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Time to part company
myself | 4/1/05 | hchutch

Posted on 04/01/2005 2:39:59 PM PST by hchutch

Six months ago, Free Republic was riding high, and I was proud to be a part of it. It was coming off having blown the cover off of Dan Rather’s use of forged memos against the President. The President was well on his way to winning re-election. It was a great time to be a Freeper.

However, things have changed. It started with the justifiable removal of ALIPAC. I supported that move by Jim Robinson, but the ugliness directed towards Alberto Gonzales. He was accused of everything under the sun, and Senator Mel Martinez was viciously attacked for speaking Spanish on the Senate floor. The tone and outright viciousness (terms like FROBL and traitor were fired off at anyone who did not toe the line established by Michelle Malkin and Tom Tancredo) on immigration threads had concerned me, but I had concluded it was an isolated incident. After ALIPAC was removed from FR, I had hoped the tone there would improve. But it only got worse. I was point-blank called a traitor because my views on immigration differ from those of Michelle Malkin’s groupies. On immigration threads, questioning the questionable is not allowed. One must accept the unacceptable and allow folks to defend the indefensible. Never mind that VDARE, American Renaissance, and other sites are racist or have no problem hanging out with those that are racists (I’m just going to call a spade a spade here).

There were folks who had the long knives out for Senator Rick Santorum, one of the strongest pro-life members of the United States Senate. Why? Because he endorsed Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey. It was stunning to see these long knives out for a conservative. And all it would accomplish would be his replacement by a Democrat. How in the world replacing Rick Santorum with a Democrat would aid conservatism is beyond me, but it was demanded because Santorum endorsed Specter. The long knives were out, and I suppose it was a sign of what was to come.

The whole Terri Schiavo case has changed everything for me. A mob mentality took over the first few days after the order to pull the tube was given. Anyone who did not toe the line was attacked. I saw a dedicated active-duty member of our armed forces called a “Maine liberal” for simply asking why troops in harm’s way did not get the same sort of “all-nighter” attention that Terri Schiavo got. It was a reasonable question – we have 40-year-old P-3s still out there. We have a war on terrorism still going on, in case folks have not noticed. We have to get Social Security fixed. I say this as a person who believes that at best, Michael Schiavo’s relationship with a woman (and having two kids with her) meant he had a conflict of interest – and that he had decided that Terri was inconvenient. I cannot take his word alone that Terri would have wanted this. I also believe that George Felos is a supporter of euthanasia, and that he is using this case for his own ends. Those folks give me the creeps, and I think that Jim Robinson was on the right side of this issue. However, I also got a very bad feeling when the Schindlers embraced the likes of Randall Terry and Bo Gritz. I had to wonder what has happened to the conservative movement when the threads were allowed to spiral so out of control. The concept of euthanasia is repulsive and disgusting, but it does not excuse allowing the threads to spin out of control.

I have seen the President of the United States, George W. Bush, and the Governor of Florida, John Ellis Bush, take huge political risks in an effort to save Terri’s life. I believe they were doing their best to do the right thing, and that the original law passed in 2003 was a reasonable one that was wrongly stuck down by Judge Greer and the Florida Supreme Court. I think that the Republican Party has taken a huge risk to give Terri a chance at life, and I am disgusted with those who seek a pretext that will justify leaving the GOP in the lurch. I’m sick of the way the Terri threads spun out of control, and the vicious attacks launched at reasonable people who came to a different conclusions about the situation or who pointed out facts that certain people found inconvenient. This is not what I signed on here for.

I believe in a strong national defense, cutting taxes, and in general trying to keep government involvement as minimal as possible (there are times when the best one can do is to limit government involvement in a situation). I am pro-life (with exceptions for rape, incest, and to protect the life of the mother) and pro-Second Amendment. However, I do NOT want the federal government to be involved in any culture war. “Culture” was never mentioned in the constitution, thus I believe it is left to the States or TO THE PEOPLE (see the Tenth Amendment). I do NOT think immigration is a problem, but I believe some mistakes were made along the way (like eliminating the bracero program). I also think that the President of the United States has proposed a sensible plan that will go a long way towards solving the problems on our border with Mexico and do much to alleviate the problems surrounding illegal immigration. Therefore, I have come to the conclusion that it is time for me and Free Republic to part company, because Free Republic has left this limited-government neoconservative. In the process of Free Republic leaving me, I now find that I fear the social conservatives as much as I fear the loony left. As a result of coming to this conclusion, I ask that my account be deleted and all posts I have made, save for this opus and the ping to my friends be removed.

I do this with regret, since I will miss some of those who I have met here, but I feel no other choice. So long.


