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Iraq's Insurgents 'Seek Exit Strategy'
Financial Times ^ | March 25 2005 | Steve Negus

Posted on 03/25/2005 2:06:57 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

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To: gridlock

Good point. I wonder if the Ft writer realizes that it's the Baathists and Sunnis who had the most access to Saddam's munitions. Zarqawi was not in any position to loot the muntion dumps as the U.S. was advancing on Baghdad. The Baathists and Republican Guard knew the house was coming down and where the goodies to carry on the struggle were located. These are bad guys who have much more deadly stuff than Zarqawi. Let them come completely clean, expose their weapons caches, AND give any info on Zarqawi and his minions and then we can talk about protecting their security.


41 posted on 03/25/2005 3:30:52 PM PST by xkaydet65 (Peace, Love, Brotherhood, and Firepower. And the greatest of these is Firepower!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Sharif Ali Bin al-Hussein and his contacts are full of bull hockey. They had their chance Janurary 31, 2005. They did not take it. And above all never trust a terrorist.


42 posted on 03/25/2005 3:42:22 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: xkaydet65

IMHO Zarqawi is already under lock and key.


43 posted on 03/25/2005 3:44:49 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Michael Moore's Minutemen 'Seek Exit Strategy'.

"The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush?"

44 posted on 03/25/2005 4:14:56 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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45 posted on 03/25/2005 4:18:39 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: telebob

"Stop all attacks against coalition forces. Stop all attacks against civilians. Turn your guns on the jihadis and criminals in your midst. Then we can talk. Otherwise, annihilation"

Turning in, or turning their guns on the foreign jihadis would be a significant demonstration of goodwill.


46 posted on 03/25/2005 4:52:46 PM PST by Owl558 (Please excuse my spelling)
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To: finnman69

Looks like the five mullah's are saying 'not tonight, we all have a headache'.


47 posted on 03/25/2005 7:54:35 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: blackie

Well said!


48 posted on 03/25/2005 7:56:12 PM PST by HangThemHigh (Entropy is not what it used to be.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Insurgent leaders fear coming out into the open to talk for fear of being targeted by US military or Iraqi security forces' raids, he said.

Gee, I can't image why.

Hammorabi
Iraq - 'The Past, Present and Future of the Cradle of Civilization'!
http://hammorabi.blogspot.com/archives/2004_11_01_hammorabi_archive.html

11/10/2004
Al Yarmouk Hospital Attacked!

AlYarmouk Causality Department (ER) is one of the busiest hospitals in Baghdad.
It is attended by many poor and middle class people and the local population.

Following the Fatwa of the 26 Saudi ignorant and illiterate thugs last week the terrorist attacks increased on civilians and service sites every where in Iraq. One of the targets following that Fatwa is the ER department of the Al Yarmouk Hospital.

While the medical staffs were busy treating the injured civilians from the attack on two ancient Churches (Saint Mathew and Saint George Churches) in Baghdad a thug who responding to the devils' fatwa commit a suicidal car attack in the ER department!
The attack resulted in killing some of the hospital staffs, patients, and bypassed civilians turning their bodies into pieces. Part of the ER was damaged leading to transferring the patients and injured to other hospitals.

The car which was used to do this devilish act was stolen police car.

Can any animal in this planet agree with such acts as resistance? The answer is no because the animals are kinder creatures than some of the sub-animals and sub-devilish human being.

Here are some other actions of the thugs that the ignorant fools and low self-esteem dirty cockroaches describe them as resistance to liberate Iraq!:

-Attacking hospitals
-Attacking mosques like what happened to Imam Ali shrine and in Karbala
-Bombing Churches
-Killing Christians, Yazidis, Sabbians, and other Iraqi non-Muslims
-Killing the Iraqi Muslims especially Shias
-Kidnapping & killing workers in humanitarians organisation like for children
-Destroying the Iraqi wealth like the oil pipelines, power and water stations
-Kidnapping & killing hospital doctors, and university lecturers
-Imposing their mentally retarded way of thinking on the people
-Killing the visitors of the shrine of Imam Hussein
-Terrorising women and children

These people and any one support them have nothing to do with Islam and Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) will definitely disown them if he is with us now and he will do so on the Day of Judgment. Their predecessors killed and beheaded his son Hussein!
He taught them before the principles of war is not to attack civilian, not to pull down a Church or a chapel or any other worship places, not to frighten a woman or a child or an elderly, not to damage or destroy a tree, to leave the farmer in his farm and the worker at his work, to treat the wounded and take care of them even if they are from the enemy, to treat the POW humanely and feed them from your food, and so on and so forth!

