Posted on 03/21/2005 3:38:56 PM PST by goldstategop
RUSH: Brian in Ocean City, Maryland. Glad you waited, sir. Welcome to the program.
CALLER: Thanks, Rush. My thing about this, you started to mention something in your argument before about we don't treat animals this way, and I noticed you caught yourself because we wouldn't keep an animal alive like this because we would consider it cruel to the animal.
RUSH: I didn't catch myself at all. I wasn't going to make that point. It was going to be just the opposite. We go out of our way to protect animals.
CALLER: We do, but if an animal is hit by a car --
RUSH: We'll kick people off their land to protect animals.
CALLER: True.
RUSH: That's what's so convoluted about this. We will kick human beings off their land, prevent them from earning a living in order to protect an animal.
CALLER: We can, but once the animal is hurt, we don't keep -- you know, if that animal couldn't move we wouldn't say that--
RUSH: So why would we want to treat her like an animal? Let me turn it around. Why do we want to treat her like an animal?
CALLER: I don't think we should. That's exactly right. I was in a car accident four months ago and I was stuck in a room for three months. I couldn't walk, I couldn't get up, I couldn't move. That was torture to me. If I couldn't talk and I was stuck in a room like that, that is cruel and unusual punishment, to keep someone alive in that state where they can't communicate.
RUSH: All right. Look, you're speaking for yourself, and that's fine. I respect it. If that's the way you feel, get a living will and have it put in your other last will and testament file, so that there's no concern about it. But don't project what you would do onto others when you don't know. See, I think the trap of doing that is this is how you justify your position on this. "I wouldn't want it happening to me. And so if I wouldn't want it happening to me, I don't want it happening to Terri Schiavo." It's not anybody's decision but hers, and there were four people over the course of all of the trials and hearings before various judges in this case, there were four people that came forward, including her husband, who said that they recalled her saying she'd never want to live in a vegetative state or this sort of thing. Now, who knows? I mean, is that conclusive evidence? That's for courts to decide. Certainly isn't for me to decide. If a court wants to decide it's conclusive enough evidence, then they can, and apparently they have and they did. But people all my life have asked me this question. "Nah, I wouldn't want to live." You get into these philosophical discussions with people. Whether or not they actually constitute a statement that would be akin to placing it in your last will and testament is quite possibly a different thing. I mean, when you actually sit around and ponder it. I think this case is probably going to hatch a new living will industry if nothing else, because if there were just that, if there were some indication from her, then all these arguments wouldn't even be necessary, because we'd have the final authority from her, and it would be in something that is legally acceptable and understandable, signed and sworn, notarized and all that. That's not here.
So if any of you out there wouldn't want these circumstances for yourselves, I totally understand. I probably wouldn't either. But we make those decisions while we're healthy. Let you find yourself in a situation like this and you can't even imagine it. You can try, you can try to relate to it. You can't imagine it 'till it happens. It's at that point you have to decide if you can. But this game of projection is a risky thing. How many people have you heard say, "I wouldn't want to live like that," if they see a picture of somebody on TV in squalor or in a whole mess of trouble, "I wouldn't to want live like that." Well, go to that situation and then see what you'd say. You'd probably change your mind. The will to live is pretty strong in 99.99999% of all human beings, regardless of the circumstances they end up in.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: You know, Brian, from Ocean City, Maryland, I like to take people's arguments verbatim and react to them. He said that we wouldn't keep animals alive if they were in the state that Terri Schiavo is in. If that's the position, we don't starve animals to death because it's considered inhumane. We give them an injection, they never know, they fall asleep, and that's it. The other side won't say that Terri should be killed humanely. They try to say starvation is humane. There are more humane ways of ending a life than starvation, but, see, that then takes the cover away. If you remove the tube, and she can't feed herself, she just died, nobody's killed her. But if you end her life humanely as we do animals, then somebody has killed her. They know what this is about. They just want the cover.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
THE 'VAST LIFE-WING CONSPIRACY' AGAINST 'poor wittuw michael' SCHIAVO [FR Link page]
Broken bones, signs of strangulation, No CPR administered, the cremation outrage, and recent, hot: ACCIDENTAL CONFESSION ON LARRY KING?....And many quotes with info I was not aware of have been pasted there.
And a related one, also from Rush:
Right on Side of Life, Left on Side of Death
March 21, 2005
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_032105/content/mtcu.guest.html
Ping. Rush was great today. FReegards....
Liberal = Murdering Monsters from a Death Worshipping Culture
Her family is trying to think of how to smuggle ice cubes to Terri. It's really sad. I wish I could think of a good idea for them to sneak water to her. FReegards....
I didn't think they were allowed to visit according to some Freepers.
Are the parents being searched when visiting? If so that
is against the law without just cause.
How about a styrofoam cup w/lid with crushed ice tucked away
in a ladies purse?
Another red herring from her family.
Not all choices are easy, and most are pretending this is a slam dunk.
ML/NJ
"The Left wants to kill her slowly so nobody can put the blame on them for the dirty deed."
True. It would appear that the husband has committed the perfect murder. I suppose next we'll just take a gun to someone's head and charge the family for the bullet, taking our cue from the other side of the Pacific.
Think she'll last until Thursday? Someone Else died on a Thursday.
Where's a good troop when you need one.
I am feeling very dark about this now.
Bear with me for just a bit:
I heard an interesting conversation about Terri's case at the hospital where I work. It went on for quite a while, but what it essentially boiled down to was: "I'm uncomfortable with the idea of starving the woman to death, but I'm suprised that the medical staff bothers to treat any of her (probably numerous) infections."
The idea being, I suppose, that death by starvation was gruesome and preventable, but death by sepsis was somehow more "natural".
Death, by whatever means, is ugly. The question before us isn't, "Is death terrible/ugly?" but rather, "By allowing this woman to die of neglect, are we doing the moral thing?" As a society, do we want to give our relatives the right to decide whether or not we die? And which of our relatives makes the decision?
Bear with me for just a bit:
I heard an interesting conversation about Terri's case at the hospital where I work. It went on for quite a while, but what it essentially boiled down to was: "I'm uncomfortable with the idea of starving the woman to death, but I'm suprised that the medical staff bothers to treat any of her (probably numerous) infections."
The idea being, I suppose, that death by starvation was gruesome and preventable, but death by sepsis was somehow more "natural".
Death, by whatever means, is ugly. The question before us isn't, "Is death terrible/ugly?" but rather, "By allowing this woman to die of neglect, are we doing the moral thing?" As a society, do we want to give our relatives the right to decide whether or not we die? And which of our relatives makes the decision?
Just as the left would never support a war that is in the vital interests of the US, just as the left supports convicted murderers but persecutes the victims of crime, just as the left promotes the evil in this world, but hunts down and kills the innocents...
Mark
You know, I heard a tape recording today. Hannity took it seriously. Should I? Or is it part of the Vast Life-Wing Conspiracy?
Thank you for this post, gold state.
"...just as the left promotes the evil in this world, but hunts down and kills the innocents..."
Well said! FReegards....
The DEATH BUZZARDS are trying to circle over Terri Schiavo.
They want her dead.
"smuggle ice cubes "
any nurse or attendant in that facility should be doing the same thing, and more . . .
what is a job, IF they were to get caught and fired, if a human life can be saved, and at least made more comfortable, UNTIL the proper remedy is found and put into place.
Rush has no trouble seeing on which side of the street the band is marching on an issue.
FReeper getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
Too bad FDR isn't still alive to add his voice to that of the entire liberal side of the spectrum. But what would William Jennings Bryan say, I wonder?
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.