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To: hchutch
We really apologize for not agreeing with you all the time.

Please stay and we'll do better.

Just make your point on any thread, and we'll all bend to accommodate you.

Once again, we're very sorry to have offended you.
501 posted on 04/01/2005 9:11:37 PM PST by AlGone2001 (You will never know that Jesus is all you need, until Jesus is all you've got-Mother Theresa)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
In the spirit of saying something positive or nothing at all: you are persistant and creative in your approaches.

Has this helped you increase your car-sales rate?

502 posted on 04/01/2005 9:18:46 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham; Nik Naym; Jokelahoma
Wanna see something funny and kind of interesting, brohamie? Old PRODIGY CHAT political room discussions. Archivist that I sometimes am, I saved a few files. Some things really never change.

October 9, 1996 (this was the night of the VP debate between Kemp and Gore)

March 29, 1997

April 11, 1997

April 14, 1997

April 23, 1997

503 posted on 04/01/2005 9:23:13 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: arasina
Prodigy...

That's a blast from the past. I used to post on the sports boards there............when I was 13-14.

504 posted on 04/01/2005 9:31:35 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Mama, take this judgeship off of Greer, he can't use it, anymore")
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To: arasina

Kemp and Gore? Gosh, I got here late!


505 posted on 04/01/2005 9:33:09 PM PST by Howlin
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To: A CA Guy

No need to 'rip out' the tube. He'll be daintily sneaking around here again.


506 posted on 04/01/2005 9:33:13 PM PST by BobS
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Another a$$hole with nothing constructive to add to the debate.


507 posted on 04/01/2005 9:38:30 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: arasina; Howlin; Dan from Michigan
GOOFY SCREEN NAMES!

The more things change...

:&)

508 posted on 04/01/2005 9:42:47 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: LisaMalia; Bob J; Liz; Darksheare
Methuselah:

DARN NOOBS!

(Angrily shakes staff at newbies.)

:)

509 posted on 04/01/2005 9:47:14 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
What's goofy about my screen name.......other than it's incredibly boring and uncreative????????????????

(I actually almost changed it a couple of times, but I wanted to keep the 1999 sign up date and credibility)

510 posted on 04/01/2005 9:48:40 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Mama, take this judgeship off of Greer, he can't use it, anymore")
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To: hchutch
As a result of coming to this conclusion, I ask that my account be deleted and all posts I have made, save for this opus and the ping to my friends be removed.

You did fine till you got here FRiend. I'm going to miss your posts but I understand sometimes you have to go your own path. I hope you continue to try and persuade others with your opinions because you are right 95% of the time and a passionate and eloquent spokesman for reasoned logic.

It was nice to have you.

511 posted on 04/01/2005 9:49:45 PM PST by Once-Ler (I'm against vigilantes in the United States of America)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Another a$$hole with nothing constructive to add to the debate.

May the Lord bless you and yours, too. He already blessed me by making sure I'm not you. Shouldering all that bleeding-heart liberalism on behalf of invaders (contrary to Mexican-descendend American citizens I know) must be a difficult load to bear. Believe it or not, Luis, I value your input.

512 posted on 04/01/2005 9:51:59 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: Dan from Michigan
You can change it while still keeping the same account/sign-up date.

All you need to do is send a private message to this site's primary administrator.

513 posted on 04/01/2005 9:53:21 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

LOL!

Methuselah would consider all of us Noobs..
*chuckle*


514 posted on 04/01/2005 9:55:06 PM PST by Darksheare (Then, the villain in black pulled out a vaguely threatening.... coathanger? -Raiders of the Lost Ark)
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To: BobS

I've have no thirst for tube pulling.


515 posted on 04/01/2005 10:13:15 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Liberator

bump


516 posted on 04/01/2005 10:22:29 PM PST by Pelham
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To: A CA Guy
"I've have no thirst for tube pulling."

Understood.

517 posted on 04/01/2005 10:56:41 PM PST by BobS
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To: NewRomeTacitus

BTTT


518 posted on 04/01/2005 11:24:20 PM PST by wardaddy ("Finally!, A Man Worth Killing!")
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To: Walkin Man
I suppose the DU is throwing a party right about now over the massive damage that this case has done to Christians, the right-wing and the repub's.

And they're probably also getting a good laugh over these "I'm leaving" threads.

519 posted on 04/01/2005 11:25:21 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: peyton randolph
Bzzz... Wrong answer. Lurked here since '98.

Or maybe you already wrote your opus and this is your new name.

520 posted on 04/02/2005 12:39:10 AM PST by Once-Ler (I'm against vigilantes in the United States of America)
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