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TERRI SCHIAVO DAILY MARCH 2005 PART 6- NO FOOD OR WATER IN THE 6TH-7TH DAYS - GOOD FRIDAY
various | 3-24-05

Posted on 03/25/2005 12:17:45 AM PST by STARWISE

Judge George Greer ruled that the State of Florida has no right to take custody of Terri Schiavo, which ruling came hours after an appeal by Terri's parents to re-insert the feeding tube was refused by the U.S. Supreme Court.

Meanwhile, another hearing was scheduled tonight before US District Judge James D. Whittemore .. the same judge who previously heard and denied the request subsequent to the 'de novo' intention of the law past last weekend by the Congress and signed by President Bush, in an effort to confirm that no stone was left unturned before Terri would endure legally sanctioned dehydration until death.


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To: Two-Bits

Broken-hearted here as well. : (


4,761 posted on 03/27/2005 12:31:35 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: kenth
Did you all see the thread FR vs. DU?

Please explain more. What was it about exactly?

A troll? Hey, I was called a troll and much worse on the threads this week. Did this troll have a conscience or not? Can't tell what FR considers a troll these days.

4,762 posted on 03/27/2005 12:31:47 PM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: Scoop 1

And the network grows.


4,763 posted on 03/27/2005 12:32:34 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Life support. canned, frozen or fresh, it's good for you!)
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To: Wampus SC

Great photo! That young man certainly does get it!


4,764 posted on 03/27/2005 12:33:27 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: Scoop 1

Ok, the name is most appropriate, but who exactly is Shames? What's his history other than conflict of interest?


4,765 posted on 03/27/2005 12:34:08 PM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: russesjunjee
"I remember how hard is was for me when I learned the Republican party was a sham back in 2003. "

Like Dems taking the black vote for granted? Yes, we need to scream! Maybe WE need to get more involved with the actual workings of the party...

4,766 posted on 03/27/2005 12:35:42 PM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: SeasideSparrow

I tremble a lot lately. My husband has figured out what's going on after watching it for so long now. He's great and is being a wonderful comforter and advocate for Terri to his family whom we are visiting.


4,767 posted on 03/27/2005 12:38:24 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Republic
Heavenly Father, we return to thank You that You are Sovereign. Nothing escapes Your notice ... not the smallest sparrow or the mightiest nation. Kingdoms rise and fall at Your command ... You've numbered the very hairs of our head ... You hold in Your hand the life of every living thing and the breath of all mankind. To acknowledge that, O God, we must acknowledge that it is Your good and perfect will that prevails, and not our own.

So long we have prayed for this mother's child ... we cannot even begin to remember the number of months and years. We've longed that she be returned to the safety of her family. We looked for that one Judge who would rule righteously and well, having so long denied justice to this beleaguered family. We've prayed for her return from the brink of death ... we've prayed for the repentance of those who hold sway over her life. Yet our eyes see nothing but the agonizing death of our beloved friend. It is now, O Lord, that we look up to You in faith, for we are to believe what our eyes cannot see ... that You are at work in the affairs of men and that You will is good and perfect. You are God ... it cannot be otherwise.

Carry us through the days ahead, O God, for we need the Presence of the Comforter ... we need the Light of the Holy Spirit to reveal what is hidden, what must be dealt with, what must be set aside if we are to be used of You. Forgive us, Almighty God, for we have strayed from Your Word ...

And what does the Lord require of thee, O man ... but to do justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God. Micah 6:8

Restore unto us the joy of our salvation, that we may go forth to tend to the least of these, our brethren. In the Name of Jesus, may it be thus, O God, may it be thus ... Amen

4,768 posted on 03/27/2005 12:38:51 PM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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To: mtbopfuyn

On Oct. 27, 2003, Michael Schiavo, the husband of the cognitively disabled Florida woman, Terri Schindler-Schiavo, appeared on Larry King Live to explain why he was fighting so hard to remove his wife’s feeding tube.

His appearance was only days after the Florida legislature intervened to have Terri’s feeding tube reinserted for the second time in two years.

Michael Schiavo insisted that he wanted to help his wife “die with dignity.” He told King: “It’s painless, and probably the most natural way to die. It is a very easy way to die — probably the second best way to die, the first being an aneurysm.”

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At the same time he was speaking on national television, Terri’s medical file contained a document prescribing for her a slow and painful death by starvation and dehydration.
Called an “Exit Protocol,” the document contains explicit instructions for how Terri will be treated during the grisly series of events that will occur should the courts decide to withdraw her feeding tube. Terri’s fate remains an active issue in both the Florida state and U.S. federal courts.

