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Why VERY INTELLIGENT Men Fail With Women
bullz-eye.com ^ | 04/07/05 | by: David DeAngelo, Author of "Double Your Dating"

Posted on 04/10/2005 3:32:35 PM PDT by paltz

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To: Huntress

I'm a woman who has been attracted lately to "bad boys."
It isn't so much that they are a turn-on, but that a couple of the "nice guys" I've gone with turned out to be smarmy pretending sociopaths who hadn't a sincere word or facial expression in their repertoire. Everything nice they said or did was about manipulation, and when they did eventually let down their masks (after a few drinks, or when circumstances didn't go their way, such as a clueless person taking too much time while using the ATM ahead of him) I saw such selfish, profane, ugly, dangerous, hatefilled EVIL that I was paralyzed with shock. I do not trust my own judgement to know what is really nice and what is just a sick act.
You get what you see with a mildly bad boy - no pretense, no hidden emotional or mental rot, no calculated manipulation.

My advice: Be yourself. Don't be a stranger to the guy in the mirror just so you can play games. YOU will always lose, even if the guy you are pretending to be gets laid once or twice.


81 posted on 04/10/2005 4:54:23 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Huntress
So true. Relationships require compromise. The unwilling stay lonely, or move from on to the next, never admitting their own character defects to the other, even when to do so would benefit the relationship. Pride goes before the fall.
82 posted on 04/10/2005 4:54:57 PM PDT by Concentrate
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To: Concentrate

I'm an old married man, married more than a quarter century now, so dating and pleasing women isn't something that's a priority for me, but for any male anywhere, it's always better to be seen as pleasing to the other sex than not.

Looks and money are important to a lot of females. I'm amazed by this baloney that women don't use their eyes as much as men do. Men, just walk into a restaurant with a tall good looking fellow as your dinner companion sometime and watch the female clerks and waitresses get absolutely tongue tied and slobber eyed over him. One young lady made such a fool out of herself with a buddy of mine the other day that I unknowingly snickered at her.

There's no sure way to land a woman. It's one of the most frustrating and complicated things in the world for a reason. There's a lot at stake for both parties. There's no surefire way to measure chemistry and compatibility and stereotypes aside, women do look for a lot of things when choosing a man. The best ones I've seen are the old fashioned types. I married one of those. Even when getting along with the cosmopolitans in the workplace or wherever, you know you wouldn't want to live with one.

Somebody said it. The last half of the twentieth century damaged relationships between the sexes tremendously. My kids have all paired up pretty well. Perhaps with the deaths of a few more members of my own Baby Boom generation, things will become more as they were before feminism became such an entrenched philosophy and societal curse.

But as far as this so-called expert and his tips and website: I know that when the time is right and it's the right person, you can't do it wrong. I've seen some of the world's great sad sacks find happiness when that one magical person appears.

The other day, I was at a seminar and a woman of similar age and myself were drawn together by that unexplainable magnetism. Of course, we were both married and knew nothing was going to come of it. But to look into each other's eyes and greet each other with "If only..." is a refreshing thing now and then. It never hurts to feel attractive for a few moments.

Of course, my wife had about a dozen propositions at her last high school reunion. Next time I'm going with her.


83 posted on 04/10/2005 4:57:04 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Huntress
The worst part of it is that he doesn't seem to realize that it's his own behavior that causing his problems. According to him, it's always someone else's fault.

I have a friend who's the same way. His ego will not permit him to admit it. OTOH, he's the kind of guy who'll be watching your back when the excrement hits the ventilation, which is why I put up with his other behavior

You can't control what the other person does. The only person you can control is yourself

84 posted on 04/10/2005 4:57:17 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (What does the wolf care how many sheep there be?)
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To: paltz
REASON #6: THEY FOCUS ON LOGIC INSTEAD OF EMOTION

And top that off with being given FALSE information, and the men are driven crazy with the illogical actions of women.

85 posted on 04/10/2005 4:58:41 PM PDT by SengirV
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To: Huntress; All
I think you are right.

