What If Terri Schiavo Wants To Live? (David Limbaugh Slams Culture Of Death Alert)

Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 03/22/05 | David Limbaugh

[goldstategop]

Just what is it that so earnestly motivates those who zealously want Terri Schiavo's feeding tube to be removed? While there are plenty of exceptions, I dare say that most people in this camp are not driven by constitutional concerns, despite their hollow protests to the contrary.

As my brother Rush cogently noted, it is easy to understand what drives those who want to save Terri's life: the human urge to protect and save the life of another human being. The motivation of those fighting with equal fervor to remove the tube is not so self-evident.

The more I read about this case, the more it weighs on me – the more a creeping feeling of horror sweeps over me. If, in fact, Terri Schiavo wants to live and is going to be denied that right, the prospect of a court-ordered removal of her feeding tube is no less horrifying than that of a person being buried alive.

If Terri truly wants to live – as a lawyer visiting with her when her feeding tube was removed avers – how could any caring person wish death upon her? The question is not whether we think we would want to live in Terri's state, but whether in fact she wants to. Are those advocating Terri's death allowing themselves to consider that this woman truly wants to live – just like they do?

I doubt I'll ever be able to understand, much less relate to, the sympathies of certain people. Generally speaking, they seem to feel more compassion for wildlife than animals, more for animals than human beings, more for guilty human beings than innocent ones, more for Communist dictators and tyrannical thugs than freedom fighters, and more for the vindication of an abstract principle devaluing human life than for an actual human being like Terri Schiavo, who, though severely disabled, may truly want to live.

How can we possibly view in a favorable light the position of those who protest to save the lives of convicted killers on death row and who bend over backward to believe their most incredible stories of innocence, but won't lift a finger in support of Terri Schiavo and won't even momentarily consider that Terri wants to live? Where are the "Free Mumia" chanters when Terri needs them?

I realize some believe that many advocating for Terri's life are using her for their own political purposes and that even Terri's parents, the Schindlers, are putting their own selfish wishes to keep Terri alive above those of Terri herself.

But do we actually believe that loving parents – parents who would eagerly trade places with Terri in an instant – would place their own comfort above their daughter's? If not, how can we possibly believe they would fight to prolong her suffering? In examining this case from a distance, isn't it much easier to believe Terri's parents' assessment of her desire to continue living than that of her adulterous husband, whose conflict of interest should disqualify him from guardianship in this case and participation in this decision?

And isn't the essential argument of those wanting the tube removed that Terri's wishes ought to be honored? Since Terri left no legal document directing her death in these circumstances, shouldn't the system require clear and convincing evidence that Terri indeed would want to die in these circumstances? Yet the court is relying on the hearsay evidence of Terri's estranged husband, Michael.

The question is whether as a society we want to resolve these very difficult, doubtful cases in favor of death.

I detect more than a bit of intellectual dishonesty among many favoring Terri's death. They are claiming they merely want to honor Terri's wishes, yet they rely on her tainted husband, callously discount the testimony of her loving parents, blindly accept the disinformation that Terri is in a purely vegetative state, and ignore multiple firsthand accounts, including from examining physicians and nurses, that Terri is responsive, sometimes animated, and definitely wants to go on living.

Could it be that something besides Terri's wishes motivates many of the death-soldiers, such as an allegiance to the culture of death, or some abject, inhumane resentment that we spend so much money keeping severely disabled people alive? I've received appalling e-mails from people complaining about the financial burden to society of keeping Terri alive.

I'm not pointing fingers at anyone specifically, because I know that many who want the tube removed are motivated by their perceived compassion for Terri and even honoring Terri's wishes. But I fear that many arguing for tube removal are doing so with complete disregard for Terri's actual wishes in this case. To the extent that is going on, we are witnessing up-close the face of evil.

We must fight on. … More prayers for Terri

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Got something hard to say. Brace yourself. Enough with the paper pushing. Terri's lawyer should suggest that the judge have Terri tied to the back of a pickup and dragged. Then, the government could legally intervene.

I'm fed up with this Pro-Death Law! Help the wicked! Kill the innocent! THE LAW IS PROVING ITSELF IN NEED OF A HUGE ENEMA!

