Toronto area Liberals support down 10 percentage points

The Globe and Mail ^ | Thursday, April 28, 2005 | JEFF GRAY

[fanfan]

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[fanfan]

If the Fiberals lose Toronto, they will lose. Period.

[goldstategop]

I expect the federal Liberals to play the "anti-American" card in Ontario. If you're desperate, its all President Bush's fault.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[Army Air Corps]

One can only hope that the internal liberation of Canada is at hand. Most Canadians who I have met were pleasant, fun-loving, and polite. On the other hand, I never met one from Quebec...

[Clemenza]

Folks in Ontairio are nicer than those in Quebec, but they are still (for the most part) flaming Lefties.

[fanfan]

Probably, but we conservatives won't be playing the pro-American card.( as much as we'd like to -it just won't play in Toronto.)

The new thing seems to be " Not the American way, but a better Canadian way."....We love you folks, but some Canadians (read Toronto) can't handle being the little guy, so we have to pander to those losers to get the Toronto ridings.

THEN, we can can repair the US-Canada relationship. :-)

[conservative in nyc]

This poll is encouraging, but as you said, doesn't reflect the Liberals' last-minute scare the public campaign, equating the Conservatives with those evil Americans.

[Army Air Corps]

Almost all of the Canadians who I have met were from Alberta or Saskatchewan. I started thinking of the Canadians who I have met (my earlier post prompted this action) and did recall one from Quebec. He had a French name and was an arrogant and aloof fella. When he left, few noticed or cared.

[fanfan]

Hey Clem...I'm in Ontario. You calling me a flaming lefty? LOL

It's actually mostly Toronto, and the rust belt.(Toronto to Windsor)

Yes, Army Air corps, the Quebecois are certainly distinct.LOL

[Army Air Corps]

"THEN, we can can repair the US-Canada relationship. :-)"

I certainly hope so. We have, essentially, a common heritage and share a great many traits and attributes. I find it sad that so many in Canada feel compelled to define themselves in terms of "were not Americans." I am curious why those folks choose to define themselves in terms of what they are NOT (a negative position) instead of what the ARE (a positive position).

[fanfan]

I am curious why those folks choose to define themselves in terms of what they are NOT (a negative position) instead of what the ARE (a positive position).

Take it from where it comes, and then discount it accordingly.

Liberals are losers where ever they are. Just think of the blue states.

[Army Air Corps]

Hey, we had an applicant for a position in our department (History) who is from Toronto. She seemed pleasant, but you could sense that below the surface she harboured some, shall we say, rather left-leaning views. It was not blatant, but the subtle hints were there. Oddly, her specialty was the British Imperial era from the late 19th Century to roughly the mid-twentieth Century.

[Army Air Corps]

True. Liberal is as liberal does. :-)
Still, I find it odd that they have to sell
their liberalism in terms of being an antidote to
"Americanism."
The last tie that I checked, individual liberty,
Capitalism, personal responsibility, privatisation, etc
are not uniquely American. We, in large part, just happen
to embrace the concepts a bit more. I sincerely wish to
see Canada leave the "dark side" and US-Canadian relations
reach an unprecedented zenith.

[Clemenza]

Lots of hot women in Quebec though. Its the best place to enjoy "Canadian Ballet."

[kromike]

Taken a step further, if Canada suddenly and unexpectedly went conservative (yeah, I know, an extremely remote possibility), think of all the liberal anguish and teeth-knashing.

And then we could all party like it's 1999...

[fanfan]

Taken a step further, if Canada suddenly and unexpectedly went conservative (yeah, I know, an extremely remote possibility), think of all the liberal anguish and teeth-knashing.

And then we could all party like it's 1999...

Yes! Yes! Yes!

It's coming.

Think of the sound of hand cuffs clinking and clanging as the Fiberal thieves walk into the prisons!

That, my friend, will be a glorious day for honest people everywhere!

[GMMAC]

"I expect the federal Liberals to play the "anti-American" card in Ontario. If you're desperate, its all President Bush's fault."

Ever so slightly more nuanced: "The CPC - and Stephen Harper personally - are slavishly pro-American thus confirming their 'extremism' and innate evil".

Denny Crane "Lock and load" 2 for 1 special:

[gorush]

"...Liberals, down from the 51-per-cent share of the vote the party received in the June, 2004, election."

I question the 51% figure, I'd love for it to be correct, but it seems way understated. But I've been wrong before, heck, I voted for a democrat once! (I was MUCH younger then)

[driftless]

You would have liked the very cute, polite, blond girl I talked to at the Quebec tourist stop in 1987. That was before I met my wife of course (if she's reading this thread).