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Here's the Florida Law Allowing DCF to Take Terri
Florida Statutes | 3/23/05 | Tomahawk

Posted on 03/23/2005 4:02:52 PM PST by tomahawk

Fla. Stat. § 415.1051 (2004)

§ 415.1051. Protective services interventions when capacity to consent is lacking; nonemergencies; emergencies; orders; limitations

(1) NONEMERGENCY PROTECTIVE SERVICES INTERVENTIONS. --If the department has reasonable cause to believe that a vulnerable adult is being abused, neglected, or exploited and is in need of protective services but lacks the capacity to consent to protective services, the department shall petition the court for an order authorizing the provision of protective services.

(a) Nonemergency protective services petition. --The petition must state the name, age, and address of the vulnerable adult, allege specific facts sufficient to show that the vulnerable adult is in need of protective services and lacks the capacity to consent to them, and indicate the services needed.

(b) Notice. --Notice of the filing of the petition and a copy of the petition must be given to the vulnerable adult, to that person's spouse, guardian, and legal counsel, and, when known, to the adult children or next of kin of the vulnerable adult. Such notice must be given at least 5 days before the hearing.

(c) Hearing.

1. The court shall set the case for hearing within 14 days after the filing of the petition. The vulnerable adult and any person given notice of the filing of the petition have the right to be present at the hearing. The department must make reasonable efforts to ensure the presence of the vulnerable adult at the hearing.

2. The vulnerable adult has the right to be represented by legal counsel at the hearing. The court shall appoint legal counsel to represent a vulnerable adult who is without legal representation.

3. The court shall determine whether:

a. Protective services, including in-home services, are necessary.

b. The vulnerable adult lacks the capacity to consent to the provision of such services.

(d) Hearing findings. --If at the hearing the court finds by clear and convincing evidence that the vulnerable adult is in need of protective services and lacks the capacity to consent, the court may issue an order authorizing the provision of protective services. If an order for protective services is issued, it must include a statement of the services to be provided and designate an individual or agency to be responsible for performing or obtaining the essential services on behalf of the vulnerable adult or otherwise consenting to protective services on behalf of the vulnerable adult.

(e) Continued protective services.

1. No more than 60 days after the date of the order authorizing the provision of protective services, the department shall petition the court to determine whether:

a. Protective services will be continued with the consent of the vulnerable adult pursuant to subsection (1);

b. Protective services will be continued for the vulnerable adult who lacks capacity;

c. Protective services will be discontinued; or

d. A petition for guardianship should be filed pursuant to chapter 744.

2. If the court determines that a petition for guardianship should be filed pursuant to chapter 744, the court, for good cause shown, may order continued protective services until it makes a determination regarding capacity.

(f) Costs. --The costs of services ordered under this section must be paid by the perpetrator if the perpetrator is financially able to do so; or by third-party reimbursement, if available. If the vulnerable adult is unable to pay for guardianship, application may be made to the public guardian for public guardianship services, if available.

(2) EMERGENCY PROTECTIVE SERVICES INTERVENTION. --If the department has reasonable cause to believe that a vulnerable adult is suffering from abuse or neglect that presents a risk of death or serious physical injury to the vulnerable adult and that the vulnerable adult lacks the capacity to consent to emergency protective services, the department may take action under this subsection. If the vulnerable adult has the capacity to consent and refuses consent to emergency protective services, emergency protective services may not be provided.

(a) Emergency entry of premises. --If, upon arrival at the scene of the incident, consent is not obtained for access to the alleged victim for purposes of conducting a protective investigation under this subsection and the department has reason to believe that the situation presents a risk of death or serious physical injury, a representative of the department and a law enforcement officer may forcibly enter the premises. If, after obtaining access to the alleged victim, it is determined through a personal assessment of the situation that no emergency exists and there is no basis for emergency protective services intervention under this subsection, the department shall terminate the emergency entry.

