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Deceit, Thy Name Is Islamism
Isralert.com source ^ | Beth Goodtree

Posted on 03/13/2005 1:11:03 PM PST by jan in Colorado

In Islam, lying or omissions for the 'greater good,' according to a strict or radical Islam/Islamist philosophy is not only acceptable, it is holy and blessed work. It is called al-Takeyya (or al-Taqiyya) and is a strategy outlined in the Hadiths and supported by various interpretations of some of the Suras in the Koran. We have just seen it in action and most people never even caught the whiff of mental ether the Islamists were pouring into the airways of the already comatose and choking non-Islamist world.

Al-Takeyya is a policy whereby a Muslim may lie, deceive or omit critical truths if it promotes the spreading of Islam AND the conquest of the non-Muslim world. According to William P. Welty, Ph.D., al-Takeyya/Taqiyya is:

"The Islamic principle of lying for the sake of Allah. Falsehoods told to prevent denigration of Islam, to protect oneself, or to promote the cause of Islam are sanctioned by the Qur'an, including lying under penalty of perjury in testimony before the United States Congress, lying or making distorted statements to the media such as claiming that Islam is a religion of peace and deceiving fellow Muslims when the one lying has deemed them to be apostates." (1)

And here is the definition from an Islam encyclopedia website:

"The word "al-Taqiyya" literally means: "Concealing or disguising one's beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies..." (2)

Now here's where the latest Islamist sneak maneuver of al Takeyya/Taqiyya comes into play. The Islamic Commission of Spain issued a decree against al-Qaeda terrorist leader Osama bin Laden. They did this in response to the bombing of a Madrid train last year by al Qaeda.

Mansur Escudero, head of the Federation of Islamic Religious Entities, called on clerics to formally condemn terrorism and pray for all terror victims. He went on to state, ''The terrorist acts of Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda organization ... which result in the death of civilians, such as women and children ... are totally prohibited and are the object of strong condemnation within Islam.''

Sounds good so far.

But let's examine what this man did not say, as well as the timing of his little media-sensation fatwa.

This fatwa was timed to coincide with the 1-year anniversary of the bombing in Madrid. Sure, several hundred people died, but this is not the first time that hundreds, nay, thousands of people have died at the hands of Muslims merely because they weren't Muslim.

Therefore, one must ask why was there no such fatwa issued in the aftermath of 9-11? And why has no fatwa about the "...death of civilians, such as women and children'' ever been issued regarding the thousands upon thousands of Jewish/Israeli victims of genocidal terror ever been issued?

I will tell you why. This is al-Takeyya/Taqiyya at its most devious and deceptive. And the key word here is 'civilians.'

In radical Islam (Islamism), any Jew living in Israel is not considered either 'innocent' or a 'civilian.' Nor were the people living and working in America on 9-11. Islamists consider the 'Great Satan -- America,' and the 'Little Satan -- Israel,' to be enemy combatants. And this includes every man, woman or child, even babes in arms, even sleeping or in school or playing in playgrounds. This includes any and all who are not Islamists and who oppose being forced to kneel down and pay homage to Allah or his followers. In particular, Christians (whom they call 'Crusaders'), and Jews.

This also includes those of us who refuse to allow the Islamists to insidiously inject their politico-religious dogma into our way of life. And this especially includes Israel, whom the Islamists view as a polluting force in their quest for 'Arab unity' and a Judenrein Middle East.

So the fatwa issued by this Muslim cleric living in Spain was meant to put the free and civilized world into yet another coma. He was hoping we would see this supposedly 'peaceful and tolerant' religious edict and sing the praises of Islam and remind each other how it is a 'peaceful' religion, even though the word 'Islam' also means 'to submit,' and our utter and complete submission is what they are working towards.

The crafter of this latest religious edict, so proudly trumpeted to the world, has achieved nothing more than a clumsy attempt to delude us into thinking that Islamism is really nice and honorable and loving and peaceful. It is also meant to deceive us into believing that even though such edicts were never issued -- and will never be issued -- regarding Americans or Israelis, these particular Muslims are mainstream moderates.

Camel cakes! We are now familiar with the ploy of lying, omissions and deceit as sanctioned by al-Takeyya/Taqiyya. And some of us are not in a humanist/liberal feel-good coma like lambs going to the slaughter. And we will continue to alert you to the deceptions used by the Islamists.

