Posted on 03/25/2005 5:40:55 AM PST by Zivasmate
THE SCHIAVO STAKES: WHAT THE FIGHT'S REALLY ABOUT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- March 25, 2005 -- THE looming death by starva tion of Terri Schiavo has ex posed yet again the key fault line in American culture. Those who have sided with her parents in seeking the reinsertion of her feeding tube have a view of life that is profoundly different from those who have sided with her husband's quest to have her die. Those who want her to live tend to view life as a gift — a treasure beyond value that has been bestowed upon us and that we therefore have no right to squander. The giver of the gift cannot be seen by the human eye, and the essence of the gift cannot be seen either. We usually call that essence the "soul." Our souls define us: They make us who we are in the deepest sense. And they transcend us as well: They are our connection to the divine, to all in the universe that is unseen and unknowable but is still there. Most religious people share this set of beliefs, which is why those who have pushed hardest to save Schiavo are devout Christians. Many of those who want her to die, by contrast, view life as a natural phenomenon — a collision of egg and sperm that gives rise 280 days later to a baby. That baby is the product of human interaction, deriving genetic information equally from mother and father and recombining it into a new human form. It's a wonder, but it's not a miracle. It's explicable within the laws of nature, and so there isn't anything necessarily transcendent about it. In some sense, then, the human body has a mechanical quality to it.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
It's that last night he said he was losing it emotionally and got to the part where he needed to say her name and couldn't but everyone knew what, and who he was talking about.
I guess he's been thanked from members of other churches because they know he is openingly addressing this issue.
The intent is not only to have her body cremated against the wishes of her family, but furthermore to scatter those ashes up in PA on some Schiavo family property, also (needless to say) in defiance of her family's wishes.
Supposedly, greer has already approved cremation & it is on a fast track to being done immediately after her death.
However, FL statutes are that any cremation MUST be run by the district's medical examiner office and be approved. This approval is given only after the ME office is satisfied that the death is not due to violence or suspicious circumstances, homicide, or suicide. The ME office is meant to cooperate with, but to be totally independent of, any law enforcement or hospitals or courts.
One might conclude that Michael's desire to insult and hurt Terri's family goes far beyond simply causing her death."
BUMPIN' THAT SICK B*STARD ALL OVER TOWN.
AND I BUMP IT AGAIN.
AND I BUMP IT AGAIN. YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
COMPELLING AND CREEPY BUMP!
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TERRI Nurse: Let Me Testify
http://www.Newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/3/25/93355.shtml
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"This can't be equated to Terri's case as some have done...."
Years ago there was a case where some woman left a zillion dollars to her dogs. The will stated that when the dogs had passed away, the remaining trust would be divided among various charities, universities, and long lost distant cousins, whoever.
Here's what happened. The trustees for the dogs spent a ton of money erecting a fortress, guarded by sentries 24-7 to safe guard the little tenants from anyone who might profit from their premature demise. Kennel fire....poisoning....mysterious virus....you get the idea.In addition, You can assume their health care was stirling.
Those who would profit from the dogs demise, hired attorneys to force the dog trustees to erect fences to separate males from females to prevent litters from being born which could extend the care expenses until the trust ran dry.
Remember:
Florida has very large elderly population.
The insurance industry profits when the costs of a person's health care are terminated.
Hospitals and others lose revenue when health insurance money runs out.
And then there's people like Terri's husband and the family of the boxer in
"Million Dollar Baby".It's been said before...follow the money.
Watch "Judgment at Nuremberg" again....then over the weekend, watch the scene in The Passion of Christ, where someone breaks the rules and risks arrest by offering a condemned to die by the courts Christ,...a drink of water.
BUMPIN' IT AGAIN. SOMEONE GO AHEAD AND *SUE* ME.
" Those of you who wish to punish Florida for the actions of one Democrat, I sincerely hope you stay in your own sorry states. Most of us in the state are "conservative" if that counts, though I gather from this morning's remarks that many of you don't care. "
But you are represented to the world by a laughingstock liberal supreme court and the "faminizer," killer George Greer, who was re-elected just last year. Are you doing enough to correct these failures, or are you hanging back, waiting for everyone else to fix the problem?
They have gone a long way toward ruining our great country. May they fail in all the rest of their endeavors.
What state is this pastor in?
I suspect that many pastors do not even know about this horror.
NO!! How is this all happening??
Like the Divine whom we cannot see, or like the Divine whom we only hear of or read about yet choose to disregard or reject the story, that $100 bill certainly exists but has value only to those who grasp it.
I also see a place for The Schiavo Protocol.
From the Post article: "has caused some of their number to respond with glee. That response is doubtless due to the feeling that Republicans and conservatives have suffered a political defeat."
Frankly, I will never be able to travel again to Florida with a close family member who is disabled. Should something happen medically, I would be concerned that a kill order is actually in place. Maybe it won't just be in Florida, either.
I love to travel.
Florida has Jeb as governor, voted strongly for W as president last election, has a Republican legislature. We are doing pretty good in many ways, are a red state, despite many faults.
But go ahead and condemn the whole state because Greer lives here. While you are at it, go ahead and condemn the entire country, since SCOTUS refused to hear the case.
FWIW, it is socialism, not Americanism, that classifies and condemms people according to the group they belong to. The American tradition is to recognize the individual.
Probably you also noticed that Tennessee is represented by the star of "Love Story" and the inventor of the internet.
By his lights, the secularist has no sense of soul but it is left to wonder if the whole of those non-believers all feel that the mechanics of life is the only true meaning and worth.
The longer this debate has gone on, the more it has come down to the basic maintenance of an otherwise useless resource; the true test will come when the clamor begins to ease out those whose condition harbors no hope for repair, regardless of age.
Hospitals can look forward to a time when they can advertise their services in the same manner as Joe's Auto Body, General Repair and Good Used Parts.
I urge caution and prudence. We have seen that the written word is subjected to judicial and legislative interpretation. If Terri had a living will of the model form in Florida statutes, she would have been starved to death years ago with no need for pesky court intervention.
If you have a trusted friend, make them your surrogate. They have more ethics than the medical and legal communities. The medical and legal folks will bow down to "the law," and the ethics of the decision fall where they may.
I don't know about who gets the body but last nite on FOX, Greta interviewed MS brother and asked about funeral arrangements and he said he knew nothing about that. Is it believable that the brother of MS, who also said he had spent the previous nite sitting with MS because he was so distraught and crying about why people hated him, would not know what the intentions are for the disposal of Terri's body? There needs to be an autopsy, but will it surprise anybody if the body is not immediately cremated? That would end the matter for the whole judicial system that has taken control of this country and is more powerful than the elected President of the US. Unless the President is Bill Clinton, for whom no law applied. No mess to clean up and now the real money can flow in from TV, books, etc.
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