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Can I call you a member of.....?

THE 'VAST LIFE-WING CONSPIRACY' AGAINST 'poor wittuw michael' SCHIAVO [FR Link page]

Broken bones, signs of strangulation, No CPR administered, the cremation outrage, and recent, hot: ACCIDENTAL CONFESSION ON LARRY KING?....And many quotes with info I was not aware of have been pasted there.

Also... large link cluster

[shezza]

Meanwhile, in the ultimate irony, today is the U.N.'s "National Water Day" :

The United Nations says more than 1.1 billion people around the world lack safe water and 2.4 billion have no access to sanitation, leading to over 3 million deaths every year.

[AntiGuv]

Quite honestly, I think what's so hard for me to get over is the idea that the legal system in Florida must've failed so abysmally on so many levels if all that you say is true. The portrait you and others paint seems so clear and compelling on its face that it's hard to accept how Michael Schiavo could get away with so much if true.

[DeaconRed]

There are a lot of people who want to play GOD. GOD will take her when he is ready, not when the cheating husband wants her out of the way, because he now has a "NEW" one.

[mathluv]

Linda Chavez says the fact that he is in a common-law relationship with another woman should abbrogate his being considered Terri's husband.

It sounds like he is a bigamist to me.

[mathluv]

Her husband did not mention her wanting to die for 7 years - until after he won 1.2 million to support her and help pay for her therapy. Stangely, that is when all therapy and 'help' stopped.

[varon]

That would be legalized murder. The Left is taking the slow, painful way to Terri's end because they don't have the guts to admit they ARE for euthanasia

I can't help but wander. If Terri has a wish to die instead of living in this condition as the courts proclaim and the courts are facilitating her wishes through starvation and dehydration, why then are these same courts imprisoning Dr. Jack Kevorkian for doing the exact same thing, facilitating the wishes of people to die instead of living under undesirable conditions?

To facilitate a person's death wish is to facilitate suicide but at least Kevorkian was participating in a more humane method of suicide and there never was a doubt as to whether it was the wish of the deceased.

[maica]

We may not know what Terri's wishes are but we ought always to resolve them in favor of life. In the meantime we must fight on and as always pray a miracle happens for Terri.

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It looks like Terri will be with Jesus by Easter Sunday.

She has willed herself to live all these years, yet judges have decided that she is not worth as much as a stranded dolphin.

[Northern Yankee]

But, I don't know what Terri would want,...

That's exactly the point! Why not err on the side of life than the side of death?!

One guy on Rush's show yesterday told Rush that being on a feeding tube is being on life support.

Then my next question would be this: Babies have no ability to feed themselves. It is up to the parents, or mother, to see that this is done. If the mother or parents neglect feeding the baby, the baby will die. Murder will have taken place. How is this different than denying Terri food and water?

It is also interesting to note that Terri is on a feeding tube because of the court. According to one of the doctors yesterday on Sean Hannity's show she can swallow, but the tube was court ordered.

I just don't understand anyone's logic that would favor starvation. Do we not have an obligation to protect the weakest among us?

[restornu]

"Adultery and abandonment don't seem to count in this case." Call me what ever you like facts speak for themselves an Michael Schiavo deeds are not a conspiracy when done in the open!

Michael Schiavo seems to be more cunning than O.J., Peterson, Robert Blake etc....

From a women point of view it appears it is open season on the female poplulation from Social path males who have joined up with the Culture of Death Crowed!

I suppose they don't exist either!

George Felos End-of-Life Care Advocate also Michael Schiavo Lawyer

The University of Miami habors these Ethical Humanist and also embrasses Secular Islam go figure that one????? Also the home of the Terrorist fund raiser and Florida hanging chad courts.....spawn Al-Arian: Terrorist Professor and His Campus Allies By Robert Spencer

Home of the Clinton "Dems of Vipers" in courts, and government body....Janet Reno/Elian Gonzales, violating civil rights of Rush...Flight school training for 911 etc

Clean up Social Security you clean up Florida!

