Fed's torch church in show of force

PBS ^ | October 1995 | WGBH, Frontline

[ASTM36]

Waco: The Inside Story

[speed_addiction]

The BATFags were dead meat, out of ammo, in the open. Koresh and his people let them off the hook, and sealed their own death sentence.

I remember seeing this on TV. The ATF agents all coming out of cover with their hands up and weaponless to recover their wounded. They literally had their ass handed to them. This was not just stomping kittens to death like they were used to.

[MamaLucci]

And don't anyone think only Dems would do this.

Sorry, but that's just BS.
I have many complaints with my party, most of them having
to do with a LACK of intestinal fortitude. There is NO WAY
a Republican administration would have had the balls,
or the media cover, to do what clinton's thugs did at Waco.

[southronbtgoG]

NO MORE WACOs'.Just thinking of WACO gets my blood boiling.The BATF showed their true colors that day,and got their butts kicked and killed,by American Citizens who were defending themselves.So in comes Big Brother along with the Military and burnt the place to the ground killing some 80+ people.Govt. lies followed (called CYA) fake hearing ect..To put it in a nutshell,Never again.NEVER FORGET

[ASTM36]

You are correct.

The BATF wanted to arrest David Koresh and few others and confiscate some weapons.

Their Sunday morning assault on February 28, 1993 started the MURDER of scores of INNOCENT men, women and children.

To this very day, 12 years later, not one Federal agent has spent time in prison.

It is unforgiveable. However, we can all be rest assured that God is waiting for the MURDERERS who have hidden behind a badge.

[Fierce Allegiance]

ASTM A36 is a steel specification.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Yet the FBI insists that it did no such thing.

The FLIR Project analyzes Forward-Looking Infrared imagery taken of the scene and proves that they did. The fact that John Danforth said it didn't will be the thing that sends him to Hell.

I can burn a copy of The F.L.I.R. Project to VCD for you if you want.

You might be able to play it on a newer DVD player, but you would probably have to play it on your computer.

[Arrowhead1952]

Five posts so far. Will see what happens.

[oldenuff2no]

Remember Ruby Ridge? That all started over one eighth of an inch. A shotgun barrel had bee cut off and the feds claimed it was 1/8th of an inch too short. For that 1/8th inch the feds set out to ambush and kill a family.
How brave they were to shoot a teenager in the back and his unarmed mother standing in an open doorway while she was holding an infant in her arms.
These are facts that were documented in federal court.
Where are the Murder Charges?????
How many years would you get if you shot an unarmed woman standing in an open doorway, holding open the screen door while holding an infant? Her whole body was in plain view there was no way that she could have been concealing a weapon.
Also documented in court is the facts that the feds lied about how the teenage boy was killed. The physical evidence did not match their story. He was shot in the back!!!!!!!
Although the courts found that the feds were negligent in every aspect of this attack, had lied repeatedly under oath, had clearly executed an unarmed woman, and shot a teenager in the back while he was running away from them, NOT ONE PERSON WAS EVER PROSECUTED!!!!!!!!! These are the facts of Ruby ridge. Could it be that Waco was their attempt to change their image? More deaths so the feds and their political leaders could look good.

[eastforker]

If you remember correctly this started on Bush 41's watch, there was much more at stake than some weapons they say they had, find out the real story, I have given some hints but you gotta find it on your own.

[Fierce Allegiance]

I don't see anything trollish. Just a bunch of people standing ready to trash out a new poster. We get way too much of that around here. That is not to say that trashing out true trolls is bad.

[Fierce Allegiance]

Wasn't the same person who shot Weavers wife also at Waco?

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

...What I know about the event was what I saw on TV and read in the paper...

Now you know that the big papers and mainstream tv are professional propagandists on a par with Goebbels.

And Katie Couric is America's affable little Eva Braun.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

Lon Horiuchi.

[tertiary01]

The Clintons never showed any outrage over the fact that so many of their friends had been killed or died misteriously either. You would have thought at least Hillary would have been demanding investigations as to why so many of their "friends" were targeted.

[eastforker]

go here,http://www.saf.org/JFPP13ch3.htm , and take a break, then come back and join us.

[BabsC]

Same killers at Waco as at Ruby Ridge. Never forget either.

[speed_addiction]

I can burn a copy of The F.L.I.R. Project to VCD for you if you want.

I would appreciate that. Tell you what, I have a video I put together. A timeline from the first plan hitting the tower to the Marines kicking ass in Fallujah. It is a large (64 Meg) video and I can't get it hosted anywhere. You send me that, I will burn a copy of my video for you.

I'll FreepMail you my address.

[darbymcgill]

Does anyone know where I can find a copy of the testimony by the FBI agents and the Ruby Ridge senate hearings? I was watching them on CSPAN and I know I heard a gross contradiction, but I've never been able to find a transcript of the verbatims.

[Luke]

WACO proved that the BATF employed senior personnel that other law enforcement agencies would have rejected in a command position. BATF is, in my opinion, a waste of resources that professional law enforcement agencies badly need.

Almost every state has its own special agency of alcohol/tobacco/firearms or a similar investigative agency that in effect duplicates the same investigative resources of BATF. I had rather my taxes go to my state's ATF ...than an organization that has such a poor reputation as the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

If a United States Coast Guard vessel had produced a similar seagoing result as BATF did at WACO; there is no doubt in my mind that the captain of that vessel would be in Federal prison or his career forever ruined to the point of discharge or early retirement and that vessel’s crew transferred to the four winds where they would be looked upon with a jaundiced eye. The legacy of BATF is WACO …and the reason it should be disbanded.

[BabsC]

The State wanted to try Lon Horiuchi(sp) but the Feds blocked them. He was at Waco also. I guess once you get away with killing women and children it's easier the second time.