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[Ravi]

Just heard on Fox that U.S. Senate will convene today in emergency session regarding Terri Schiavo.

[OXENinFLA]

LKL

CALLER: Yes. Does it bother you that the death is so slow? Maybe Dr. Kevorkian-style would be a faster, more peaceful way?

M. SCHIAVO: Removing somebody's feeding is very painless. It is a very easy way to die. Probably the second better way to die, being the first being an aneurysm.

And it doesn't bother me at all. I've seen it happen. I had to do it with my own parents.

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OMG!!!

[Quix]

Perhaps this is a situation where

NONE of us

KNOW

enough to have a sound opinion about it.

[D Edmund Joaquin]

People seem to warm to MRS for some reason.

well you know, evil doesnt always come looking ugly, but just the opposite, it is usually quite attractive, and that's why people are drawn to it and its adherents

[Aliska]

Do you have a link?

It's on the Larry King interview transcript. I have to run for a bit, but when I get back, if no one's come up with it, I'll see if I can find it.

[Cold Heat]

Have you?

Sounds to me like you have not.

[Theodore R.]

George W. Greer, though a "Republican" member of the Pinellas County Commission in the 1980s, was elected on a nonpartisan ballot for judge in 1992, 1998, and 2004. People in the county admire him. Many voted for him to kill Terri or just because they had heard of him and did not recognize his conservative opponent.

[Txsleuth]

Delay said there was bi-partisan and bi-cameral support but he didn't say that it was enough to PASS I don't think, otherwise why have the whole Senate come in---couldn't Frist just call for a unanimous consent thingy?

[Theodore R.]

They should amend the Americans with Disabilities Act to cover situations like this.

[BCrago66]

That was my point. Maybe I garbled my words.

[bigeasy_70118]

My personal opinion is that as republicans we ought to respect the Constitution, regardless of the ends we wish to achieve. I want to save this woman's life but I want to do in a constitutional manner. It looks like this Act, is simply going to expand the jurisdiction of the federal judiciary to review this case. A brillant move and as far as I can tell, totally constitutional.

[amystitz]

SCHIAVO: Removing somebody's feeding is very painless. It is a very easy way to die. Probably the second better way to die, being the first being an aneurysm.

And it doesn't bother me at all. I've seen it happen. I had to do it with my own parents.

[OXENinFLA]

Oh yippy, C-span callers................

[wisconsinconservative]

I have a theorectical question. IF (God forbid) MS is able to kill Terri before they can have the tube re-inserted. MS and Jodi would not be able to get married for some time to come if the Schindlers sue for wrongful death, correct?

[nmh]

I know this to be true:

The black triangle was the badge of the “asocial “ people under the Nazis.

We chose this as our logo because from our understanding it is the one that was worn by handicapped prisoners in Nazi Germany. The following describes the program.

Nazis, Eugenics and the t-4 Program (1920-1950)

It is not widely known that Hitler’s extermination policies began with the widespread killing of institutionalized disabled people in Germany in the 1940s, and that the eugenics theories that were the basis for Hitler’s policies originated in the United States in the 1920s. Sterilization and euthanasia were not the ideas of the Nazis. Germany, however, was the only country (at that time) in which the political climate allowed materialization of the final goal of sterilization and euthanasia.

The project that carried out the extermination of children and adults with disabilities was known as “T4”. The initials came from Tiegartenstrasse 4, Berlin, which was the full address of the Furher Chancellery. The T4 Project included four organizations: 1) The Realms Work Committee in charge of collecting information on candidates for euthanasia from questionnaires sent to hospitals, 2) The Realms Committee for Scientific Approach to Severe Illness Due to Heredity set up exclusively to apply euthanasia to children,

3) The Charitable Company for the Transport of the Sick, which transported patients to the killing centers, and 4) The Charitable Foundation for Institutional Care, in charge of final disposition of the victims’ remains. At Hadamar Mental Institution, the victims were stripped, dressed in paper shirts and taken to a gas chamber where they were murdered with hydrocyanic acid gas. The bodies were moved to crematoriums by conveyer belts, six bodies to each furnace. The psychiatrist in charge at Hadamar was Dr. Adolf Wahlmann, an active member of the German Mental Hygiene Movement. After information about the exterminations began to filter down to the German public, some members of the clergy started speaking out against the program. Hitler ordered the T4 program to stop killing patients in gas chambers. Instead, the program went underground and victims were poisoned or starved to death. On May 8, 1945, the war ended in Germany. In the extermination institutes, they either kept on killing or let the patients starve to death. As late as May 29, 1945, a four year-old, “feeble-minded” boy was murdered in Kaufbeuren. Estimates of how many disabled people died under the Nazis, range up to 250,000.

The extermination program in Nazi Germany caused eugenics theorists in the United States and Europe to backpedal on their beliefs about eliminating mental illness and congenital disabilities through euthanasia. However, sterilization of with disabilities continued to be a widespread practice well into the 1970s.

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My Grandfather's brother was mentally retarded due to a high fever. His mother hide him in the wine cellar or basement during the war. Later another child joined him that was retarded. The entire village kept quiet about it because they weren't sold on Hitler and didn't trust him.

Even after the war was over she REFUSED to have ANYONE else care for her son. It wasn't a burden to care for him. She loved him.

[Theodore R.]

The measure of a society is how they treat the least of us. Life is sacred or meaningless, there is nothing in between.”

The late Democrat HHH, who had a retarded child himself, said this or something like it years ago. Pat Buchanan used that quote in his two Republican campaigns in the 1990s.

[Annie03]

Jay Wolfson's report is linked at that same website. The timeline is more complete there.

[OXENinFLA]

I don't think they'd come back in session if they didn't know it would pass.

[Former Military Chick]

Thank you for the comment. It is my belief that marriage should remain at the state level. I have no interests getting congress involved for the purpose of take the say out of the husbands hands.

My husband loves me and you have said yours loves you and both would do what is right by both you and I. Yet, if by chance he does not honor my wishes then I make one hell of a foolish decision when I walked down the aisle to marry him.

To clearly express ones' wishes is important. Not only should we put it in writing but also if feasible also on video so there are no questions or doubts. As a military wife and former military I have had such documents of that nature around not all have had the same need and for those who have not given this thought I do hope they use this case to make sure they have all their wishes up to date.

Again, thank you for such a thoughtful reply.

[Theodore R.]

This time Hildy is right. Popular George W. Greer said this week that no one could stop this execution! (not his exact words)

[TightyRighty]

Hey Hildy, now you are not only part of the "pro death gang" but now you have a fascination with crap? I'll say it again...you gotta love these Terri threads. If you don't agree with every iota they'll do everything they can to tar and feather ya!