The nurse who discovered the Exit Protocol, Cheryl Ford, R.N., a Tampa nurse, was reviewing Terri’s medical file at the request of the Schindler family when she found the document. For the benefit of our readers, Ford agreed to explain this document in detail. [Editor’s note: The protocol, in bold print, is followed by Ford’s comments.]

• Patient Care Notes— The Hospice of Florida Suncoast — 4/19/01 — Clinical Pharmacy — Re: Medication review and symptom management. The patient is a 37-year-old woman in a vegetative state with no apparent signs of distress. Enteral tube-feeding to be discontinued on 4/20/01.

“This is a very critical piece of information from a nurse’s point of view,” Ford said. “We have a patient with no apparent signs of distress, yet enteral tube feeding is going to be discontinued on 4/20/01. This is murder. And it’s premeditated murder, because look at the dates — notes were prepared the day before the tube was supposed to be withdrawn.”

What would make the death more difficult is that Terri is a healthy woman, weighing approximately 138.5 pounds, which means she will endure longer than other patients who are in the midst of a natural-death process.

“I was an oncology (cancer) nurse,” Ford said. “These people are very weak and gaunt. Their bodies are already shutting down, and their tube feedings are withdrawn when their body systems can no longer handle it. But Terri is not a cancer patient — that’s what bothers me. She’s a healthy young woman.”

• Upon discontinuation of enteral feeding the following signs/symptoms may or may not occur. The following is a brief list of symptoms for which to monitor and recommended interventions.

• Monitor symptoms of pain/discomfort. If noted, medicate with Naproxen rectal suppository 375 mg. Q8 prn [“Q8 prn” means eight times a day as needed].
If someone in a persistent vegetative state cannot feel pain, as Michael Schiavo and his attorney, George Felos, have consistently told the world, why do Terri’s charts tell nurses how to treat her for pain?

According to Ford, that is because Terri can and will feel pain during this process — and a lot of it.
“Think about what hunger pains are like if you haven’t eaten in a while,” Ford said. “You start to get that gnawing feeling, almost a burning in your stomach. Most people don’t extend themselves into the depths of hunger. They grab a cracker or bread if they’re out shopping for a while just to make themselves feel better.”
Terri would not have this option, however. “Within several hours, she’ll start to feel this kind of hunger pain,” Ford said.

Dehydration would only add to the discomfort: “When she starts going into the dehydration stage, her metabolism will start to change. Her electrolytes will get imbalanced. She’s going to get uncomfortable and will start to writhe.
“Advance a couple days without food or water. Now her mouth is parched, her lips, her gums, her tongue will start to crack and bleed. The nasal cavities will start to dry, crack and bleed. The stomach will get dry and shrink, causing vomiting and heaving,” Ford said.

• Pulmonary
(a) Inability to clear secretions — reposition and swab mouth, consider scopolamine patch behind ear every 3 days.
“When you first go into dehydration, your body will automatically compensate by making saliva. But when she gets into the stage where the stomach shrinks and nausea begins, they’re going to stick a patch behind her ear for the nausea. What the patch also does is dehydrate you by taking away this fluid.”

(b) Dyspnea — nebulize low dose 2-5 mg. Morphine sulfate Q4 prn [four times a day as needed].
“Dyspnea is when you have difficulty breathing. What they’re going to do is use a nebulizer the way you might use for asthmatics — only instead of giving a histamine to help her breathe, they’re going to give Terri morphine sulfate, which only suppresses respiration more. In the later phases she’ll start gasping for air.”

In seven to nine days, as most of her body fluids are lost, her blood pressure will go down and her heart rate will rise. The blood will be shunted to the central part of the body from the periphery of the body, so that usually two to three days prior to death, the hands and feet become extremely cold. They become mottled and have a bluish appearance. The eyes will become so dry the patient can’t move them anymore because there will be fluid in them.

• Multifocal myoclonus or terminal agitation [sometimes caused by electrolyte imbalance]. Consider diazepam rectal administration 5-10 mg. May repeat in 4 hours if not resolved then daily — twice daily as needed.

Multifocal myoclonus means seizures taking place in various parts of the body. “Because of the electrolyte imbalance, Terri will begin to have seizures,” Ford said. “She’ll start to twitch. You don’t see this in an oncology patient because they’re already dehydrated. Even the elderly, who are going into the natural process of death, their bodies are doing what God created them to do — slow down.