Women who fall for a guy that turns into a jackass tries to rationalize his failings.

Let's face it, people in general are scaredtobe alone. Both men and women will put up with a lot of BS simply because they don't want to be alone.

My problems with relationships have nothing in common with this article but I noticed that this post got a lot of replies in a very short time.

I suggest this means two things.

1/ A lot of Freepers consider themselves brilliant.

2/ A lot of Freepers have problems with women.

Like a book will help, LOL! Welcome to reality ladies and gentleman.

Arioch7 out!

86 posted on 04/10/2005 4:59:44 PM PDT by Arioch7
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To: paltz; aculeus; dighton; martin_fierro; Lijahsbubbe
If you were going to be walking across Africa on foot, would you rather have your guide be the guy on this planet with the highest I.Q., or a caveman who lived a million years ago that had an I.Q. of about 50... but who grew up being chased by lions and all kinds of animals that wanted to eat him all his life?

I stopped reading right there. What does it matter? Both the person with the high IQ AND the caveman will have the sense to outrun you. One of the choices should have been to question the need to walk across Africa. If that doesn't work at least select a handicapped caveman. :-)

87 posted on 04/10/2005 4:59:54 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Arioch7
That would be "scared to be alone".

My keyboard is sticking.

88 posted on 04/10/2005 5:01:25 PM PDT by Arioch7
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To: paltz

The solution is to use your smarts to make money -- THAT attracts women like bees on honey.


89 posted on 04/10/2005 5:01:31 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: paltz

I can explain it more simply. Smart kids are generally treated poorly by their peers from an early age. This generates an inferiority complex and social awkwardness that lasts into adulthood. Many women can sense this lack of self esteem and social experience and are repelled by it.


90 posted on 04/10/2005 5:01:39 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Luke21
I know that when the time is right and it's the right person, you can't do it wrong. I've seen some of the world's great sad sacks find happiness when that one magical person appears.

Yup. But unfortunately, the right person for me didn't live long enough.

91 posted on 04/10/2005 5:03:42 PM PDT by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: SauronOfMordor
You can't control what the other person does.
well.....

92 posted on 04/10/2005 5:03:51 PM PDT by hookman
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To: Huntress

I once said to a date that "women like dicks", meaning jerks -- and got agreement with a big laugh.


93 posted on 04/10/2005 5:04:41 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: HitmanNY

It's also about exclusivity. No woman wants you to have a family on the side. This is womens' territory! Even Lesbians demand exclusivity. It's hard-wired DNA commands.


94 posted on 04/10/2005 5:04:54 PM PDT by Concentrate
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To: Tall_Texan
What's next? Condom ads? Visectomy Reversal?

Close, i was just about to post my Penis Enlargment pills i developed.

95 posted on 04/10/2005 5:06:51 PM PDT by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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To: LisaMalia
...sometimes I feel like I'm Eliza and he's Henry Higgins...:)

Isn't that "enry iggins"? Luckily, I have my wife, who puts me through enormous trials and struggles with her balance of logic and emotion, whom He granted me to balance my logic and most times, lack of emotion. Men/women....such a delicate yet powerful balance. Who knew?

Hi Mary.

FMCDH(BITS)

96 posted on 04/10/2005 5:07:07 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: sauropod; hellinahandcart
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken ;-).

Why am I not surprised to find you posting here?

97 posted on 04/10/2005 5:08:24 PM PDT by Dutchgirl ([Atheists] may not recognize God but God recognizes them--Newt Gingrich)
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To: paltz
Why VERY INTELLIGENT Men Fail With Women

Intelligent men don't fail with women
98 posted on 04/10/2005 5:10:52 PM PDT by Vision (When Hillary Says She's Going To Put The Military On Our Borders...She Becomes Our Next President)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I thought your were going to say your HUGE number of blank lines.


99 posted on 04/10/2005 5:11:27 PM PDT by mhx
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To: expatpat
The solution is to use your smarts to make money -- THAT attracts women like bees on honey.

Yes, yes it does!
100 posted on 04/10/2005 5:11:34 PM PDT by hookman
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