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OKC Bombing Al Qaida Linked
NewsMax ^ | 4/17/05 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 04/17/2005 12:09:59 PM PDT by wagglebee

Bombshell new evidence ignored by the FBI suggests a link between the Oklahoma City bombing and the man who masterminded the first World Trade Center bombing and who later drew up the blueprint for the 9/11 attacks, Fox News Channel's Rita Cosby is set to report Sunday night.

"It's amazing to me that not more has been made of those phone records,” Oklahoma City attorney Michael Johnston tells Cosby, for her tenth anniversary special on the 1995 attack. The explosive new evidence shows that OKC bombing co-conspirator Terry Nichols repeatedly called a boarding house in [the Philippines'] Cebu City, an establishment that has been linked to al Qaida Twin Tower bomber Ramzi Yousef.

The same kind of ANFO fertilizer fuel bomb was used in that attack and the one two years later that destroyed the Alfred P. Murrah building.

Additional phone records dismissed by earlier investigations show that repeated calls were made from Terry Nichols' home to a place called Star Glad Lumber in the Philippines.

"Star Glad Lumber is operated by a man whose brother and cousin were both notorious terrorists, splinter groups of the Abu Sayyaf terror group in the Philippines,” Johnston tells Cosby.

After Yousef's Philippine bomb factory was uncovered in February 1995, Philippine police discovered three versions of the 9/11 plot on his laptop computer.

In one formulation, Yousef intended to plant bombs on 12 U.S. airliners flying over the Pacific, with each bomb to be detonated simultaneously.

A second variation involved bombing planes over U.S. territory.

A third version of the plans discovered on Yousef's computer envisioned hijacking multiple airliners in the U.S. and crashing them into national landmarks. The World Trade Center and Pentagon were mentioned specifically.

Investigators say that after his capture, Yousef's uncle, Khalid Sheik Mohammed, took the plans and presented them to Osama bin Laden, who decided in finance the third version.

Cosby's special report will also delve into claims made by Yousef's al Qaida partner in the Philippines, Abdul Hakim Murad - who was captured on the spot after Yousef fled.

On the morning of April 19, 1995 - the day of the OKC blast - Murad reportedly told a guard at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York City where he was being held that he and Yousef were behind the attack.

Reporting for Insight Magazine in 2002, investigative journalist Kenneth Timmerman detailed the episode:

"Lt. Philip Rojas, a prison guard, asked Murad what he thought [about the blast] and found his response so startling that he informed his superiors. They, in turn, called the FBI.

"Special Agents Francis J. Pellegrino and Brian G. Parr arrived later that morning, within hours after the Oklahoma City blast. 'Murad responded to the guard's question by stating that the Liberation Army was responsible for the bombing,' they reported in a witness report. 'A short time later, Murad passed a note to the guard, again claiming that the Liberation Army was responsible for the bombing in Oklahoma City.'"

Timmerman said that the "Liberation Army" was a fictitious organization used as a code by Yousef, and other al Qaida members "whenever they are making announcements" of responsibility for terrorist attacks.

Tune in to the Fox News Channel, Sunday, 9 p.m. ET, for Rita Cosby's special report: "The Oklahoma City Bombing: Unanswered Questions."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaida; clinton; conspiracy; fbi; jihadinamerica; kennethtimmerman; murrahbuilding; okcbombing; oklahomacitybombing; osamabinladen; terrorism; terrynichols; timothymcveigh; wtcattack
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To: samtheman

Add this to the Richard Jewell persecution by the FBI.


61 posted on 04/17/2005 1:58:25 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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Ping to self for later reading.


62 posted on 04/17/2005 2:02:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: Joe Boucher
There has been "funny stuff" going on in the FBI since the days of J'edger.

What about the Hillary FBI files? We never seemed to get to the bottom of that either.

63 posted on 04/17/2005 2:03:07 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Don't Tread on Me; Live Free or Die)
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To: wagglebee

I suspect that it will be at least a full generation before the Clinton apologists, defenders and conspirators pass from the scene. Maybe then some real historian (not the likes of those in the media today, Goodwin, Bechloss (sp?) et al) will uncover and present the truth, not only about the Oklahoma City bombing, but about the disaster of Flight 800, as well.


