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Feminist, Homosexual Groups Turn Thumbs Down on New Pope
Cyber News Service ^ | 20 April 2005 | Susan Jones

Posted on 04/20/2005 8:41:17 AM PDT by SkyPilot

(CNSNews.com) - American Catholics who want major changes in the church are not happy with the election of a "hard-line" pope who backs longstanding Catholic doctine.

The Women's Ordination Conference, a Catholic feminist organization working for the ordination of women priests, said the church desperately needs a healer, but the cardinals have elected a divider: "This is another example of how the hierarchy is out of touch with Catholics in the pews," said Joy Barnes, executive director of the Women's Ordination Conference.

According to the WOC, recent polls show that over two-thirds of U.S. Catholics support women's ordination, yet Ratzinger has repeatedly stated his firm opposition to women priests.

"Cardinal Ratzinger's election as pope will galvanize faithful Catholics to work even more passionately for a renewed priesthood that includes women," said Aisha Taylor, WOC's program director.

"We pray for Pope Benedict XVI to lead the Roman Catholic Church toward reconciliation for the church's sins of abuse, sexism, racism, heterosexism and all oppression. We trust the Holy Spirit will continue to work in our church to fulfill Jesus' radical message of justice."

"Rigid''

The National Coalition of American Nuns noted that the new pope has the reputation of being "rigid in his position as head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith, silencing and expelling theologians, priests and nuns whom he perceived as not being orthodox.

"He certainly is not known for his sensitivity to the exclusion of women in the Church's leadership," the nuns said in a statement.

The group said it would pray for a miracle - that Pope Benedict XVI "will, like the Benedictines, be hospitable and welcome all persons.

"We pray that he will be open to the full partnership and full participation of women in a church that suffers because of the lack of women's creativity and lived experience. We do believe in miracles," the National Coalition of American Nuns concluded.

"Distressing''

A number of homosexual advocacy groups expressed the Catholic Church''s future treatment of homosexual and transgender people.

DignityUSA, which bills itself as the "voice for gay, lesbian, and transgender Catholics," reacted with "dismay" to the elevation of Cardinal Ratzinger.

"The new Pope is seen as the principal author of the most virulently anti-gay, anti-GLBT rhetoric in the last papacy," said DignityUSA President Sam Sinnett.

"The elevation of Cardinal Ratzinger is being seen by many GLBT Catholics as a profound betrayal by the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church and betrayal of one of the most fundamental teachings of Jesus Christ as the loving Good Shepherd who reached out to the ones separated from the flock."

Sinnett called the election of the new pope a test of faith: "We express deep sadness for all those who will find themselves further alienated from the church because of Cardinal Ratzinger's assumption of the papacy. With their support and that of all our members and allies, we will re-double our efforts to speak the truth of our lives as faithful GLBT Catholics."

DignityUSA called on its members to enter into a "period of prayer for the church and the world" from now until Pentecost, which will be celebrated on May 15th. "Pentecost is the feast of the birth of the church," said Sinnett. "We pray that this Pentecost may be a time of rebirth."

"We hope that Pope Benedict XVI will follow the biblical tradition of expressing love and compassion for all," said Human Rights Campaign President Joe Solmonese in a statement.

"In the past, he has made deeply disturbing comments regarding gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people so his selection as the 265th pope is distressing. It's imperative that there be a positive conversation with the Catholic Church about GLBT people of faith and we welcome that discourse."

The Human Rights Campaign noted that in 1986, then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger delivered a Letter to the bishops of the Catholic Church on the Pastoral Care of Homosexual Persons. He wrote, "Although the particular inclination of the homosexual person is not a sin, it is a more or less strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil."

"Disappointment''

The Triangle Foundation, which serves Michigan''s gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender (GLBT) and allied communities, said the new pope has been among "the most virulent, hard-line doctrinaire conservatives, especially on the issue of choice, gay and lesbian inclusion and acceptance and most of the other "social'' issues faced by the Catholic Church.

"This elevation can only be a disappointment to gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Catholics and others of us who observe and monitor the Church''s activism," said Jeffrey Montgomery, executive director of the Triangle Foundation.

"Based on his history and his demagoguery it is nearly impossible to imagine that this new Pope will usher in an era of reconciliation and welcome. Ratzinger has been the author and voice of oppression and attack on GLBT people."

"Homophobic''

The Rev. Troy D. Perry, a homosexual activist and moderator of the Metropolitan Community Churches, expressed a "deep sadness that one of the world's most homophobic religious leaders has been elevated to the papacy, and regret that his policies will continue to devalue the rich spiritual gifts of LGBT people and women of faith.

"My faith teaches that all people can change, so my prayers today are that the eyes of Cardinal Ratzinger -- now Pope Benedict XVI -- will be opened to the unique giftedness and blessing that LGBT people can be to the church.

"And my prayers today are with my brothers and sisters in the Roman Catholic Church, and those whose lives will be harmed by church policies that treat LGBT people with less than unconditional acceptance and dignity.""


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To: EdReform; All
I found myself repeating our ritual blessing when making love with a woman, "Bless your lips...bless your breasts"...In Wicca, the goddess becomes a metaphor...She could even be He; there are covens who celebrate the horned God...I draw strength from my religion in which 'all acts of love and pleasure are Her rituals."

