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Atom Smasher Yields 'Perfect Fluid'
LA Times ^ | April 19, 2005 | Thomas H. Maugh II

Posted on 04/19/2005 2:26:32 PM PDT by neverdem

The unexpected finding could provide insight into the creation of the universe, scientists say.

Researchers smashing gold atoms together to mimic conditions in the first microseconds after the creation of the universe have observed an unexpected new state of matter.

Instead of the thin, fiery gas of quarks and gluons that they expected, they found instead a dense drop of the elementary particles that behaves like a hitherto unseen "perfect fluid."

It is "a truly stunning finding," said Raymond L. Orbach, director of the Department of Energy's Office of Science.

Quarks are the fundamental building blocks of protons, neutrons and other subatomic particles, held together in pairs and triplets by mysterious particles called gluons, whose attractive force is so overwhelming that neither quarks nor gluons have ever been seen separated from one another in nature.

When the universe was created, however, it consisted only of a massive swarm of gluons and quarks, a so-called quark-gluon plasma, which quickly condensed into conventional matter.

Four separate international teams now believe that they have created a small, short-lived quark-gluon plasma whose behavior will provide insights into the moments after the big bang that started everything off.

"We think we are looking at a phenomenon [similar to what happened] in the universe 13 billion years ago when free quarks and gluons … cooled down to the particles that we know today," said Sam Aronson of Brookhaven National Laboratory in Upton, N.Y., where the experiments were performed.

Aronson spoke Monday at a news conference at a meeting of the American Physical Society in Florida, where the results were presented.

"The matter that they are seeing is even more interesting … than we thought it would be," said theoretical physicist Berndt Mueller of Duke University. "They have presented a compelling case for the achievement of an...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Technical; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bigbang; brookhaven; fluidmechanics; gluons; physics; quarks; science
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To: MacDorcha

Quarks and Gluons.........I prefer a single malt myself.


21 posted on 04/19/2005 2:43:29 PM PDT by blackdog (Happy as a bastard on father's day............)
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To: randog

I believe one Jack Daniels beat them to this

It's too bad the corporation that now owns Jack Daniels has changed the recipe ant the Old no 7 is now just 80 proof. Old jack is rolling in his grave bout now. I for onw will not drink my beloved Jack Daniels until they go back to the orginal recipe. Talking heads at the company say they did it because their customers wanted a lower proof drink, yea right.


22 posted on 04/19/2005 2:49:36 PM PDT by Ignatius J Reilly
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To: blackdog
What we have here is an announcement of new grant applications.

I agree. It's getting old. Seems they find Atlantis twice a week.
If they announced they found a boy who cried "Wolf!", I wouldn't believe them...
23 posted on 04/19/2005 2:50:21 PM PDT by djf
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To: blackdog
Here, Here!
Glenlivet!

Truly the perfect fluid!
24 posted on 04/19/2005 2:51:11 PM PDT by e5man_r_u? (A Man's mission: Build, Protect, Provide)
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To: neverdem
"Quarks are the fundamental building blocks of protons, neutrons and other subatomic particles, held together in pairs and triplets by mysterious particles called gluons, whose attractive force is so overwhelming that neither quarks nor gluons have ever been seen separated from one another in nature."

I'm sure there are people that not only understand this stuff, but actually believe it ... right?

So it's their religion, newly discovered and founded against my spiritual relationship with Jesus.

I'm the nut and they're not?

Gluons, ... indeed.

Quarks and gluons have been seen?

25 posted on 04/19/2005 2:51:32 PM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: djf

They've already spent the billions on the hardware - let them use it and report on their results for God's sake.


26 posted on 04/19/2005 2:51:33 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Physicist

Cleanup needed in aisle 25.


27 posted on 04/19/2005 2:53:29 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: dirtboy
Since plasma is the most common state of matter in the universe, I guess that it should not be surprising. But it is fascinatinting.
28 posted on 04/19/2005 2:54:42 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: neverdem

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29 posted on 04/19/2005 3:00:08 PM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (MIF = the Mexican Invasion Force)
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To: Ignatius J Reilly

"Talking heads at the company say they did it because their customers wanted a lower proof drink, yea right."