64 posted on 04/17/2005 2:08:42 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: wagglebee

You know...I have always been amazed how fast McVeigh was put to death! It usually takes forever but not in this case.
Anybody else think that was strange?


65 posted on 04/17/2005 2:45:21 PM PDT by Cricket24 ("We have met the enemy and it's the U.S. press (and the democrats)!")
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To: backhoe; piasa; Calpernia

Ping.


66 posted on 04/17/2005 2:48:31 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Plutarch
The proprietor of Star Glad Lumber is not the terrorist, only his brother and cousin. Just because he was calling a Lumber store in the Philippines whose owner just happens to have notorious terrorists as brothers doesn't prove anything. Why, most of us probably telephone plenty of stores halfway round the world in terrorist hot spots.

I know I'd call Cebu City, Philipines to price two sheets of plywood and a bag of 3 penny nails.
67 posted on 04/17/2005 2:56:11 PM PDT by seowulf
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To: CDHart
None of this is new -- why all of a sudden is there so much interest in it?

10 year anniversary
68 posted on 04/17/2005 2:58:44 PM PDT by seowulf
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To: wagglebee

Thanks. I hope this will be developed further than the Kennedy Assassination, with its rumors, innuendos and a complete lack of conclusion for many of us.

But then, why should we need explanations? We just pay the bills. /sarcasm


69 posted on 04/17/2005 3:01:37 PM PDT by wizr (Freedom ain't free.)
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To: samtheman
Good afternoon.
"You can't just blame Clinton...there is something deeply and severly rotten in the FBI."

Remember that bill clinton allowed his arrogant and incompetent socialist stooges to replace bureaucrats throughout the government and military with fellow travelers. The FBI and ATF stooges gave us Ruby Ridge, Waco, the World Trade Center bombing and the Murrah Building. The military stooges were generals like Weasely Clarke, Shinseki and that Air Force guy who supported john kerry.

Ultimately, clinton and crew gave us September 11, 2001 and the WOT.

Michael Frazier
70 posted on 04/17/2005 3:13:50 PM PDT by brazzaville (No surrender,no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: samtheman; piasa; Shermy; Calpernia; windchime; Tailgunner Joe

My understanding is it went downhill after William Webster left and the Bureau became increasingly dominated by the policies of DoJ. A lot of good career agents were squeezed out when the Bureau started implementing the same politically-correct hiring and promotion policies as other parts of the federal goverment.


71 posted on 04/17/2005 3:15:30 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

I remmber at the time Clinton administration did not want to make waves with the mistery man... instead they focused on the evil white man with the NRA propensities. OKC has OBL fingerprints all over it... I guess when they saw nothing was being done why point the finger to yourself?


72 posted on 04/17/2005 3:18:35 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: wagglebee; All
Can anybody tell me the point of being involved in a bombing that nobody knows your an accomplice to? Especially Al Qaeda.

Al Qaeda's "job" is to terrorize the people into accepting their political ideology. They lack the means to force people into accepting their beliefs. Like the Soviets would do when they invaded countries and instituted communism. So they blow up a building or plane here and there. Which in and of itself isnt going to do much of anything to bring a country to its knees. Especially one as powerful as ours.

So all terrorists have is the fear of being one of Al Qaeda's indiscriminate victims. They hope that this will make you succumb to their beliefs.

Why would Al Qaeda put themselves at risk to be involved in a bombing no one knows they were a part of? It doesnt instill fear of Al Qaeda if we dont know they did it. And blowing up a building doesnt do much stop the American superpower.

73 posted on 04/17/2005 3:49:47 PM PDT by vezke
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To: Cinnamon; philman_36; backhoe; piasa
Yes. Some prior threads with some interesting information on that:

U.S. Secretly Detained bin Laden Brother-in-Law For Four Months (Gorelick and OKC Blast mentioned)

The U.S. government secretly detained Osama bin Laden's brother-in-law for four months in 1995, after the INS announced he had already been deported to Jordan, according to documents obtained by INTELWIRE using the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

The Jordan deportation was authorized by then-Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick, at the request of Secretary of State Warren Christopher.