“Our job as health-care professionals at this point is to understand the death process and to oblige the process God has given these people to help them in comfort measures — palliative care — not to enhance death. But Terri’s not terminal,” Ford said. “What they’re doing here is starving a healthy person to death. This is the only reason why she’ll go into multifocal myoclonus.”

• Grand Mal seizure, which is highly unlikely given current conditions and lack of contributing factors (meds) [medication]. Recommend diazepam 15 mg. rectally as indicated in seizure management orders.

“If she happens to make it into a grand mal seizure, they will give her 15 mg. of valium. … The valium won’t make this easier, it will just help to bring her to death faster, because she won’t have the ability to fight her way out of it,” Ford said. “Her body will not be in good shape at this point. You wouldn’t look at her and say she was comfortable. She’s been without food and water for a long time. She’s pretty much withered, her skin is broken down, her metabolism is broken down, her kidneys haven’t received anything. Her body is reacting to the lack of food.”
At this point, death is imminent.

During the Oct. 2003 tube withdrawal, Ford saw Terri before the process began.
“They started off by dressing her in wool sweaters and long pants, then wrapped her in a wool blanket — to ‘sweat her out’ — to make her deyhdrate faster,” Ford said. She was horrified, especially because it was only October and it’s still hot in Florida in October.

“This is not a painless or dignified way to die,” Ford said. “It’s against the law to dehydrate and starve to death a prisoner on death row. Why should we allow it to be done to a disabled woman — or anybody?”
The cruelty Ford has seen Terri endure is “not even believable,” she said. “In this case, Dr. Kevorkian would be more humane than what they intend to do to Terri.”

http://www.infowars.com/articles/life/schiavo_terris_exit_protocol.htm


4,769 posted on 03/27/2005 12:38:55 PM PST by sfimom (AP 'Decisions to end feedings for patients goes on all the time' (Does this make it OK???))
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To: mtbopfuyn

The poster started the thread just to say we, Terri's supporters, are irrational and no better than the crazed DU'ers. It just brought back what we we've been discussing, how this has brought into the open which side we are all on. There were a couple who thought we probably were undercover DU'ers, trying to make FR seem extreme.


4,770 posted on 03/27/2005 12:39:47 PM PST by kenth
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To: mtbopfuyn

And what will these children think if, God forbid, they should ever be seriously injured?


4,771 posted on 03/27/2005 12:39:54 PM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: mtbopfuyn

why don;t you read the article


4,772 posted on 03/27/2005 12:40:19 PM PST by Scoop 1
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To: eccentric; Lovergirl
Julie Banderas? She must have gotten educated by the crowd.

Yes, she was probably buying the usual media hype before, and now realizes what's really going on. Good to see a reporter actually thinking for herself finally.

4,773 posted on 03/27/2005 12:40:37 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: bjs1779

Funny, I thought Michael had invited both Jeb and W to visit Terri in person. Now they decide they won't let them in if they came?


4,774 posted on 03/27/2005 12:40:56 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Wampus SC
I can't do that. I have to put principle first before party. Putting party first means one's more interested in power; and willing to compromise principle and morality for it.

Years ago, I voted for a Dem governor because she was pro-life. She won, wasn't bad. We have since had pro-death Rep and Dem. Both are evil.

4,775 posted on 03/27/2005 12:44:04 PM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: sfimom

Yes, I know all that, but my question was who is Shames.


4,776 posted on 03/27/2005 12:48:17 PM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: kenth
If I'm irrational and a whackjob for believing that it's wrong to starve and dehydrate people, the most helpless of people, to death, then so be it.

God bless all those irrational whackjobs who saved Jews and many others in WWII.

4,777 posted on 03/27/2005 12:49:09 PM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: kenth

Hmm, I used to consider FR home.


4,778 posted on 03/27/2005 12:49:42 PM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: Theodore R.

OK. A momentary memory lapse. Plug in the correct names and -- everything I said still stands.

I can't think of a reason to participate in the primary of a party that sold us out on this. Unless it's to write in a third party candidate :) Participating in a party function gives tacit approval of a party's actions - or lack of them. My party registration has alway been independent. That means I'm free to always go with conscience, and work with any party that I need to. For the record: it's never the RATS.

True about the Constitution Party's national website. The state websites are generally better. I have nothing but the highest respect for Howard Phillips. We should have listened to him.




4,779 posted on 03/27/2005 12:50:45 PM PST by Wampus SC
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To: Scoop 1
Okay, please explain this for us with clouded minds.

The attorney that the Schindlers consulted was Shames and HE later consented to MS using trust money to hire Felos?

4,780 posted on 03/27/2005 12:53:19 PM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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