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Toronto area Liberals support down 10 percentage points
The Globe and Mail ^ | Thursday, April 28, 2005 | JEFF GRAY

Posted on 04/28/2005 2:26:49 PM PDT by fanfan

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To: driftless

Sounds as though your tourist experience was a pleasant one. :-)


21 posted on 04/28/2005 4:18:14 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps; Clemenza; fanfan

Hey, we had an applicant for a position in our department (History) who is from Toronto. She seemed pleasant, but you could sense that below the surface she harboured some, shall we say, rather left-leaning views. It was not blatant, but the subtle hints were there. Oddly, her specialty was the British Imperial era from the late 19th Century to roughly the mid-twentieth Century.

Not surprising to myself. There is a strain of intellectual thought in the Anglosphere that glorifies the achievements of the British Empire and then denigrate the current United States from a very left-leaning perspective. Plenty of such types here in New Zealand and Canada (both countries have Tory/anti-American-conservative roots, but in current manifestions is leftist). Most of the Oxbridge lefturers and professors in history also belong to this category.

22 posted on 04/28/2005 4:54:14 PM PDT by NZerFromHK ("US libs...hypocritical, naive, pompous...if US falls it will be because of these" - Tao Kit (HK))
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To: Army Air Corps; Clemenza; fanfan

To add to post 22, heck, we even have some of these types here on FR. Just type British FRer cooper72 read his posts. ;-)


23 posted on 04/28/2005 4:57:56 PM PDT by NZerFromHK ("US libs...hypocritical, naive, pompous...if US falls it will be because of these" - Tao Kit (HK))
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To: NZerFromHK

The chairman of my Ph.D. committee is married to a Kiwi! He met her whean he was in the Navy (US). He was on a ship bound for Antarctica and met her when the ship came to port in NZ. His wife is VERY conservative and voices her opinion when the topic of conversation is politics.


24 posted on 04/28/2005 6:12:39 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Many New Zealanders who have moved overseas are very conservative politically - probably because they are fed up with domestic politics.


25 posted on 04/28/2005 6:47:39 PM PDT by NZerFromHK ("US libs...hypocritical, naive, pompous...if US falls it will be because of these" - Tao Kit (HK))
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To: NZerFromHK

You said it! Do not get her started on the current liberal bent in NZ; she will mount a soapbox and deliver her opinion with both barrels. I say this only for instances where you only have time for a breif converstaion. If you have the time, then she will deliver a dissertation on the evils of the liberals in NZ.


26 posted on 04/28/2005 6:55:42 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: fanfan

They would lose? If they lost Toronto, they would get virtually wiped off the political map...that is where the Fiberal BEDROCK is!!!

The NDP would gain some seats there too, since there is NO WAY that ridings like Trinity-Spadina and Parkdale-High Park are going Conservative. That would be like Bush winning in San Francisco!


27 posted on 04/28/2005 7:31:37 PM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: fanfan

That's correct. If you move away from the Toronto-Windsor axis, it is quite conservative until you hit Northern Ontario (and who knows what C-38 and C-68 will do up there, although the CPC would have to contend with 3-way splits in the North as the NDP are strong there)...


28 posted on 04/28/2005 7:33:12 PM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: conservative in nyc; fanfan
I don't think the conservatives will be able to do it. It's not only the anti-American card, it'll be every card that the cheats have up their sleeves.

The Libs KNOW that if the Conservatives get in, there could be all KINDS of investigations into their basic, fundamental, corruption and they'll pull all the stops to prevent that from happening.

My tagline says it all

Godspeed

29 posted on 04/28/2005 11:00:19 PM PDT by America's Resolve (Liberal Democrats are liars, cheats and thieves with no morals, scruples, ethics or honor!)
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To: gorush
You're right to question the 51% figure.  I don't have access to the GTA vote share, but here's how the Ontario vote share broke down on election night, from CBC.com on our election live thread:
 
ONTARIO
Party Elected Leading Vote Count Vote Share
LIB 75 0 2259987 44.67%
CON 24 0 1592368 31.47%
NDP 7 0 915291 18.09%
 Last Update:  June 29, 3:05:32 AM EDT 106 seats

30 posted on 04/28/2005 11:53:54 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: Army Air Corps

It's good you have met a Kiwi "true blue" conservative. They are rarer than San Francisco Bush supporters and most (even many New Zealand registered FRers) would be considered moderates by your standards. I could well be among the 10 most right-wing New Zealand citizens outside the paleocon rednecks.


31 posted on 04/29/2005 3:12:33 AM PDT by NZerFromHK ("US libs...hypocritical, naive, pompous...if US falls it will be because of these" - Tao Kit (HK))
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To: NZerFromHK

Soldier on, Mate! The last sentence in you post was funny. Who knows, matbe you and other NZ conservatives will help get your message across and steer NZ back to a more conservative path. Maybe the liberals in NZ well become embroiled in a scandal much like the one that is causing Canada's liberals to implode. One can dream, can't one?


32 posted on 04/29/2005 6:08:00 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: conservative in nyc

I think that 51% is for the entire GTA, including some outlying ridings on the rural fringe that don't really count. For the urban and suburban ridings, it was probably more like 56%, and for the City of Toronto, about 60%.


33 posted on 04/29/2005 9:06:10 AM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: Heartofsong83
We have decided that if Toronto throws the election back to the Liberals then the rest of Canada should leave....Toronto is an entity unto it's self and quite frankly they are a domed community with all the power inflicting punishment on the rest of us. If the Liberals are in Toronto is out.
34 posted on 04/29/2005 1:13:43 PM PDT by styky (All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom; justice; honor)
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To: Army Air Corps

Well, she was paid to be polite. She worked behind the counter for the Quebec tourism industry. Nevertheless she was very engaging...in a very correct sort of way. The whole trip was entertaining not the least of which was unwittingly getting involved in a demonstration in downtown Montreal between anglophiles and francophiles. In short while talking to an anglophile (english-speaking Montreal resident), a francophile came up to us and started berating us in French (of course). He was telling us to quit speaking English. Since I don't speak French, I don't know what language I could have used. Pig latin?


35 posted on 04/29/2005 2:25:15 PM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: NZerFromHK

I have constant (though goodnatured) battles between my wife, who was raised in England, and myself over which country has the best culture. While an American citizen, she still defends Britain and denigrates certain American societal and cultural manifestations (well, so do I). Some times shes right, and some times shes wrong (she certainly knows far more than me about tea). But she will cheerfully add that she much prefers living in the U.S. to Britain.


36 posted on 04/29/2005 2:31:24 PM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: driftless

"Since I don't speak French, I don't know what language I could have used. Pig latin?"

France's second language - German. :-)


37 posted on 04/29/2005 6:15:39 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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