(b) Emergency removal from premises. --If it appears that the vulnerable adult lacks the capacity to consent to emergency protective services and that the vulnerable adult, from the personal observations of the representative of the department and specified medical personnel or law enforcement officers, is likely to incur a risk of death or serious physical injury if such person is not immediately removed from the premises, then the representative of the department shall transport or arrange for the transportation of the vulnerable adult to an appropriate medical or protective services facility in order to provide emergency protective services. Law enforcement personnel have a duty to transport when medical transportation is not available or needed and the vulnerable adult presents a threat of injury to self or others. If the vulnerable adult's caregiver or guardian is present, the protective investigator must seek the caregiver's or guardian's consent pursuant to subsection (4) before the vulnerable adult may be removed from the premises, unless the protective investigator suspects that the vulnerable adult's caregiver or guardian has caused the abuse, neglect, or exploitation. The department shall, within 24 hours after providing or arranging for emergency removal of the vulnerable adult, excluding Saturdays, Sundays, and legal holidays, petition the court for an order authorizing emergency protective services.

(c) Emergency medical treatment. --If, upon admission to a medical facility, it is the opinion of the medical staff that immediate medical treatment is necessary to prevent serious physical injury or death, and that such treatment does not violate a known health care advance directive prepared by the vulnerable adult, the medical facility may proceed with treatment to the vulnerable adult. If a person with legal authority to give consent for the provision of medical treatment to a vulnerable adult has not given or has refused to give such consent, examination and treatment must be limited to reasonable examination of the patient to determine the medical condition of the patient and treatment reasonably necessary to alleviate the emergency medical condition or to stabilize the patient pending court determination of the department's petition authorizing emergency protective services. Any person may seek an expedited judicial intervention under rule 5.900 of the Florida Probate Rules concerning medical treatment procedures.

(d) Emergency protective services petition. --A petition filed under this subsection must state the name, age, and address of the vulnerable adult and allege the facts constituting the emergency protective services intervention and subsequent removal of the vulnerable adult or provision of in-home services, the facts relating to the capacity of the vulnerable adult to consent to services, the efforts of the department to obtain consent, and the services needed or delivered.

(e) Notice. --Notice of the filing of the emergency protective services petition and a copy of the petition must be given to the vulnerable adult, to that person's spouse, to that person's guardian, if any, to legal counsel representing the vulnerable adult, and, when known, to adult children or next of kin of the vulnerable adult. Such notice must be given at least 24 hours before any hearing on the petition for emergency protective services.

(f) Hearing. --When emergency removal has occurred under this subsection, a hearing must be held within 4 days after the filing of the emergency protective services petition, excluding Saturday, Sunday, and legal holidays, to establish reasonable cause for grounds to continue emergency protective services.

1. The court shall determine, by clear and convincing evidence, whether an emergency existed which justified the emergency protective services intervention, whether the vulnerable adult is in need of emergency protective services, whether the vulnerable adult lacks the capacity to consent to emergency protective services, and whether:

a. Emergency protective services will continue with the consent of the vulnerable adult;

b. Emergency protective services will continue without the consent of the vulnerable adult; or

c. Emergency protective services will be discontinued.

2. The vulnerable adult has the right to be represented by legal counsel at the hearing. The court shall appoint legal counsel to represent a vulnerable adult who is without legal representation.

3. The department must make reasonable efforts to ensure the presence of the vulnerable adult at the hearing.

4. If an order to continue emergency protective services is issued, it must state the services to be provided and designate an individual or agency to be responsible for performing or obtaining the essential services, or otherwise consenting to protective services on behalf of the vulnerable adult.

(g) Continued emergency protective services.

1. Not more than 60 days after the date of the order authorizing the provision of emergency protective services, the department shall petition the court to determine whether:

a. Emergency protective services will be continued with the consent of the vulnerable adult;

b. Emergency protective services will be continued for the vulnerable adult who lacks capacity;

c. Emergency protective services will be discontinued; or

d. A petition should be filed under chapter 744.

2. If it is decided to file a petition under chapter 744, for good cause shown, the court may order continued emergency protective services until a determination is made by the court.

(h) Costs. --The costs of services ordered under this section must be paid by the perpetrator if the perpetrator is financially able to do so, or by third-party reimbursement, if available.

(3) PROTECTIVE SERVICES ORDER. --In ordering any protective services under this section, the court shall adhere to the following limitations:

(a) Only such protective services as are necessary to ameliorate the conditions creating the abuse, neglect, or exploitation may be ordered, and the court shall specifically designate the approved services in the order of the court.

