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Starvation is humane, right? What a bunch of pure Barbara Streisand. What Rush is saying to the Left is, you don't starve animals to death; you people give them a lethal injection - at least the animal rights wackos demand humane treatment for the beasts. But they evince no such compassion for a human being. See, if they injected her with poison, its murder. The Left wants to kill her slowly so nobody can put the blame on them for the dirty deed. For the Left, its cover your ass time.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
1 posted on 03/21/2005 3:39:11 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
Can I call you a member of.....?

THE 'VAST LIFE-WING CONSPIRACY' AGAINST 'poor wittuw michael' SCHIAVO [FR Link page]

Broken bones, signs of strangulation, No CPR administered, the cremation outrage, and recent, hot: ACCIDENTAL CONFESSION ON LARRY KING?....And many quotes with info I was not aware of have been pasted there.

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2 posted on 03/21/2005 3:41:55 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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To: goldstategop

And a related one, also from Rush:

Right on Side of Life, Left on Side of Death

March 21, 2005


http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_032105/content/mtcu.guest.html


3 posted on 03/21/2005 3:42:13 PM PST by QQQQQ
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Ping. Rush was great today. FReegards....


4 posted on 03/21/2005 3:42:57 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (<<<< Profile page streamlined, solely devoted Schiavo research)
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You know, this is all well and good in the fantasy world that liberals usually live in. But I don't live there, and I don't want my children to be burdened with me if I cannot recognize them or Mozart for a stretch of three months. I don't want them to kill me artificially (injection) and I don't want them to sustain me artificially (feeding tubes and/or other medical industry enrichment artifices). I guess I see starvation as more G-dly, or natural if one prefers that euphemism.

Not all choices are easy, and most are pretending this is a slam dunk.

ML/NJ

8 posted on 03/21/2005 3:55:36 PM PST by ml/nj
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"The Left wants to kill her slowly so nobody can put the blame on them for the dirty deed."

True. It would appear that the husband has committed the perfect murder. I suppose next we'll just take a gun to someone's head and charge the family for the bullet, taking our cue from the other side of the Pacific.

Think she'll last until Thursday? Someone Else died on a Thursday.

Where's a good troop when you need one.

I am feeling very dark about this now.


9 posted on 03/21/2005 3:56:46 PM PST by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch.)
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I think that the, "we don't starve 'x' to death" argument is a red herring.

Bear with me for just a bit:

I heard an interesting conversation about Terri's case at the hospital where I work. It went on for quite a while, but what it essentially boiled down to was: "I'm uncomfortable with the idea of starving the woman to death, but I'm suprised that the medical staff bothers to treat any of her (probably numerous) infections."

The idea being, I suppose, that death by starvation was gruesome and preventable, but death by sepsis was somehow more "natural".

Death, by whatever means, is ugly. The question before us isn't, "Is death terrible/ugly?" but rather, "By allowing this woman to die of neglect, are we doing the moral thing?" As a society, do we want to give our relatives the right to decide whether or not we die? And which of our relatives makes the decision?

10 posted on 03/21/2005 4:04:01 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: goldstategop
I think that the, "we don't starve 'x' to death" argument is a red herring.

Bear with me for just a bit:

I heard an interesting conversation about Terri's case at the hospital where I work. It went on for quite a while, but what it essentially boiled down to was: "I'm uncomfortable with the idea of starving the woman to death, but I'm suprised that the medical staff bothers to treat any of her (probably numerous) infections."

The idea being, I suppose, that death by starvation was gruesome and preventable, but death by sepsis was somehow more "natural".

Death, by whatever means, is ugly. The question before us isn't, "Is death terrible/ugly?" but rather, "By allowing this woman to die of neglect, are we doing the moral thing?" As a society, do we want to give our relatives the right to decide whether or not we die? And which of our relatives makes the decision?

11 posted on 03/21/2005 4:04:38 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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Just as the left would never support a war that is in the vital interests of the US, just as the left supports convicted murderers but persecutes the victims of crime, just as the left promotes the evil in this world, but hunts down and kills the innocents...