And am sure this is not fiction... there is a lot of ugly stuff out there they don't shows. We are talking about LOCOS COMPLETOS! - (wackos to the extreme). So dirty they must feel, like desperate rats scratching frantically for some acceptance of their unclean and pervert lives. Only the church, they probably hope can alleviate the stench of their own filth.

Sorry, very little sympathy when they actually seek to destroy the church.

181 posted on 04/20/2005 4:34:30 PM PDT by ElPatriota (let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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To: OriginalChristian

I'm thinking not only of the directly affected groups, such as homosexuals and women who wish to become priests, but those who are in strong agreement with such groups. I think 1% is probably about right. Enough to be noisy, but not enough to hold any sway over doctrine.


182 posted on 04/20/2005 4:35:58 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Rumors of the demise of the conservative Democrat have been greatly exaggerated)
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To: SkyPilot

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183 posted on 04/20/2005 4:37:24 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: ElPatriota

When people believe their own pleasure is the highest good, this is what you get.

Big contrast between "Not my will, but thine."


184 posted on 04/20/2005 4:56:29 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: maryz
I think they meant "heteronormativism."

Ah yes, I think you have a point there. I remember that screed at Harvard criticizing someone for being "heteronormative." The "crime" was a bland statement that people deserve to fall in love, get married, and have children.

Pretty "radical" stuff, don't you agree?

185 posted on 04/20/2005 5:07:43 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...

Homosexual Agenda + Moral Absolutes Ping.

A two-fer.

With feminists AND homosexuals as enemies, this is a good sign.

Let me know if you want on/off either pinglist (and sorry for anyone getting pung twice, some are on both lists...)


187 posted on 04/20/2005 5:13:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: SkyPilot

Faith in what, that's the question. Certainly not faith in God, since faith in God means faith in His instructions.


188 posted on 04/20/2005 5:14:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: SkyPilot

We need to make a t shirt - have one of those abstract icons of a family, male figure, female figure, child, and under it, the legend:

Heteronormative and proud of it!


189 posted on 04/20/2005 5:17:39 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: SkyPilot

What a shock, I thought the minute they saw the white smoke, they would change their evil ways and start living a clean life!

/sarcasm


190 posted on 04/20/2005 5:18:44 PM PDT by Dashing Dasher (Hunting is women's work!)
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To: little jeremiah

A lot of them don't know God, or have built their own...


191 posted on 04/20/2005 5:20:19 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Sure did, a whole lot of Angels got their wings on this one!

Heterosexism is actually described as one of the sins of the Church!! I laughed so hard, I couldn't respond right away!

Masters of projection, deception, and lies. And with all that going against them, they actually think ANYONE in the Church is going to pay any attention! Self Absorbed and lives governed by perverted sex. How to have it, how to make it legal, how to have it some more, how to force it down everyone else's throat, how to have even more perverted sex. They are people third, victims second and homosexuals first.
192 posted on 04/20/2005 5:28:26 PM PDT by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: SkyPilot
I wouldn't want to be in their shoes!! For the obvious reason as well, but they dare to blatantly defy God?? It's wrong to try and force US to accept it, to throw your perversion and abomination in the face of God........I doubt the devil is going to have mercy on their souls.
193 posted on 04/20/2005 5:34:07 PM PDT by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: SandyInSeattle

More likely, only a few in the pews. The rest have been wondering why the church allows them to continue sinning and not throw them out until they repent and sin no more.


194 posted on 04/20/2005 5:36:13 PM PDT by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: Lowell
Exactly right, we don't have to accept or have our children taught all about, or accept dominatrix!! We don't wanna know what they do either. Why are we allowing the homos to force it on us, our children and even thrust it on the screen on television?
195 posted on 04/20/2005 5:38:55 PM PDT by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: SkyPilot
It's ridiculous that they attack Pope Benedict XVI for simply UPHOLDING the teachings of the Church. Someone hand these nimrods a Catechism!
196 posted on 04/20/2005 5:41:44 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Demand Mexico Turnover Fugitive Murderers: http://www.escapingjustice.com)
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To: adgirl
No, no. They can't simply go become Episcopalians. That would mean you'd be allowed to practice your Faith! Unhindered!

Instead they want to change YOUR FAITH, stealing it from you because, obviously, they know better than your conscious and the Magisterium.

197 posted on 04/20/2005 5:45:10 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Demand Mexico Turnover Fugitive Murderers: http://www.escapingjustice.com)
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To: longtermmemmory

2.7% of 1.1 billion Catholics is... about 30 million or close to the entire population of California. Something to think about, no?


198 posted on 04/20/2005 5:48:33 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Demand Mexico Turnover Fugitive Murderers: http://www.escapingjustice.com)
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To: SkyPilot

I trust you did not put this in breaking news.


199 posted on 04/20/2005 5:50:49 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: johnb838
The "real estimate" you claim is just an estimate. It isn't as if everyone with a homoerotic thought is "out" or going to be covered by the stats.

Does it matter? Even if it is 2.7%, that works out to close to 30 million Catholics or roughty the number of folks in California. That's a lot of people.

200 posted on 04/20/2005 5:53:53 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Demand Mexico Turnover Fugitive Murderers: http://www.escapingjustice.com)
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