(b) Protective services ordered may not include a change of residence, unless the court specifically finds such action is necessary to ameliorate the conditions creating the abuse, neglect, or exploitation and the court gives specific approval for such action in the order. Placement may be made to such facilities as adult family-care homes, assisted living facilities, or nursing homes, or to other appropriate facilities. Placement may not be made to facilities for the acutely mentally ill, except as provided in chapter 394.

(c) If an order to continue emergency protective services is issued, it must include the designation of an individual or agency to be responsible for performing or obtaining the essential services on behalf of the vulnerable adult or otherwise consenting to protective services on behalf of the vulnerable adult.

(4) PROTECTIVE SERVICES INTERVENTIONS WITH CAREGIVER OR GUARDIAN PRESENT.

(a) When a vulnerable adult who lacks the capacity to consent has been identified as the victim, the protective investigator must first request consent from the caregiver or guardian, if present, before providing protective services or protective supervision, unless the protective investigator suspects that the caregiver or guardian has caused the abuse, neglect, or exploitation.

(b) If the caregiver or guardian agrees to engage or provide services designed to prevent further abuse, neglect, or exploitation, the department may provide protective supervision.

(c) If the caregiver or guardian refuses to give consent or later withdraws consent to agreed-upon services, or otherwise fails to provide needed care and supervision, the department may provide emergency protective services as provided in subsection (2). If emergency protective services are so provided, the department must then petition the court for an order to provide emergency protective services under subsection (3).

(5) INTERFERENCE WITH COURT-ORDERED PROTECTIVE SERVICES. --When a court order exists authorizing protective services for a vulnerable adult who lacks capacity to consent and any person interferes with the provision of such court-ordered protective services, the appropriate law enforcement agency shall enforce the order of the court.

(6) LIMITATIONS. --This section does not limit in any way the authority of the court or a criminal justice officer, or any other duly appointed official, to intervene in emergency circumstances under existing statutes. This section does not limit the authority of any person to file a petition for guardianship under chapter 744.


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To: glennaro

The State Police will follow the Executive Branch's orders, not the orders of a judge acting beyond the scope of his judicial powers.

Judge Greer cannot enjoin enforcement of a law on the books.


61 posted on 03/23/2005 4:43:52 PM PST by tomahawk
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To: tomahawk

The State Attorney General can give an opinion that DCF is acting within its statutory authority, and that the Judge cannot enjoin enforcement of a law on the books.

The State Police will follow the Executive Branch's directions. That is the chain of command.


62 posted on 03/23/2005 4:45:37 PM PST by tomahawk
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To: glennaro
...but the point is he exceeded his authority as a judge in so doing.

That may be true. But Terri is still being killed. I don't see Jeb Bush there. I don't see any troops getting her out? I don't see any action at all. What is Jeb doing? What are any of the people in Florida doing? Everyone is sitting doing nothing because blind Judge Greer says so.

63 posted on 03/23/2005 4:46:03 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: feefee

Nope I don't. However, the Slate article raises an interesting issue, that Terri's ADA rights are now violated. http://www.slate.com/id/2115208/


64 posted on 03/23/2005 4:48:22 PM PST by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch.)
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To: tomahawk

Get it done! We'll fight while she's got food and water.


65 posted on 03/23/2005 4:51:03 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: mlc9852

The restraining order would be invalid if it contradicts established law. So Greer can go urinate horizontially at the proverbial twisted hemp product.


66 posted on 03/23/2005 4:54:39 PM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (Our legal system is in a PVS. Time to remove it from the public feeding trough.)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

Love your tagline.

If Judge Greer attempts to prevent the Executive branch from enforcing the law, he should be arrested.


67 posted on 03/23/2005 4:55:47 PM PST by tomahawk
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To: tomahawk
Tick...tick...tick...ON...JEB'S...WATCH. Greer can't stop them? He just forbade them to place her in protective custody. So...where are they?
*tapping foot*
Greer defied the US Congress too. Where are they? What happened to those subpoenas?

Prove me wrong, please. Until then IMO this is all so that everybody can say they tried.

68 posted on 03/23/2005 4:55:48 PM PST by Graymatter (ON...JEB'S...WATCH.)
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To: tomahawk
You are projecting your desires as an outcome.