SNIP

Gorelick's role in signing the Jordan deportation letter may have been a routine administrative task, but it raises questions that cannot be answered until the full facts of the case are known. The document does not suggest that Gorelick was responsible for initiating Khalifa's deportation proceedings. The deportation was formally requested by Secretary of State Warren Christopher one day earlier, in a letter to Attorney General Janet Reno obtained by INTELWIRE.

FReeper Research: GORELICK WORKED WITH RICHARD CLARKE! (HHS website transcript)

[From Post 21:] Although Davis does not document Gorelick's role in Oklahoma City, media accounts routinely describe her as the director of the Oklahoma City task force, the so-called "field commander." As Davis has told me, someone in Washington called the FBI in Oklahoma City and issued a two-word directive on its investigation into Islamic terrorism: "Kill it."

If that person is not Jamie Gorelick, perhaps she could tell the 9-11 Commission who it is.

Why FBI missed Islamic threat: Agents: Clinton shifted counterterror efforts

After the bombing of the Oklahoma City federal building, President Clinton made great political hay of the tragedy by drawing parallels between the anti-government extremists behind the plot and the anti-big-government Republican revolution that had swept Congress.

Also, [Robert] Bryant moved FBI counterterrorism analysts over to tracking right-wing groups. He eventually grouped all analysts together at headquarters, putting them under operations staff in what he called the Investigative Support Division, whereupon agents say analysts were constantly being diverted to areas other than their specialty, such as helping in criminal prosecutions.

Around the same time, he moved the bureau's counterterrorism programs under its National Security Division, and "de-emphasized" the bureau's counterintelligence program, agents say.

They say intelligence-gathering on foreign threats suffered as a result.

74 posted on 04/17/2005 3:55:50 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: vezke
Al-Qaeda

Note: Al-Qaeda does not have a habit of taking credit for actions, resulting in a great deal of ambiguity over how many attacks the group has actually conducted.

"Al-Qaeda's Secret Message to America", December 09, 2002

For the first time, Al-Qaeda has claimed credit for a terrorist act.

Till now, they have kept their silence and let their victims figure out as best they could who did it.

75 posted on 04/17/2005 4:10:38 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Reactionary
For what it's worth, www.frontpagemagazine.com did a forum a few months ago with Mylroe and two other AQ/Iraq experts. Mylroe sounded TOTALLY convincing . . . until the other guys presented their evidence, then they sounded pretty convincing too.

Worse for the "conspiracy" case, Peter Lance, who is hardly a Clintonite ("1000 Years For Revenge") reports the OKC/Iraq/AQ connection, but concludes that most of the links were tenuous at best and that there is no hard evidence that there is a connection. Now, this guy has connected the dots on EVERYTHING, so if he isn't ready to jump, there must be some serious weaknesses still out there.

And I agree Padilla looks like John Doe #2, and that Nichols/McVeigh were NOT supposed to have had enough expertise to make the bomb. Yet McVeigh went to his death repeating his story that there were no other outsiders, and that's the same story Nichols sticks to; and that's the same conclusion that four juries (two grand juries and two petite juries) in two different states came to.

76 posted on 04/17/2005 4:12:05 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: Fedora

Links copied & saved- thanks, if I had them, they got lost.


77 posted on 04/17/2005 4:45:47 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: wagglebee
Tune in to the Fox News Channel, Sunday, 9 p.m. ET, for Rita Cosby's special report: "The Oklahoma City Bombing: Unanswered Questions."

I wish they'd rotate Rita back to working behind the scenes. Her voice and her vacuousness drive me bonkers. I'll wait for a print version of the info.

78 posted on 04/17/2005 4:48:58 PM PDT by GretchenM (Darwin's *theory* of evolution flamed Hitler's all-too-real eugenics.)
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To: martin_fierro
Flat erthers love this stuff


79 posted on 04/17/2005 4:51:38 PM PDT by Drango (tag line under repair)
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To: GretchenM

I'm with you, I can't stand her. I'll wait until the morning and read the transcripts.


80 posted on 04/17/2005 4:56:47 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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