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OKC Bombing Al Qaida Linked
NewsMax ^ | 4/17/05 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 04/17/2005 12:09:59 PM PDT by wagglebee

Bombshell new evidence ignored by the FBI suggests a link between the Oklahoma City bombing and the man who masterminded the first World Trade Center bombing and who later drew up the blueprint for the 9/11 attacks, Fox News Channel's Rita Cosby is set to report Sunday night.

"It's amazing to me that not more has been made of those phone records,” Oklahoma City attorney Michael Johnston tells Cosby, for her tenth anniversary special on the 1995 attack. The explosive new evidence shows that OKC bombing co-conspirator Terry Nichols repeatedly called a boarding house in [the Philippines'] Cebu City, an establishment that has been linked to al Qaida Twin Tower bomber Ramzi Yousef.

The same kind of ANFO fertilizer fuel bomb was used in that attack and the one two years later that destroyed the Alfred P. Murrah building.

Additional phone records dismissed by earlier investigations show that repeated calls were made from Terry Nichols' home to a place called Star Glad Lumber in the Philippines.

"Star Glad Lumber is operated by a man whose brother and cousin were both notorious terrorists, splinter groups of the Abu Sayyaf terror group in the Philippines,” Johnston tells Cosby.

After Yousef's Philippine bomb factory was uncovered in February 1995, Philippine police discovered three versions of the 9/11 plot on his laptop computer.

In one formulation, Yousef intended to plant bombs on 12 U.S. airliners flying over the Pacific, with each bomb to be detonated simultaneously.

A second variation involved bombing planes over U.S. territory.

A third version of the plans discovered on Yousef's computer envisioned hijacking multiple airliners in the U.S. and crashing them into national landmarks. The World Trade Center and Pentagon were mentioned specifically.

Investigators say that after his capture, Yousef's uncle, Khalid Sheik Mohammed, took the plans and presented them to Osama bin Laden, who decided in finance the third version.

Cosby's special report will also delve into claims made by Yousef's al Qaida partner in the Philippines, Abdul Hakim Murad - who was captured on the spot after Yousef fled.

On the morning of April 19, 1995 - the day of the OKC blast - Murad reportedly told a guard at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York City where he was being held that he and Yousef were behind the attack.

Reporting for Insight Magazine in 2002, investigative journalist Kenneth Timmerman detailed the episode:

"Lt. Philip Rojas, a prison guard, asked Murad what he thought [about the blast] and found his response so startling that he informed his superiors. They, in turn, called the FBI.

"Special Agents Francis J. Pellegrino and Brian G. Parr arrived later that morning, within hours after the Oklahoma City blast. 'Murad responded to the guard's question by stating that the Liberation Army was responsible for the bombing,' they reported in a witness report. 'A short time later, Murad passed a note to the guard, again claiming that the Liberation Army was responsible for the bombing in Oklahoma City.'"

Timmerman said that the "Liberation Army" was a fictitious organization used as a code by Yousef, and other al Qaida members "whenever they are making announcements" of responsibility for terrorist attacks.

Tune in to the Fox News Channel, Sunday, 9 p.m. ET, for Rita Cosby's special report: "The Oklahoma City Bombing: Unanswered Questions."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaida; clinton; conspiracy; fbi; jihadinamerica; kennethtimmerman; murrahbuilding; okcbombing; oklahomacitybombing; osamabinladen; terrorism; terrynichols; timothymcveigh; wtcattack
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To: Drango
Flat erthers love this stuff.

Or in other words, "Look away, nothing going on here, go about your business, this doesn't concern you, all is well"

101 posted on 04/18/2005 7:01:25 AM PDT by A. Patriot
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To: wagglebee
I was watching Fox News story on this last night. They report that Tim was going to go after Janet Rino first. Tim never have his priorities straight.
102 posted on 04/18/2005 7:05:38 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
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103 posted on 04/18/2005 7:06:09 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (Do not feed the trolls. Keep windows closed at all times while inside the park.)
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To: bmwcyle

I always had a suspicion that Reno provided some "special services" in the Oval Office.


104 posted on 04/18/2005 7:08:42 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Yes she mixed the cocktails.


105 posted on 04/18/2005 7:11:33 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: bmwcyle

Perhaps she prepared the nondisclosure agreements for the ladies to sign upon leaving, and maybe a "scholarly" legal opinion that what just occured was not even sex much less rape.


106 posted on 04/18/2005 7:15:05 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Or she warned them that if they talked the next person they were having sex with was her.


107 posted on 04/18/2005 7:17:15 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: Smokin' Joe; thinden; Shermy
"MY ONLY QUESTION: HOW MUCH DID THEY PAY HIM???"

In my opinion, the answer to that question might be found in the Oil For Food scandal. Remember, he pardoned Marc Rich; Marc Rich's name has turned up in several places in the OFF scandal. He also was enormously "friendly" with Marc Rich's wife (rumor had it that they were VERY "friendly"), and I would bet money from the OFF was funneled into Clinton's private accounts (and the "missus'" campaign accounts) through Mrs. Rich.