The lesson to be learned here is not to look for what is said, but what is deliberately not said. If anything, this fatwa, by its omissions and timing (or lack thereof) has simply reinforced the fact that the Islamists do not see Israel or Judeo-Christian America as 'innocent.' It has reaffirmed that they see us all as ripe for deceit and murder in the name of Allah.


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To: Fred Nerks
Some more stuff from http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/heaven.html

The X-RATED PARADISE OF ISLAM

In this article I shall describe the Islamic Paradise or Jannat which was invented by Prophet Mohammed to bribe the Arabs into committing hedious crimes by promising them materialistic things which they couldn't obtain in the harsh desert. The paradise contains six important items: beautiful virgins, young boys, water, wine, fruits and wealth.

To prove my point I have taken verses from the Koran and quotes from the Hadiths.

VIRGINS (HOURIS)

Mohammed knew that sex would sell very well among the group of his lecherous followers who were motivated to fight battles by the promise of sex slaves and booty. By constantly emphasizing to his followers that they would get untouched virgins in Paradise, Mohammed is clearly expressing his "high" opinion of the institution of marriage and his fairness to women. Once the followers go to heaven, they can conveniently ditch their wives for the fresher and more pleasurable sexual encounters with 'Houris' (beautiful virgins). Not only that, the poor wives who gave up their virginity for the pleasure of their husbands do not get even one Male Sex Bomb. But wait, Allah is all merciful! He gives the wives the rare honour of watching their husbands deflower those 72 Houris (virgins) and 28 young pre-pubescent boys.

The relevant verses from the Koran are:

Koran 78:31
As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high- bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup.

Koran 37:40-48
...They will sit with bashful, dark-eyed virgins, as chaste as the sheltered eggs of ostriches.

Koran 44:51-55
...Yes and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houris. (beautiful virgins)

Koran 52:17-20
...They shall recline on couches ranged in rows. To dark-eyed houris (virgins) we shall wed them...

Koran 55:56-57
In them will be bashful virgins neither man nor Jinn will have touched before.Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"

Koran 55:57-58
Virgins as fair as corals and rubies. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"

Koran 56:7-40
...We created the houris (the beautiful women) and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand.. "

Koran 55:70-77
"In each there shall be virgins chaste and fair... Dark eyed virgins sheltered in their tents whom neither man nor Jin will have touched before..

In the Hadiths, Mohammed goes one step further and expands the promise of virgins to include a free sex market where there is no limit of the number of sexual partners. Women and young boys are on display as if in a fruit market where you can choose the desired ripeness.

Quote from Hadiths

Al Hadis, Vol. 4, p. 172, No. 34
Ali reported that the Apostle of Allah said, "There is in Paradise a market wherein there will be no buying or selling, but will consist of men and women. When a man desires a beauty, he will have intercourse with them."

YOUNG BOYS

Homosexuality was and is widely practised in Islamic conutries. To please the homosexuals among his followers he promised them pre-pubescent boys in Paradise. So after committing plunder, loot, rape and murder in this life, the followers of Islam get "rewarded" by untouched virginal youths who are fresh like pearls.

The relevant verses from the Koran are:

Koran 52:24
Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.

Koran 56:17
Round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness.

Koran 76:19
And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.

As mentioned in my previous article, famous poets in Arabia glorified homosexuality. As an example I am including a poem in 'Perfumed Garden' by Abu Nuwas:
O the joy of sodomy!
So now be sodomites, you Arabs.
Turn not away from it--
therein is wondrous pleasure.
Take some coy lad with kiss-curls
twisting on his temple
and ride as he stands like some gazelle
standing to her mate.
A lad whom all can see girt with sword
and belt not like your whore who has
to go veiled.
Make for smooth-faced boys and do your
very best to mount them, for women are
the mounts of the devils


Need I say anything more after this colorful rendition by Abu Nuwas ?

WATER

One of the major problems in the desert of Arabia was shortage of pure water. Mohammed knew very well that to the Arabians, fresh water was an item of luxury. So promising them abundant pure water, river, fountains and springs in paradise would defintely lure them to murder, loot and plunder people of other religions in this life.

The relevant verses from the Koran are:

Koran 13:35
This is the paradise which the righteous have been promised: it is watered by running streams..

Koran 3:198
As for those that fear their Lord, theirs shall be gardens watered by running streams in which they will abide for ever, and a goodly welcome from God...