Mark


12 posted on 03/21/2005 4:06:19 PM PST by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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Thank you for this post, gold state.


14 posted on 03/21/2005 4:08:13 PM PST by Miss Behave (Man who fart in church sit in own pew.)
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Rush has no trouble seeing on which side of the street the band is marching on an issue.


18 posted on 03/21/2005 4:09:57 PM PST by jolie560
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Isn't it PETA who's always going after animal trainers, like in the circus business because they will often withhold food and water so the animals won't relieve themselves while onstage or in an arena? THese so called groups will fight for an elephant who's had to wait an extra two hours for food and drink, but not for a human? This world freaking *^*^$(*&%*%&#$%^#!!!!

FReeper getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

19 posted on 03/21/2005 4:12:55 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (Breaking & Entering -- Isn't the *United States* our home?)
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And once again the great "lovers of the poor" show their true colors. Even Rep. John Lewis, the "hero" of the civil rights movement, was there advocating that this woman be starved to death.

Too bad FDR isn't still alive to add his voice to that of the entire liberal side of the spectrum. But what would William Jennings Bryan say, I wonder?

20 posted on 03/21/2005 4:16:47 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Barukh Mordekhai! 'Arur Haman!)
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If only Terri were on death row, the entire left would be mobilized to save her.
Remember Carla Faye Tucker?
27 posted on 03/21/2005 4:23:53 PM PST by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...

Please let me know if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

33 posted on 03/21/2005 4:47:13 PM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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If you did this to a dog, they would lock you up. It sadly says a lot about our society.


36 posted on 03/21/2005 5:07:08 PM PST by conservativecorner
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MedBlog doctor questions Terri's brain scan. Must read!
43 posted on 03/21/2005 5:21:29 PM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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If you remove the tube, and she can't feed herself, she just died, nobody's killed her.

I disagree, El Rushbo...

If Terri's feeding tube is not reinserted, she will die of starvation the same way a person or animal would die if locked in a room with no food available. It will be an act of homocide if Terri dies and her death certificate should accurately state the cause of death as 'starvation' as ordered by the estranged husband and upheld by Judge George Greer. Anything less would be a lie to humanity......

45 posted on 03/21/2005 5:28:20 PM PST by eeriegeno
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I think this sums up why I am so very troubled about this. Last year, I lost my dear little schnauzer, Polly. One cold Sunday morning in November, she couldn't get up. For 24 hours, I carried her food and water to her bed, changed her doggie diapers, and held her in my arms while she slept. The next day I had to take her to the vet. After he examined her and did some x-rays, he told me that she had a tumor on her spine and that it would be cruel to keep her alive because she was suffering. I held her in my arms again as he gave her the injection that immediately ended her life.

Last year, I also lost my mother and my only aunt to cancer. Both of them technically starved to death -- they quit eating and drinking, gradually. The doctors explained that, because of the advanced state of their cancer, it would be cruel to prolong their misery with IVs and feeding tubes. They were both heavily medicated because of the cancer pain, but the doctor at the hospice facility told me that my mother was also suffering the pain of dehydration and starvation. No one will ever, ever convince me that this is a painless, easy way to die. Nevertheless, I think that there is a vast difference between a terminally ill person and one who is not ill, but simply has suffered an injury that makes it impossible for them to care for themselves.

If the kind of injection that was given to my Polly had been available and legal for my mother, I'm sure that she, as well as I, would have happily chosen it for her instead of the slow and painful death by starvation and dehydration. But I never would have presumed to make that decision for her, no matter how much it hurt me to watch her suffering and be helpless to ease it.

47 posted on 03/21/2005 5:29:21 PM PST by pollyg107
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I have to admit that I don't completly understand all the legal arguments on both sides of this issue. But in my heart I know that it is wrong to kill this woman. I just can't see where the harm is in letting her live. Who is hurt by that?


48 posted on 03/21/2005 5:33:09 PM PST by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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