Democrats version of how to make the Ponzi SS work by Population control ABORT the non-taxable!:)

[newzhawk]

Re: conflicted interest- this guy wanted her alive until lawsuit ended - then off with her useless head! I understand his lawyer is on the board of the hospice where she is - don't know if this is true - but imagine Hillary being on the board and and representing her favorite enemy in the way - hmmmmmmmm... definitely a conflict. When she dies - the lawyer gets paid.

[restornu]

When I watch the senate debate Sunday and listen to the Democrats talk about all kinds of things except Terri life

It made me numb how those men and women could look like human beings and yet be so indifferent to life and an unnessary painful death.

It like leaving a new born just lay in the street and thousands of folks pass by and did nothing....

Deprave indifferents is the only thought comes to mind about the Democrats!

Maybe what you were tuning out was this can't be for real....Sorry to say AntiGuv it is so!

[Conservativegreatgrandma]

My son-in-law's nephew was born with only part of his brain. He's now in his 20s and has had a feeding tube for years. I called my daughter yesterday and asked her why taxpayers should be paying to keep Greg alive? Why should ANYONE be allowed life support or a feeding tube?

[Nephi]

That's the problem with godless conservatives - the only thing they believe in is lower taxes.

[clee1]

Uh huh.

If my tax dollars are used, THIS is what I want them to be used for - the care of the helpless.

[HighlyOpinionated]

WHY doesn't someone check to see if the Judge, and others directly or indirectly connected to the Hospice have taken out "life insurance" policies on the residents there and will benefit financially for each person who dies?

[_Jim]

Hmmm ... ominous reflections of Hitler's Health Courts from a period we thought was behind us ...

[_Jim]

First, one has to remember that Judge Greer has never asked Terri if she wants to die. Remember that if you have ruled that she is in a vegetative state, then there is no point.

The Judge relies solely on expert medical testimony.

Gee, this sounds familiar.

Where have I heard this before I wonder ...

A whole legal system was set up.

Courts for the prevention of hereditary illnesses were instituted called "Erbgesundheitsgerichte" (Hereditary Health Courts) and attached to the existing district courts as well as the Higher Courts.

Sitting on these were always one judge and two doctors (usually psychiatrists) present in court hearings of this nature. Witnesses and specialists could be called upon and the rules for civil procedure were to be normally applied.

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From:
Hitler's men pg 4

and this:

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In the middle of 1939 the end-phase of the administrative preparations of the euthanasia programme was started. It dealt almost entirely with keeping it secure and secret. The German people were under no circumstances to become suspicious and the project was to roll without any interference. It was therefore necessary to disguise the activities as much as possible.

Questionnaires had already been prepared by the psychiatric committee and advisers, and in October these were sent to the mental institutions of Germany. These questionnaires required answers to a number of questions including name, marital status, nationality, next of kin, whether regularly visited and by whom, who bore the financial responsibility and how long in the institution, how long sick, diagnosis, chief symptoms, whether bed-ridden, whether under restraint, whether suffering from an incurable sickness or complaint, and whether a war injury or not. And, what was the race of the patient. These questionnaires were prepared and sent out by one of the front groups which operated under T4.

In classic psychiatric style four front groups had been set up to shield the actual source of the operations in T4 from scrutiny.

The idea being essentially that T4 itself would issue orders to the front group who would then carry out the necessary measures. Anybody seeking to trace back the administrative chain, say from a hospital where patients were being taken to be murdered, would arrive at one of these four front groups and the chances of getting any further back than that were very small.

...

Ironically the relatives of the patients were charged with the cost of the killing, without however being informed as to what they were paying for. The questionnaires having been sent out were completed by the psychiatrists, doctors in charge of the patients in the asylums.

When the questionnaires came back they were evaluated by the psychiatric and professional members of T4 who were mainly leading professors of psychiatry in German Universities.

**** The whole business was in keeping with the euthanasia programme in that no one was ever actually examined in person, in direct violation of any normal medical approach or standards*****, especially when one considers that life or death hung on the decision of the psychiatrist evaluating.

Processing of the questionnaires was done very rapidly; for example one expert between November 14th and December 1st 1940 evaluated 2,109 of them.

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From:
Hitler's men pg 6

Scary, huh?

History is repeating itself ...

[clee1]

Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

We are witness to the final days of our Republic.