More likely they figured they could slightly lower their duty and increase their market marginally by doing this. As you have noted, suits at drinks conglomerates care absolutely nothing for tradition nor brand loyalty when it opposes a number on a page.

Another good example, taking off the guinness pic above, was when Guinness quit bottle-conditioning their Guinness extra stout bottles maybe 13-14 years ago. The taste change was dramatic, and for me has only gone downhill since then. Given the complexity found in the bottle conditioned-drink, drinking the present incarnation is not nearly as fun.

The classic example must surely be the move from real coca-cola to corn-syrup coca-cola "classic'" Does ANYONE like corn syrup better than sugar coke? Not that KO cares...


30 posted on 04/19/2005 3:00:27 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: neverdem

"When the universe was created,..."

There is a line that I never thought that I would see in the LA Times.


31 posted on 04/19/2005 3:04:01 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (I am sick of brownshirts in black robes)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

If they reported correctly I would have no problem.
We have seen evidence recently that the standard models are wrong - flat out wrong.

First, remote galaxies are spinning too fast or too slow, I'm unsure which.
So they invent "dark matter".
Then, the detectable rate of expansion of the universe turns out to be too big.
So they invent "dark energy".
Now, they have found structure in remote galaxies that could not have possibly formed in such a short time after the big bang.
So I guess next will be "dark time".

As long as they look for new particles and new states of matter, they will find them. They are eigenvalues.

I could have stuck with physics. But the academic side is intolerable.


32 posted on 04/19/2005 3:05:32 PM PDT by djf
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To: neverdem

"The perfect fluid" - A politician’s excuses.


33 posted on 04/19/2005 3:09:47 PM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: All

the atom smasher is probably leaking oil....


34 posted on 04/19/2005 3:10:08 PM PDT by michaelbfree
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To: Ignatius J Reilly
Talking heads at the company say they did it because their customers wanted a lower proof drink...

JD was tired of being associated with getting falling-down f&*%#ed up.

35 posted on 04/19/2005 3:17:51 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: neverdem
There's an earlier thread on this subject: In the beginning was ... a perfect liquid?
36 posted on 04/19/2005 3:21:53 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: Yo-Yo
Second place:
Guinness over Bass Ale – a nearly perfect fluid. The Irish should always be over the English.
37 posted on 04/19/2005 3:27:42 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: djf; Physicist
I share in your frustration - maybe Physicist can clear away some smoke, but from what I hear "dark matter and energy" is a theoretical mechanism to explain strange dynamic behaviour within galaxies (deviation from the expected galactic rotation rate vs. distance function- due to dark matter) and galactic clusters (clumping of galaxies along "walls" and "filaments" - due to repulsion of matter by dark energy).

There are "low-cost" experiments underway to locate dark matter particles streaming through local space by the effects of rare collisions with atoms in a crystal lattice.

My understanding is that the dark matter effects can also be explained by 10-dimensional string theory which also explains why gravity is so weak from our point of view - gravity is dispersed in other dimensions ("bulk space").

But I defer to Physicist...

38 posted on 04/19/2005 3:30:51 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Ignatius J Reilly

I had heard that was an urban legend – until I dug out an old Jack bottle (empty) and saw that it was 86 proof.
What the heck – it still taste good.


39 posted on 04/19/2005 3:37:04 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott
I'm sorry on this one. Bass Ale beats Guinness. Bass Ale is one of the finest Pale Ales on the globe. It's hopping and grain is par excellence. An uncapped bottle or poured draft Bass has such a complex venting of VOC's from the hops it's amazing.

Guinness is good, but not so aromatic or complex. Good beer for burnt grain. The Irish were too busy being soccer hooligans and hurried for the next pint so they hurried the roasting. No time to gather the elements properly.

40 posted on 04/19/2005 3:38:50 PM PDT by blackdog (Happy as a bastard on father's day............)
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