So, where are these thugs from Prophet Mohammad who when did the dialogue with the Christians of Najran handed them his Mosque to perform their Sunday prayer in it? Where are these thugs from Imam Ali who prayed in a Church and asked his follower to leave it for its own people and not touch it by any harm?

These people are wounded by a slander from and possessed by the devil and when he pushed them to commit their crimes he exonerate himself from it just prior to its final execution.

As it was described by the Holly Quran:


And when Satan made their deeds seem fair to them and said: No one of mankind can conquer you this day, for I am your protector. But when the armies came in sight of one another, he took Sight, saying: Lo! I am guiltless of you. Lo! I see that which ye see not. Lo! I fear Allah. And Allah is severe in punishmen (Quran: 8; 48)

whosoever killeth a human being for other than man slaughter or corruption in the earth , it shall be as if be had killed all mankind , and whoso saveth the life of one , it shall be as if he had : saved the life of all mankind . Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah's sovereignty), but afterwards lo! Many of them became prodigals in the earth. (Quran: 5; 32)

On the other hand there should be no one taken by the deed of another person at all irrespective of the relation between them as we are seeing of kidnapping and killing relatives of other people to put pressure on them yet the victims have nothing to do with that. The Holy Quran said in this:

Each soul earneth only on its own account, nor doth any laden bear another's load. Then unto your Lord is your return and He will tell you that wherein ye differed (Quran: 6; 164)


posted by hammorabi @ 11/10/2004 11:16:48 AM

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49 posted on 03/25/2005 8:08:56 PM PST by Valin (DARE to be average!)
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To: Modok

I LOVE IT!


50 posted on 03/25/2005 8:12:26 PM PST by Valin (DARE to be average!)
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To: pissant
I like the strategy we've been using. Kill the bastards.

..and hang them from the town's square/watering hole.

51 posted on 03/25/2005 8:32:03 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: anonymoussierra

You are very welcome Sara!

Be Ever Vigilant!


53 posted on 03/26/2005 7:21:09 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: HangThemHigh

:):):)


54 posted on 03/26/2005 7:24:44 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: West Coast Conservative; All

Excellent analysis here ...



http://austinbay.net/blog/index.php?p=183


55 posted on 03/26/2005 11:43:58 AM PST by aculeus (Ceci n'est pas une tag line.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

the only good insurgent is a dead insurgent.


56 posted on 03/26/2005 6:09:18 PM PST by printhead
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To: West Coast Conservative

I would prefer to give them an exit wound to exit strategy.


57 posted on 03/26/2005 6:12:19 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: West Coast Conservative
In the middle east, its pretty normal for terrorist groups to join in the political process to some extent.

Usually by scaring the hell out of whoever is in charge of the country.

In other cases, they find different ways to be involved, see Hamas and Hezzbolah.

This is in affect like giving them a pardon and then rewarding them with legitimacy which was gained through violence.

It naturally encourages other groups to turn to terrorism, with the same expectations.

In Iraq, this cycle must be stopped, and the insurgancy, crushed, and the non-iraqi members of it, hunted down, and killed. The iraqi members also need to be punished hard, cooperation and information should be the only carrots offered.

Their are political parties in Iraq, for their to be stability, those insurgants who are not caught, should lay down there weapons, and join the process, the baathists of the past who took part in brutality, need to be eliminated so as to further convince people that disidence without violence is okay, and they can be confident the ways of the old regime will never return.

58 posted on 03/27/2005 9:00:01 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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