Picture of the children arresting for trying to bring Terry [Schiavo] water (God Bless Them!)

US News ^ | 3/23/05

[areafiftyone]

Pinellas Park police Lt. Kevin Riley, standing upper right, prepares to arrest members of the Keys family as they were attempting to bring Terri Schiavo water Wednesday morning, March 23, 2005 outside the Woodside Hospice in Pinellas Park, Fla. The Keys family, of Burnet, Tex., kneeling, from left, Josie, 14, Gabriel, 10, Chris, the children's father, and Cameron 12, were all taken into custody. Galen Keys, upper left, the children's mother looks on, but was not arrested.The mother insists it was the children's idea: "I am proud of them," said the boys' mother Geilen Keys from Texas, who was not arrested. "They are very mature and they said 'we want to go and offer some water to Terri'."

Pinellas Park police Lt. Kevin Riley, second from left, handcuffs 14-year-old Josie Keys, left, while Pinellas County Sheriff's deputies place her father Chris in the back of a van after arresting members of the family for trespassing Wednesday morning March 23, 2005 outside the Woodside Hospice in Pinellas Park, Fla. The family members were attempting to bring Terri Schiavo a cup of water.

Gabriel Keys (foreground) is arrested by police officers for trespassing in Pinellas Park, Florida, March 23, 2005. The young protester attempted to take a glass of water into the Woodside Hospice for the brain-damaged Terri Schiavo. A federal judge rejected a request from the parents of Schiavo to order her feeding tube reinserted, dealing a blow to attempts by the U.S. Congress and the White House to prolong her life.

[Chad Fairbanks]

If this is how you defend your positions, please take the other side. You'll do us all a favor.

My apologies for not engaging in irrational, emotional-driven hysterics and hyperbole. Also, please pardon me for the transgresions of not throwing the word "Nazi" around as much as is required, and also, please overlook the fact that I havn't tried to have Terri Shiavo sainted. By not doing any of that, I have done a great disservice to the Pro-Life movement, and am now to be considered a member of the Culture of Death.

Ok, I understand. I will try to do better now... let me try... Here goes...

"Those Stormtrooper pigs, "yust folloving orderz" from a Nazi judge are murdering the Blessed Saint Terri..."

Ok, am I doing it correctly NOW?

[Badray]

Work a little harder. Soon, you'll be a perfect ass.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Great, because I aspire to be like you, so that's helpful. Thanks bunches!

[floriduh voter]

They are all out of jail tonight but it never should have happened in the first place. They weren't near the entrance, just took two steps. They could have just been guided away from that part of the pkg lot. ARREST CHILREN, WELL, THESE COPS FOLLOWED ME HOME THIS EVENING. They are seriously trying to intimidate Terri supporters.

[Shadrak]

...but I will NOT stand idly by while my faith is mocked and blasphemed.

But you WILL mock and blaspheme the Faith of others?

[fatima]

They followed you home!

[Chad Fairbanks]

Nope. I don't do that. My "resurection" post was in response to all the stuff posted about Easter, and Good Friday, and pictures of Terri on a cross with all the stigmata wounds et al... I finally got ticked about it.

I think you can ask anyone here, and they'll tell you that I don't poke fun at anyone's religion or faith (unless it's good natured joking between us)

SO, to answer your question, no.

[danmar]

Der Polizei must be very proud.

What's your point? Do you think everything in German is negative or evil!?

BTW it is "Die Polizei" FYI.

[Travis McGee]

The reference to die polizei is a reference to Nazi euthanasia programs from the 1930s until the end of the Third Reich.

"Useless feeders" and "life unworthy of life" ring a bell? I'm sure you can translate them into zehr gut Deutch.

[Chad Fairbanks]

The reference to die polizei is a reference to Nazi euthanasia programs from the 1930s until the end of the Third Reich.

It's interesting that you mention that, because we had those same types of laws on the books in THIS country for even longer than that... from the 20s, up until in some cases the 1980s...

[Once-Ler]

to protect and serve, little piggy got his orders. So where are all the cop lovers? come on defend this!

I like cops. The day conservatism stops standing for rule of law is the day I jump parties. What are the cops supposed to do? Shoot their fellow cops and dash to Terri's side with water? Quit their jobs and be replaced by someone else? What have you done to save Terri? Your anger is misplaced. Think about it.

[Travis McGee]

We had government programs to go through all of our mental hospitals and kill all of the retarded? I didn't know that. Can you provide some source material confirming this US govt program?

[Tired of Taxes]

Children may be naive and immature but most of them are not willfully ignorant and intentionmally cruel. Those are faults that can only be held against adults. If you won't teach your children, they will learn what they can from wherever they can.

I agree. After that last post, I did explain the situation to my oldest in somewhat vague terms. For the record, my children are taught what's right and what's wrong. But, I do admit to sheltering them a bit. On the one hand, I don't want them to know yet how cruel the world is - I want them to keep their innocence as long as possible. And, on the other hand, I don't want them to become jaded to all the cruelty, either.

Now, if we lived in the area, I would probably have my kids outside of the hospice, too. If it were happening right around the corner, I'd feel like we should be there. Taking your daughter was a good thing to do.

[Chad Fairbanks]

No, they didn't kill "the retarded", but we had programs to sterilize the mentally ill, the retarded, and in many instances anyone who was not "of old pioneer stock"...

THis was how Margaret Sanger, and what became PLanned Parenthood, got it's start...

There's plenty of documentation out there on this (it's near and dear to my heart because of some people back in my family line who were forcibly sterilized because they were indians in Vermont, apparently a no-no), beginning with Indiana's Eugenics law in 1907, up until it finally stopped in the 60s completely...

``It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind,'' Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote in the majority opinion of a landmark eugenics case in 1926.

No, the germans may have been the worst practitioners, but they were by no means the only one. We can also point fingers at ourselves...

[Travis McGee]

Forced sterilization of the retarded (USA and Europe) was not the same as killing them (Nazi Germany).

[Chad Fairbanks]

And as an aside, in some areas, thanks to Social Darwinism and Eigenics, children that were diabled at birth, if their prognosis was "pessimistic", were basically left unattended in the hospital until they died - the average time frame for death was, I believe, at 37 days old... This occurred repeatedly in Oklahoma, of all places, back then...

[Pelham]

The day conservatism stops standing for rule of law is the day I jump parties.

I sympathize with the plight of the illegal.

Squaring the circle.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Oh, some of that was done - except it was with disabled children, not the retarded...

[Once-Ler]

The Children are in the service of Our Lord and Savior, tending to the sick and helpless, that is what he ordered, something wrong with the lesson they are showing the world? Ops4 God Bless America!

I don't think anyone has faulted the children. It's the judgement of the parents that has been called into question.

God Bless America.

[Travis McGee]

I'm sure that it happened, quietly and often.