again.

Everyone: I do not call Dataman a hypocrite for no good reason. Months ago I made a claim about statements made by creationists here on FR. Dataman asked me to back up my claim (since he apparently believed that I was lying). I provided numerous quotes along with citations by way of linking to the original posts. Out of all of my links, one was broken -- I had apparently malformed it. Dataman claimed outright that I had "fabricated" the quote, without even suggesting that I might have made an error in posting the link. As soon as I saw that the link was broken, I corrected the mistaken and provided a correct link. Dataman never apologized for accusing me of lying with the link.

Later, Dataman linked to an avi file of a debate between Gish and someone else, but the link was broken. I pointed this out, and Dataman insisted that the broken link was working, and that I was just too stupid to know how to use FTP (Gee, maybe it's because I eschew FTP on my home machine in favour of sftp). Only after another creationist corrected the link did Dataman own up to the mistake. Of course, no apology was forthcoming for his accusing me of being a liar when I made a similar mistake, even though I didn't lie about it like he did when my mistake was pointed out.

Dataman is a shameless liar and hypocrite. He is one of the reasons that creationists aren't taken seriously.
151 posted on 05/04/2005 2:56:10 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: hosepipe
"Materialism says the universe is mindless; and faith says it is ruled by the highest mind. Neither will be satisfied with the new progressive creed, which declares hopefully that the universe is half-witted."-G.K. Chesterton

Given that the Earth is part of the universe, the conclusion that the universe is "ruled by the highest mind" is manifestly ridiculous. If anything, the earth is an argument that there is no intelligent life in the universe.

"It is absurd for the Evolutionist to complain that it is unthinkable for an admittedly unthinkable God to make everything out of nothing, and then pretend that it is more thinkable that nothing should turn ITself into everything."-G.K. Chesterton

The two propositions are equally improbable. I prefer the one in which God is not insane.

152 posted on 05/04/2005 2:56:51 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Dimensio
Check this out from Hovind's site:

When I use the word evolution, I am not referring to the minor variations found in all of the various life forms (microevolution). I am referring to the general theory of evolution which believes these five major events took place without God:

1. Time, space, and matter came into existence by themselves. 2. Planets and stars formed from space dust. 3. Matter created life by itself. 4. Early life-forms learned to reproduce themselves. 5. Major changes occurred between these diverse life forms (i.e., fish changed to amphibians, amphibians changed to reptiles, and reptiles changed to birds or mammals).

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That's one of the funniest pieces of silliness I've ever seen.

153 posted on 05/04/2005 2:57:08 PM PDT by narby
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To: narby
It would be funnier if a number of creationists insisted that it was the actual theory and that any scientist who doesn't mean that when speaking of the theory of evolution simply "doesn't know what they're advocating".

I've dealt with such thick-skulled creationists. It's frightening that there are people that stupid out there.
154 posted on 05/04/2005 2:58:38 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: narby

Actually all fakes are found by evolutionists because creationists do no field work. (They don't find real fossils either.)

All fakes are exposed as fake by evolugionists because creationists do no lab work. (Piltdown for example.)


155 posted on 05/04/2005 3:00:14 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Dimensio
Dataman is a shameless liar and hypocrite. He is one of the reasons that creationists aren't taken seriously.

I've had similar experiences with Dataman. I tend to forget unplesantries, so I don't remember the details.

I've sometimes I've thought that he was a evo-troll, making creationists look bad. I think I accused him of that at one time and got no response.

156 posted on 05/04/2005 3:00:57 PM PDT by narby
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To: Dataman

1. Why are evos so afraid of criticism?

They are not. They do, however, annoyed with the same old lies repeated over-and-over, even with those lies are shown to be lies.

2. Why are most people not persuaded?

Same reason so many people think the moon shots were faked in a back lot in Hollywood, I suppose.

3/4. Why are scientist abandoning it? Why is the theory in crisis?

Don't know what you are talking about. You misperceive quibbling about the details (fast vs. slow, spurts vs. graudual) and other typical give-and-take on how something works as a crisis.

Scientist's float competing theories and they test each other.

4. Why, as with Islam, are those who leave the evo plantation threatened with job loss and ruin?

I would be interested to hear about that. I suspect it's just more lies. If true, it sounds pretty intolerant to me.

5. Why hasn't a monopoly on the public schools caused belief in the evo fairy tale to increase?

This I blame squarely on teacher unions. The state of science education is so bad that half the kids probably think the world is flat, too.

Doesn't make the world flat, though.

6. Evo believers are going the way of the dinosaur.

So they are evolving? Or leaving room for other species to evolve?

Survival of the fittest, I say.


157 posted on 05/04/2005 3:01:10 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: PatrickHenry

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158 posted on 05/04/2005 3:01:20 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: narby
I've thought that he was a evo-troll, making creationists look bad.

I've wondered that too.

159 posted on 05/04/2005 3:02:03 PM PDT by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: hosepipe

"but agree that God did not create man.. at least the God of bible fame did not create him."

Wrong.

Many merely disagree with the way you chose to interepret the Bible.


160 posted on 05/04/2005 3:02:38 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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