Koran 3:136
...These shall be rewarded with forgiveness from their Lord and with gardens watered by running streams, where they shall dwell forever. Blessed is the reward of those who do good works..

Koran 15:45
The righteous (will be) amid gardens and fountains (of clear flowing water)

Koran 22:23
As for those who have faith and who do good work, God will admit them to gardens watered by running streams..

Koran 47:15
Here is a Parable Of the Garden which the righteneous are promised: In it are rivers of water incorruptible;

Koran 55:50-51
In them each will be two springs flowing free; Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?

Koran 55:66-67
In them will be Two Springs pouring forth water in continuous abundance:Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?

Koran 44:51-55
As for the righteous, they shall be lodged in peace together amidst gardens and fountains...

Koran 56:7-40
...They shall recline on couches raised on high in the shade of thornless Lote trees and talhs; amidst gushing water...

WINEMohammed had to find more selling points besides virgins, young boys and plenty of water. What good would be of Paradise without rivers of wine for his followers? Wine was an extremely precious commodity in the dry deserts of Arabia where it was rare to find vineyards. Mohammed had a problem here- he had to include wine in his 'Paradise-Package' but how could he include it in the list when Allah had declared intoxicants as sinful. The only way to do this was to somehow claim that the wine in the promised Paradise was not intoxicating and therefore not sinful. Never mind the fact that wine by nature contains alcohol which is intoxicating.

The relevant verses from the Koran are:

Koran 47:15
Here is a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised. In it are...rivers of wine...

Koran 37:40-48
But the true servants of God shall be well provided for,...they shall be served with goblet filled at a gushing fountain, white and delicious to those who drink it. It will neither dull their senses nor befuddle them.

Koran 56:7-40
They shall recline on jewelled couches face to face, and there shalt wait on them immortal youths with bowls and ewers and a cup of purest wine:

Koran 83:23-26
The righteous will surely dwell in bliss. Reclining upon soft couches they will gaze around them: and in their faces you shall mark the glow of joy. They shall be given a pure wine to drink, securely sealed, whose very dregs are musk...

FRUITSSo far Mohammed has presented a very appetizing picture of Paradise, but then it struck him that sex is no fun on an empty stomach. Besides that one needs lots of nutrition in order to have the energy to perform with so many Houris and young boys. The prophet was an expert on this subject having honoured every one of his numerous wives and mistresses with a nightly visitation on one single night. Besides the only fruits he had ever gotten to taste in this life was some dates and dry pomegranates. So heaven had to be furbished with an inexhaustible supply of every variety of fruits.

The relevant verses from the Koran are:

Koran 13:35
This is the paradise which the righteous have been promised.. eternal are its fruits, and eternal are its shades..

Koran 37:40-48
But the true servants of God shall be well provided for, festing on fruit and honoured in the gardens of delight...

Koran 43:68-73
...Such will be the garden of which ye are made heirs for your deeds. Ye shall have therein abundance of fruit, from which ye shall have satisfaction.

Koran 47:15
Here is a Parable Of the Garden which the righteneous are promised: ...In it are rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; And rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; And grace from their Lord..

Koran 55:47-49
Containing all kinds of trees and delights.Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?

Koran 55:52-53
In them there will be fruits of every kind, two and two. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?

Koran 55:54-55
...The fruit of the gardens will be near and easy to reach. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?

Koran 55:68-69
In them will be Fruits, And dates and pomegranates: Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?

Koran 44:51-55
...Secure against all ills, they shall call for every kind of fruit..

Koran 56:7-40
They shall recline on jewelled couches face to face, and there shalt wait on them immortal youths with ...fruits of their own choices and flesh of fowls that they relish..

Koran 76:13-21
...Reclining there upon soft couches, they shall feel neither the scorching heat nor the biting cold. Trees will spread their shade around them, and fruits will hang in clusters over them...

But the best was yet to come. The highlight of life in Islamic Pardise is the fact that one doesn't have to go to the toilet. All merciful Allah had miraculously provides a much better system for getting rid of body waste. You simple sweat it out (probably after all that sex or belch after consuming all that fruit and wine)

Quote from the Hadiths:

Sahih Muslim Book 39, Number 6798, Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah:
I heard Allah's Apostle (pbuh) as saying that the inmates of Paradise would eat and drink but would neither spit, nor pass water, nor void excrement, nor suffer catarrh. It was said: Then, what would happen with food? Thereupon he said: They would belch and sweat (and it would be over with their food), and their sweat would be that of musk and they would glorify and praise Allah as easily as you breathe."