I am certain you are justifiably passionate about this subject, but you are no legal authority.

69 posted on 03/23/2005 4:59:12 PM PST by verity (The Liberal Media and the ACLU are America's Enemies)
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To: TXBubba
What is Jeb doing? What are any of the people in Florida doing?

Could it be that it is SO critical to time it right regarding getting to the weekend or holiday and that her parents or others who know Terri's condition believe she can endure the day or so delay? Like mentioned earlier, if they can get this to span a long weekend before having to petition a court, it would give them time to get a lot more food and hydration into her and a proper examination. If they can only keep her in custody for 24 hours, that may not be much help.
70 posted on 03/23/2005 4:59:16 PM PST by AaronInCarolina
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To: AaronInCarolina
"As I looked at Terri and she gazed directly back at me, I asked myself, if I were her attending physician, I could in good conscience withdraw her feeding and hydration. No, I could not. I could not withdraw life support if I were asked. I could not withhold hydration and nutrition from this beautiful lady whose face brightens in the presence of others."

Dr William Cheshire after spending 90 minutes with Terri Schiavo. Taken from his affadavit filed on behalf of DCF dated 3/23/05.

71 posted on 03/23/2005 5:01:22 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: tomahawk

Heads up- Bill O'Reilly has a "solution"...check it out:)

Excellent idea! On FOX right now.


72 posted on 03/23/2005 5:02:00 PM PST by SE Mom (God Bless our troops.)
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To: tomahawk
Criminal...

Gabriel Keys (foreground) is arrested by police officers for
trespassing in Pinellas Park, Florida, March 23, 2005. The
young protester attempted to take a glass of water into
the Woodside Hospice for the brain-damaged Terri Schiavo.
A federal judge approved the murder of Terri Schiavo by
rejecting a request from her parents to order her feeding
tube reinserted to save her life.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050323/ids_photos_ts/r4209066064.jpg


73 posted on 03/23/2005 5:05:46 PM PST by XR7
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To: tomahawk
The judge cannnot enjoin the executive branch from enforcing a law that is on the books.

Thank you for your clear thinking ;-)

74 posted on 03/23/2005 5:06:22 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: SE Mom
Heads up- Bill O'Reilly has a "solution"...check it out:)

What is his solution? I just turned to FOX and he is not repeating his solution.
75 posted on 03/23/2005 5:06:26 PM PST by AaronInCarolina
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To: AaronInCarolina
That's a thought. But they said she had taken a turn for the worse. I just don't like one minute wasted. It's been almost 6 days. She has to get water.

On another point. I think the Florida police who put little kids in handcuffs for trying to take water in ought to be prosecuted for child abuse. There are a lot of sick things going on in Florida.

76 posted on 03/23/2005 5:06:39 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: SE Mom

Schiavo won't give up, and can't..........in order to marry in the Catholic church. Also, if he has something to hide or be worried about legally, he would not rest. Then there's $$ at death.

It's not about Terri for Schiavo.


77 posted on 03/23/2005 5:06:54 PM PST by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch.)
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To: Ladysmith

I DO NOT SEE HOW THEY CAN SAY THE ALLEDGED TREATMENT OF THOSE PRISONERS WAS INHUMANE AND TURN AROUND AND STARVE A PERSON TO DEATH.

This is beyond belief. It is high time we start looking at our judicial system. After all, the courts are not and should not be the end all of everything.

And the persons responsible should be charged with murder, pure and simple


78 posted on 03/23/2005 5:10:15 PM PST by freekitty
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To: TXBubba
But they said she had taken a turn for the worse.

I am hoping that that declaration was a little bit of a legal maneuver, a bit of an exageration, to allow them to appeal to the federal court for emergency relief to re-insert the tube. I am hoping that it is not as bad as they declared to the court. If it was a legal maneuver, I wouldn't hold it past the parents.
79 posted on 03/23/2005 5:10:42 PM PST by AaronInCarolina
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To: sandbar

How can Greer block it? The legislature was as clear as day on the matter. No permission by any judge is required.


80 posted on 03/23/2005 5:11:07 PM PST by Critter (America, home of the whipped.)
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