108 posted on 04/18/2005 8:17:56 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: wagglebee
Studded leather and a cat 'o 9 tails?

"Now Billy, you've been a bad boy...."

109 posted on 04/18/2005 8:47:59 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: PFKEY

The prgram aired as scheduled; I watched a replay at midnight (or was it 1AM?). Interestingly, if the entire story had been only at NewsMax yet many credible questions were raised, would you dismiss all out of hand just because it came from NewsMax?


110 posted on 04/18/2005 9:40:32 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: piasa

Excellent post.


111 posted on 04/18/2005 1:22:21 PM PDT by Oorang (How do you tell when you're out of invisible ink?)
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To: MHGinTN; PFKEY; Lazamataz
"Interestingly, if the entire story had been only at NewsMax yet many credible questions were raised, would you dismiss all out of hand just because it came from NewsMax?"

Indeed, one wonders what source would be acceptable? Associated Press, perhaps? No, wait, they reported the fake "100 families held hostage in Iraq" story. CBS, maybe? Woops, too many false documents. New York Times? Uh oh, plagiarism and faked stories there, too. Ah, irony....it's so ironic! (Borrowed from Lazamataz.)

112 posted on 04/18/2005 1:44:41 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: MizSterious

Well, as Hallmark says, "When you care enough to plagarize the very best ..."


113 posted on 04/18/2005 2:51:40 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Fedora
Thanks for the links.

Not claiming credit for your dirty work makes Al Qaeda pretty inept at being a terrorist organization. Which is definitely a good thing.
114 posted on 04/18/2005 5:12:30 PM PDT by vezke
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To: piasa
"Al Qaeda's "job" is to terrorize the people into accepting their political ideology." -Vezke

Where'd you get that idea?

It's what terrorists have always done. Terrorism by definition.

ter·ror·ism
n.

The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

If they're trying to kill us off then they better try harder. They're Kill:Death ratio isnt very good. They're the equivalent of some rock throwing arabs to our military.

I dont really think out-killing us is their intent. If it is then we dont have much to fear. Famous last words? Hope not :-P

The liberals will do more to destroy this country than Al Qaeda ever will.

115 posted on 04/18/2005 5:36:38 PM PDT by vezke
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To: ovrtaxt

Thanks, ot. I watched Rita's special last night. IMHO, FOB still roam the halls of the FBI.


116 posted on 04/18/2005 6:28:51 PM PDT by auboy (Snap to, spineless RINOs. Even Barney Fyffe had one bullet.)
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To: vezke
This part of the definition you quote gets at something I was going to say in my reply, so I'll build on it:

The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

If we factor in the "political reasons" aspect of the equation, beyond its specifically "terror"-related goal of spreading fear and panic among civilians, Al Qaeda has political goals aimed at influencing US government policy. The former goal might be defined as one of AQ's propaganda goals: to influence public opinion and behavior by instilling fear and panic in the civilian population. But on the second, political level, beyond instilling terror in US civilians, AQ also seeks to influence the US government's foreign policy in Islamic parts of the Middle East, Africa, and SE Asia; as well as to influence the US government's domestic policy as it relates to, for instance, federal investigation of terrorist groups. To achieve these political goals, one of AQ's tactics is to attack US embassies and other "soft targets" abroad, which has the effect not only of terrorizing government workers but also of pressuring government officials to the effect that unless the US government changes its foreign policy to suit the terrorists' demands there will be more attacks. The attack on the OKC Federal Building was similar to an embassy attack, only in this case the attack was not on government workers abroad but on government workers at home. Short of direct evidence obtained by surveillance or confession we can only infer the intent of the attack, but at least one effect was that the Clinton administration changed its policy towards investigating Islamic terrorism--as quoted above, "someone in Washington called the FBI in Oklahoma City and issued a two-word directive on its investigation into Islamic terrorism: 'Kill it.'" I think AQ's goals include this type of government intimidation in addition to spreading terror among civilians.

117 posted on 04/18/2005 6:29:15 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: chiller
have thought this for a long time. We have a friend who was born in Iran and came here as a child. He lives in OK city and at the time of the bombing, he was afraid to leave his house. He called us talking about Islamic Terror cells. We thought he was losing it.

Remember "swarthy" John Doe Number 2?

My ex husband has a high level security and I was always asking him and his co workers if there was an Islamic connection to OK City, and they generally thought there was.

Nic Berg met Mousoui (sp) in OK City.

A lot of threads.
118 posted on 04/18/2005 10:12:08 PM PDT by occutegirl (George III did not like Minutemen either.)
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To: mommadooo3
It's a REAL shame that OKCSubmariner is no longer here. His presentation of info was truly DAMNING of klintler. WHY was he run off? (it happened during one of my 'net-less periods) Does anyone have a way to personally contact him?

You may want to try one of the anti-Freeper sites and ask around. Just be careful, there's plenty of bitterness there. Good way to get cancer, if you ask me.

119 posted on 04/19/2005 3:28:54 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (...a sheep in wolf's clothing)
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To: MizSterious

thanx for the ping.

lot of memories rekindled today.


120 posted on 04/19/2005 7:23:36 AM PDT by thinden
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