WEALTHMohammed wanted to ensure that his followers would not be obsessed with 'worldly things' in this life. So he made sure that they have plenty of worldly things to pursue in heaven.

The relevant verses from the Koran are:

Koran 22:23
As for those who have faith and who do good work, God will admit them to gardens watered by running streams. They shall be decked with pearls and bracelets of gold, and arrayed in garments of silk.

Koran 43:68-73
Enter ye the Garden, Ye and your wives, in beauty and rejoicing. To them will be passed round, dishes and goblets of gold: there will be there all that soul could desire, all that the eyes could delight in: and ye shall abide there in..

Koran 55:70-77
..They shall recline on green cushions and fine carpets. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?

Koran 44:51-55
As for the righteous, they shall be lodged in peace together amidst gardens and fountains, arrayed in rich silks and fine brocade...

Koran 55:54-55
They will recline on carpets, whose inner linings will be of rich brocade...

Koran 56:7-40
They shall recline on jewelled couches..

Koran 76:13-21
..They shall be arrayed in garments of fine green silk and rich brocade,and adorned with bracelets of silver..

Mohammed's promise of an Islamic Paradise that glittered with the fulfillment of all sorts of wordly desires and sense enjoyment was nothing but a sinister ploy to recruit those who had no hope or expectation of ever getting these things in their present lives. Knowing that they are assured of such a Paradise simply because they follow Islam, Muslims can go around committing murder, rape plunder and loot. It is the picture of this paradise that has motivated Muslims over the centuries to cut down people of other religions, to desecrate their places of worship and mistreat them in the name of Allah. Even after death, the spritually deprived Prophet of Islam could not see beyond wine, women and food, leave alone exploring spiritual heights of the soul.

521 posted on 03/19/2005 9:10:11 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: USF; TBP
A weird thought just crossed my mind... I wondered if Muhammed (Pork Be Upon Him) may have been mounted and "used" by a wild pig or a dog. It might explain Muslims disdain for these particular animals...

A dog would be possible -- I can't figure out why he disliked them. The pork piece is explained quite simply -- he copied the Jewish belief.
522 posted on 03/19/2005 9:11:26 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Dark Skies

There's no comparison between Christ and Mo.


523 posted on 03/19/2005 9:13:17 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Cronos; USF; jan in Colorado; ariamne; TexasCowboy; swordfish71; Former Dodger; All
The ultimate question about Islam (and about other evils as well) is what is at the root of it.

If there is no unseen world (no spirit world), Islam would be cleanly explicable in the almost mathematical terms of rational thought (including plain old psychology and other behaviorial sciences).

But, of course, that can't be done, because Islam perverts what might be considered normal survivalist behavior. Islam is self-destructive (though it grows like a disease). Islam hates (and that is a perversion in itself). And what does Islam hate...it hates the mothers that bear us, it hates honesty and dignity and integrity and life itself. Islam hates all superlatives of the soul.

If there were no evil forces in life or spirit, Islam would defy all the rules of probability to suggest such things do exist. Without evil (human and demonic evil), Islam is the most remarkable coincidence. Islam achieves exactly what evil would achieve. It is the very thing that evil would design.

The question is...do such coincidences exist...or is Islam the result of Evil?

524 posted on 03/19/2005 9:15:35 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Dark Skies; TexasCowboy; TBP
Is there another explanation? I don't know of one, but I am open minded if you can suggest one.

I don't think there is any other explanation -- have you ever noticed the similarity between revelations talk about a false prophet and the number 666: now I think John of Patmos didn't see it clearly enough -- the number would be 786, a particularly revered number inIslam (I don't know why). John talks of people with the sign of Satan on them (any similarities to the slamic practice of wearing koranic verses on them?
525 posted on 03/19/2005 9:16:16 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Cronos

There is in that they represent opposite ends of the spectrum. Yeshua is the ultimate in Good...and mo is the ultimate in evil.


526 posted on 03/19/2005 9:16:59 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Cronos
Not familiar with 786...what is that?

Have read extensively about Revelations though and still can't say I can speak with any authority.

527 posted on 03/19/2005 9:19:53 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Cronos
Some people say that Cardinal Jean Marie Lustiger will be the next pope. He is Jewish by birth (mother died at Austwitz I think). Lustiger in base six is 666.

