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The mall has a "code of conduct" for kids ?? Wait until the ACLU hears about THIS !
1 posted on 04/20/2005 7:31:12 AM PDT by kingattax
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I remember my high school kids talking about shootings and fights at the mall. The mall kept it quiet to avoid the bad press. I would be surprised if the problem group was 16-17. It's probably the 18-21 group.

Something about a mall just turns people into iceholes.


2 posted on 04/20/2005 7:33:55 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: kingattax

I love it. All malls should have this.


3 posted on 04/20/2005 7:34:27 AM PDT by jhigh
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Leann Newcomb questioned the rule.

"They sell that stuff," said Newcomb. "How are they going to tell the kids after they buy that stuff not to wear it? Isn't that a violation of your constitutional rights?"

If you're as much of a dumbass as Leann Newcomb, I guess the best use of a Friday night is hanging out a mall.

4 posted on 04/20/2005 7:34:32 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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Interesting. No doubt a lot of these kids are just at the mall to "hang out," and that may appear to the mall owner to be a problem they must deal with.

OTOH, the solution may well be a bigger problem than the original problem. While it may seem like the kids are just hanging out and not acting as customers, it's probably not really true. They're probably customers, but not all the time they're in the mall.

And they may become permanent non-customers if they can't come to the mall on their own. A lot of malls have tried this ban on unaccompanied teenagers. Most abandon that ban after a short time, when the shops that cater to these kids start complaining about sales.

Better to establish a sensible dress and behavior code and enforce it. And by a sensible dress code I don't mean that the teenagers have to look like their parents.


6 posted on 04/20/2005 7:36:36 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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This is exactly why the malls are dying and the big-box strip malls (Wal-Mart, Lowes, Barnes and Noble, Sears..., etc. all in a row) are the only things being built.

Loitering mall rats drive legitimate shoppers away.

7 posted on 04/20/2005 7:39:19 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: kingattax

This has been in place at the Mall of America for at least the last 3 years. Happened after a couple of gang members shot up one of the food courts..


9 posted on 04/20/2005 7:40:43 AM PDT by Explodo (Pessimism is simply pattern recognition)
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The last time I was at our local mall I had to walk past the ambulance and step over the trail of blood from the stabbing.


10 posted on 04/20/2005 7:42:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I don't suffer from stress. I am a carrier!)
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While I might be more inclined to shop at a mall that is trying to improve the shopping experience for its patrons, I dislike it when a company makes a blanket rule to prevent the actions of a few.

I refuse to buy gas from a place that requires me to pay first if I'm paying with cash. Just because there are some people who don't pay for their gas, I don't want to feel punished for their actions.


11 posted on 04/20/2005 7:42:13 AM PDT by Mr. Mulliner ("If it ain't broke, don't lend it.")
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Hey, the mall has a right to be as stupid as it wants to be. I have a hunch that the food court vendors aren't long for that mall unless the policy changes.


13 posted on 04/20/2005 7:42:31 AM PDT by Melas
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her 15-year-old daughter, Ashley.

It seems that every third girl under the age of 20 is named Ashley.

14 posted on 04/20/2005 7:42:53 AM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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"I feel as though if I want to drop my kids off, I should. They're responsible," said Leann Newcomb of Lowell, Mass...

You just keep on feeling, babe. In fact, start feeling in one hand and wishing in the other, and see which one gets full first...

15 posted on 04/20/2005 7:44:25 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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An idea whose time has come


16 posted on 04/20/2005 7:44:33 AM PDT by NRA1995 ("The Minuteman Project: doing the job our government doesn't want to do")
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Anybody who has seen what wanders up to Nashua from Lawrence, Lynn and Lowell will have not question as to why this policy is being implemented.


19 posted on 04/20/2005 7:46:10 AM PDT by Meldrim
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"God knows what they'll be doing if they're not at the mall," she said. "To say it's not allowed is not the right answer. Let them have their place."

The problem with that is: It's NOT their place! The Mall belongs to its owners and the stores that rent space within them.

Call me crazy, but teenages have no business just "hanging out" in large groups ANYWHERE without responsible adult supervision.

21 posted on 04/20/2005 7:48:02 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: kingattax

My opinion of the policy really doesn't matter - the Mall is private property and the owner/management have the right to set the policies as they see fit.

If it were a government implemented policy I would be having a fit - whether I agreed with it or not.


24 posted on 04/20/2005 7:51:09 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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That tremendous moan you just heard was the ACLU having a collective orgasm. This won't last long.


26 posted on 04/20/2005 7:54:45 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (It takes all kinds of critters...to make Farmer Vincents fritters)
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One of the rules at Pheasant Lane prohibits dress "commonly recognized as gang-related."

Flame away if you want...but if they're going to be this "police statist" about who gets into a mall (yes, yes, I know mall ownership has every right to do this bear with me here)...why not take it to the next level and have local LEO's (or whoever has the appropriate power here) and round up all suspected gang members under the guise of being enemy combatants?

A few months of that will quickly solve the problem of wanna-be thugs and the thugs themselves. Personally...I'm sick and tired of neighborhood after neighborhood being degraded, dismembered, and rendered void of decency and safety by this glorified thug culture.

30 posted on 04/20/2005 7:59:26 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (Socialists are blessed with the desire to serve others. That's why most of them work @ McDonalds)
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Malls as babysitters? These parents are crazy!


38 posted on 04/20/2005 2:00:14 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (" It is not true that life is one damn thing after another-it's one damn thing over and over." ESV)
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I go to Pheasant Lane often. Mostly because it's in NH and I don't have to pay sales tax.

I'm about halfway between PL and the Burlington Mall which I found to have higher prices.

Half the problem IMO is the parents of these kids who view the malls as nothing else but a free baby sitter.

The mall owners shouldn't have to endure the legal consequences of the actions of unruly kids that are left in their care.
39 posted on 04/20/2005 3:31:37 PM PDT by HEY4QDEMS
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Were this to happen at Roosevelt Field!!!!


44 posted on 04/20/2005 4:20:00 PM PDT by cyborg (Serving fresh, hot Anti-opus since 18 April 2005)
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