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To: narby; mlc9852
Let me reiterate that. Only the OJ Jury could doubt evolution if they read and understood that link.

If evolution is so indubitable, then

Evo believers are going the way of the dinosaur. And they know it, which is why they are making wilder and wilder claims like yours above.
144 posted on 05/04/2005 2:50:15 PM PDT by Dataman
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To: Dataman
Why are evos so afraid of criticism?

They aren't.

Why are most people not persuaded?

Worldwide, educated people are.

Why are scientists abandoning it?

They aren't

Why is it a theory in crisis?

It isn't

Why, as with Islam, are those who leave the evo plantation threatened with job loss and ruin?

Because if they are scientists "leaving the evo plantation" is the approximate equivalent of taking leave of your senses.

Why hasn't a monopoly on the public schools caused belief in the evo fairy tale to increase?

Beats me, I guess church instilled attitudes die hard.

150 posted on 05/04/2005 2:55:26 PM PDT by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: Dataman
I was going to respond, then I saw that it was you. You're a shameless liar, and a hypocrite to boot, so there's no point in correcting your dishonesty; you'll just keep repeating your lies over and over again.

Everyone: I do not call Dataman a hypocrite for no good reason. Months ago I made a claim about statements made by creationists here on FR. Dataman asked me to back up my claim (since he apparently believed that I was lying). I provided numerous quotes along with citations by way of linking to the original posts. Out of all of my links, one was broken -- I had apparently malformed it. Dataman claimed outright that I had "fabricated" the quote, without even suggesting that I might have made an error in posting the link. As soon as I saw that the link was broken, I corrected the mistaken and provided a correct link. Dataman never apologized for accusing me of lying with the link.

Later, Dataman linked to an avi file of a debate between Gish and someone else, but the link was broken. I pointed this out, and Dataman insisted that the broken link was working, and that I was just too stupid to know how to use FTP (Gee, maybe it's because I eschew FTP on my home machine in favour of sftp). Only after another creationist corrected the link did Dataman own up to the mistake. Of course, no apology was forthcoming for his accusing me of being a liar when I made a similar mistake, even though I didn't lie about it like he did when my mistake was pointed out.

Dataman is a shameless liar and hypocrite. He is one of the reasons that creationists aren't taken seriously.
151 posted on 05/04/2005 2:56:10 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dataman

1. Why are evos so afraid of criticism?

They are not. They do, however, annoyed with the same old lies repeated over-and-over, even with those lies are shown to be lies.

2. Why are most people not persuaded?

Same reason so many people think the moon shots were faked in a back lot in Hollywood, I suppose.

3/4. Why are scientist abandoning it? Why is the theory in crisis?

Don't know what you are talking about. You misperceive quibbling about the details (fast vs. slow, spurts vs. graudual) and other typical give-and-take on how something works as a crisis.

Scientist's float competing theories and they test each other.

4. Why, as with Islam, are those who leave the evo plantation threatened with job loss and ruin?

I would be interested to hear about that. I suspect it's just more lies. If true, it sounds pretty intolerant to me.

5. Why hasn't a monopoly on the public schools caused belief in the evo fairy tale to increase?

This I blame squarely on teacher unions. The state of science education is so bad that half the kids probably think the world is flat, too.

Doesn't make the world flat, though.

6. Evo believers are going the way of the dinosaur.

So they are evolving? Or leaving room for other species to evolve?

Survival of the fittest, I say.


157 posted on 05/04/2005 3:01:10 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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