Of course, that could be just another dead end trail.

528 posted on 03/19/2005 9:30:16 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Cronos
"I guess we've outed TBP's Islmic identity"

Yep! He's been a muzzie troll since day one.

He does the same thing the immans and mullahs do - pick the parts of the Quran that sound good to the infidels and pick the parts having to do with slaughter and death for the jihadis.

You've got some good info on this thread. It gets bookmarked.
Thanks!

529 posted on 03/19/2005 9:50:20 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: Dark Skies
Some people say that Cardinal Jean Marie Lustiger will be the next pope

I doubt that, the main contenders are reckoned to be Cardinal Ivan Dias of India or Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria.
530 posted on 03/19/2005 9:50:27 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Dark Skies
"The ultimate question about Islam (and about other evils as well) is what is at the root of it."

I look at it simply, DS.
I think Islam is possession by Satan, nothing more, nothing less.

531 posted on 03/19/2005 9:52:28 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: Cronos
I agree it is unlikely that the Cardinal of Paris would be elected...I hope you are correct.

Yet on the other hand, the Vatican is certainly under attack. Very interesting times.

And what about the 786 thing?

532 posted on 03/19/2005 9:54:31 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: TexasCowboy

TC...I completely agree. Possession pure and simple. And I think it calls for a mass exorcism (though I am not sure there is a precendent or ritual for such a thing). I think that is what is called for.


533 posted on 03/19/2005 9:56:58 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Dark Skies
"786" is the total value of the letters of "Bismillah al-Rahman al-Rahim". In Arabic there are two methods of arranging letters. One method is the most common method known as the alphabetical method. Here we begin with Alif, ba, ta, tha etc. The other method is known as the Abjad method or ordinal method. In this method each letter has an arithmetic value assigned to it from one to one thousand. The letters are arranged in the following order: Abjad, Hawwaz, Hutti, Kalaman, Sa'fas, Qarshat, Sakhaz, Zazagh. This arrangement was done, most probably in the 3rd century of Hijrah during the 'Abbasid period, following other Semitic languages such as Phoenician, Aramaic, Hebrew, Syriac, Chaldean etc.

If you take the numeric values of all the letters of the Basmalah, according to the Abjad order, the total will be 786. In the Indian subcontinent the Abjad numerals became quite popular. Some people, mostly in India and Pakistan, use 786 as a substitute for Bismillah. They write this number to avoid writing the name of Allah or the Qur'anic ayah on ordinary papers. This tradition is not from the time of the Prophet -peace be upon him- or his Sahabah. It developed much later, perhaps during the later 'Abbasid period. We do not know of any reputable Imams or Jurists who used this number instead of the Bismillah.
534 posted on 03/19/2005 10:06:23 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: TexasCowboy; TBP
He does the same thing the immans and mullahs do - pick the parts of the Quran that sound good to the infidels and pick the parts having to do with slaughter and death for the jihadis.

Yes, and thank you for showing the parts he wanted to hide.
535 posted on 03/19/2005 10:07:18 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Cronos
It is getting late here, Cronos. Are you saying that Islam is the antichrist (Islam is, of course, an antiChrist) or someone coming out of Islam?

Thx much for your response and attention to this matter. It is a subject of great study on my part.

536 posted on 03/19/2005 10:16:15 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Dark Skies
Are you saying that Islam is the antichrist (Islam is, of course, an antiChrist) or someone coming out of Islam?

I'm saying what you pointed out earlier -- Mohammed is the complete antithesis of Yeshua. He was the anti-Christ.
537 posted on 03/19/2005 10:32:44 PM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Cronos

See: http://www.hinduunity.org/

Images of Islam


538 posted on 03/19/2005 10:36:41 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: Dark Skies

The very origin of the name allah, a corruption of Al-Uzza; the name of the planet Venus, The Morning and Evening Star, also known as Lucifer The Fallen Star by the ancients would tend toward your understanding that islam is a satanic belief.


539 posted on 03/19/2005 11:11:15 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: Cronos; Dark Skies; Fred Nerks; TexasCowboy; USF
"For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver, and the antichrist." 2 John 1:7

Mohammed=antichrist

Allah=Satan

540 posted on 03/19/2005 11:44:46 PM PST by jan in Colorado (Faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1)
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