Posted on 03/23/2005 12:00:12 PM PST by areafiftyone
Your sane observation is quite refreshing.
"These officers remind me of those at Klamath sent there by their government to deny 1500 farming families of their water. They didn't want to be there. When talked to about what they were actually helping accomplish, most would move off and not talk to you anymore."
I have had the same recall as you did re the Klamath affair and the Elain affair re the officers standing on the wrong side of justice.
You'd make a very proper Nazi...just following legal orders and all that. It doesn't matter who gets killed, as long as a judge or other authority figure defines it as a 'legal' activity. I feel sorry for you.
A friend of mine who's a public school teacher in Dixie County Florida told me spring break is in April. You would assume other counties, like Pinellas, would do the same. So I also believe these children are homeschooled. (And the conservative dress does help that argument, too.)
Really? Since his post was about me, then I must be "these kinds of folks" who have "quite eagerly slandered Christians", so post proof, or retract.
Hey, I never claimed to be perfect, but if you can't see that I was merely pointing out the absurdity of what is being done over and over and over again on these threads, then you just need to move on and get over it. Anyone who was thinking clearly, and not looking for a fight just for a fight's sake, would easily be able to look at that, and say to him or herself "Yeah, he said exactly what some of these people are claiming to believe... I''m glad he pointed that out, because it's weird, nutty, and makes us all look like a bunch of kooks."
Maybe I could have handled it differently, but again, I'm not perfect, so sue me.
Yes, there are always a few bad apples in LE, but I get queasy when I hear people trash the police and LE quite as harshly as you did. The left consistently trashes the police, they are ALWAYS wrong in every case where they had to shoot someone, and they were always calling the police "the pigs", and disparaging them. I guess it shocks me coming from the right, though I understand and share your disgust at the pictures of children being cuffed. The policemen don't look very happy at doing it; I like to think if it were me, I would throw down my badge and quit; but we all don't have the same ethics barrier. Maybe they were afraid they couldn't support their families if they quit, or something.
I don't know. I really am so sick about this. I saw a picture of that judge on Fox and Friends this morning (Judge Greer) and I know in my heart that he will not let the State take over Terri. I just know it. I don't see any kindness in his eyes.
Now I hear the parents are appealing to the Supreme Court. I hope they show some sense for a change and come down on the side of life, but I'm not optimistic.
Thank you. I appreciate that, especially coming from you.
You and I have been around FR for quite awhile, and I cannot remember an event that has elicited such emotion and animosity within the ranks. Can you? I have purposely not participated in this debate as most argument is coming from the heart which inherently gives rise to distortion, some of it gross. It is counter-productive to try and have a thoughtful and reasonable exchange when things are so heated, so I have opted to observe and keep my own counsel.
Also, I was really disturbed with Rush's broadcasts this week. I was not so much surprised with his "sanctity of life" stance which is well known and with which I philosophically agree, but his quoting as authorities, some of the more nebulous actors in this drama, to me was weak, unconvincing, and off putting, almost like he was grasping at straws. It has not been his better work, in my humble opinion.
I'm going on too long. Thanks again for your kind reply.
A little too cryptic there. Its usually best to just say what you actually mean.
Am I supposed to feel "challenged" to use my own children for a publicity stunt? Or maybe "challenged" to blindly approve of using children as chattel for a pet political cause? Clarification please.
Me neither. I don't think the Supreme Court will take up the case. They refused twice already.
"Now come back to me and try to defend your idiotic slap at homeschoolers. If you A) can't take the heat, and/or B) don't know what you're talking about, then go to another Forum......but don't pretend to take on the big dogs, boy."
I've nothing aganist homeschoolers. I've everything against pious, self-righteous people like yourself, 'big dog'. Bring something to the table besides your pathetic challenge in the thread and then remember that the main thing is that (I think) we both want Terri to live.
This whole thing is making me ill. A woman is being put to death for the crime of being disabled, and the law is coming down on the side of the murdering "husband." It's just sick.
Days later, the husband stabbed her to death.
This Judge should not be on the bench!
"Hell, I'll just say it. You are full of $#!+."
Well, that was intelligent.
I'm not going to defend Greers' actions in the Shiavo case, but it's possible that at the time this protection order wasn't given because the law required previous acts of violence or something, and his hands were tied by the law. Had he done it, regardless of what the law said, people would have complained about "activist judges legislating from the bench" etc...
That may not be the case however, but it could be a logical explanation for why he denied the request for a protection order... Are there any other details on that case?
"You are the one making accusations of thousands of dead innocent Iraqis, not me. That's straight out of DU or MoveOn.org. "
Accusations? Wow - you're really in denial about the realities of war. Noone (except you) denies this reality.
"Ask the feds for help when the state refuses to act to safe a life is proper compared to the alternatives. "
Spoken like a true liberal. It must be nice to toss one's principles aside when one finds them inconvenient.
"Why do you want this woman dead so badly? "
I don't - I've stated numerous times that I don't understand why she can't be released to her parents and why her polygamous husband still has any custody of her.
Try to keep up, please.
"You'd make a very proper Nazi...just following legal orders and all that."
Oh yes, good Nazi and all that. I'm sure your deck is full of Nazi cards you can whip out when someone disagrees with your views. Whatever... sticks and stones... Of course the Nazis poisoned and cooked people several hundred at a time. I don't think this is quite the same (and please withhold your "slippery slope" retort). Another difference is the protracted court battle where Terri's parents exercised their right to make their case in court. I support that right and had they won I'd support the decision of the court. A good Nazi would have never let it get to court. Nazi's would've clubbed the parents and Terri, probably the husband too for good measure.
"I feel sorry for you."
Don't. The pain inflicted by your insult was shortlived.
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