"TODAY MARCH 18TH STARVATION DAY #1 FOR TERRI SCHIAVO...FREEP FOR HER LIFE" (Thread 2)

various ^ | 3/17/2005 | various

[tutstar]

At Admin request new thread!

Link to first thread.

[Ohioan from Florida]

They should be able to be there, at least part of the time, and with the guards there, maybe even most of the time.

[Pegita]

Heavenly Father, we return to thank You that we cannot see the battle that rages in the Heavenlies as the forces for evil contend with the forces for good. Yet we get a glimpse as we see the forces from both sides gather around the room of this mother's child. The darkness is overpowering, O God, yet darkness cannot stand in the presence of light. We continue to pray for the life of this mother's child, even when all avenues of hope seem to be disappearing. Yet You are God. In Your hand is the life of every living thing and the breath of all mankind. You empowered David to be victorious over the mighty Goliath. You winnowed the numbers to the fewest before directing Gideon to act. You had the widow appear before the unrelenting judge numerous times before he rendered justice. We know not Your plan, Merciful Father ... we know only that You are God. We know only that Terri is powerless before the onslaught. Send that one, O God, who will snatch her from the grip of the enemy. We have tried, and we cannot. But You are God, and our trust is in You. In the Name of Jesus, we pray, Amen ...

[pollywog]

CSPAN Santorium talking about TERRI CASE NOW!!!

[TAdams8591]

Utterly Barbaric!!!!!

[Wampus SC]

"Sean Hannity just announced that the US House of Represenatives do not want to suppport the federal bill."

And someone else just posted that SCOTUS denied Gibbs's motion. WHERE HAS MY COUNTRY GONE? WWII vets who fought this same evil must wonder if it was worth it. I know Viet Nam vets who wonder now, because of what's happened to Terri.

[pollywog]

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan2_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS2

[Schiminie]

Here is the link:

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan2_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS2

[ruoflaw]

Amen

[don-o]

Thank you, dear one.

The "removing the tube" language has put a spin on the whole matter. People equate it to ventilators. I have seen that, as well. Mother-in-law on one for 27 days while the doctors tried to diagnose. Horrible that was, because, it turned out she was terminal when they put her on it.

Had we known she was terinal, we would have, in good conscience, denied the artifical repiration.

[FR_addict]

Thanks for the link bizzzymom.
This story has lots of information in it. I think we can post cnn in it's entirety
It needs a separate thread too.

Supreme Court rejects Schiavo appeal
Feeding tube to be removed from brain-damaged woman Friday
Friday, March 18, 2005 Posted: 0245 GMT (1045 HKT)

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/17/schiavo.brain-damaged/

(CNN) -- Less than 18 hours before Terri Schiavo was scheduled to have her life-sustaining feeding tube removed, the U.S. Supreme Court rejected an emergency appeal by her parents to stop the procedure.

The court rejected the appeal by Bob and Mary Schindler on Thursday, clearing the way for Schiavo's husband, Michael, to have the feeding tube removed Friday -- 15 years after she collapsed from heart failure that led to her brain damage.

Meanwhile, legislation that would keep her alive appeared to stall in the Florida Legislature and the U.S. Congress.

With time running out in the case, President Bush weighed in on the matter Thursday, saying society and the nation's courts "should have a presumption in favor of life" on such matters.

"Those who live at the mercy of others deserve our special care and concern. It should be our goal as a nation to build a culture of life, where all Americans are valued, welcomed and protected -- and that culture of life must extend to individuals with disabilities," Bush said in a written statement.

The Schindlers filed an emergency appeal early Thursday with the Supreme Court to stop the feeding tube from being removed, arguing that their daughter's religious freedom and due process rights were being violated. But at 7 p.m., the high court rejected the appeal without comment.

On another front, the Florida Supreme Court rejected a request for a stay by the state's Department of Children and Families, citing a lack of jurisdiction. The agency had argued that it needed time to investigate allegations of abuse by Schiavo's husband.

In Washington, the U.S. Senate passed a narrower version of a House bill that would give federal courts jurisdiction in Schiavo's case. The House passed a broader bill Wednesday that would give federal courts jurisdiction, not only for the Schiavo case, but also for people in similar conditions.

With the House in recess for Easter, it appeared that a compromise bill would not make its way to Bush's desk, because there was not enough time to reconcile the differences.

The Senate's bill prompted a terse response from House Speaker Dennis Hastert and House Majority Leader Tom DeLay.

"House Republicans knew we had a moral obligation to act and we did just that last night," they said in a joint statement. "As Terri Schiavo lays helpless in Florida, one day away from the unthinkable and unforgivable, the Senate Democrats refused to join Republicans to act on her behalf."

In response, Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid shot back, "If the House Republicans refuse to pass our bipartisan bill, they bear responsibility for the consequences."

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said he was proud of the Senate bill and called on the House to follow its lead.

"To knowingly and purposely starve Ms. Schiavo to death would be callous, cruel and immoral," said Frist, a doctor. "I am hopeful that the House will consider and pass this legislation quickly."

Bills in the Florida legislature also seemed to fizzle by late Thursday.

Lower courts have ruled that Schiavo, 41, is in a "persistent vegetative state."

Michael Schiavo contends his wife would not want to be kept alive artificially. But her parents argue she had no such death wish and believe she can get better with rehabilitation.

Both sides have been embroiled in a legal wrangle over whether Schiavo should live or die. Schiavo did not leave anything in writing about what she would want if she ever became incapacitated.

Courts have sided with her husband in more than a dozen cases over the years.

A probate court late last month ruled that, barring a stay, Schiavo's feeding tube would be removed at 1 p.m. Friday. Upon removal of the tube, the court estimated Schiavo would die in seven to 14 days.

Her feeding tube has been removed twice before, most recently in 2003. That year, Gov. Jeb Bush pushed a law through the Florida Legislature that authorized him to resume the woman's feedings six days after a court stopped them. The Florida Supreme Court later ruled the law unconstitutional.

[wildandcrazyrussian]

It will become clear in retrospect whether we have undergone a hidden revolution, whose ramifications will work out in years to come, and which will devour its adherents when they are powerless to undo it. Judge Greer is 63 years old, and fifteen years from now he could very well find himself being starved to death in a hospice.

This moment will be remembered for centuries to come as a turning point in American history, as infamous as January 22, 1973, both cases a result of the judicial system arrogating power the writers of our Constitution never intended.

[Wampus SC]

The tube was surgically removed on Oct. 15, 2003, as the agents of satan cheered. They will be out in bigger numbers tomorrow waiting for their next victory."

It'll be a day unlike any we've ever seen, both offline and here.

I accept, but dread, the judgement that may fall on this country because of this.

[Schiminie]

They are talking about the two versions.

Said there will be meetings tomorrow.

They will talk about passing the house bill but won't be able to take a vote on that until MONDAY!

Call your Senators NOW!

MONDAY IS TOO LATE!

[SilentServiceCPOWife]

Thank you.

[CindyDawg]

Fine. I want everyone of them to fast and go without water until Monday and see what they think of this "mercy killing" then.

[DJ MacWoW]

Greer ordered only photos and the court will hold the photos until Terri is dead.

[pollywog]

Call your Senators NOW!

MONDAY IS TOO LATE!

I wonder if Governor Bush could issue a hold on her until this bill is through.

[atruelady]

Poor Terri. She must be terrified to see them there.

[ContraryMary]

Actually, I think Annie is correct. Michael has to provide the videographer -- at his own expense.

[texasbluebell]

Oh, no, I was copying the post by amdgmary, that's why I put it in quote marks!

I'm not in Florida.