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Were we wrong about Bill Clinton?
Mar 8,2005

Posted on 03/08/2005 12:49:49 PM PST by swampfx

I started lurking here shortly after Freerepublic started, mainly because Freepublic.com was a great source for news the mainstream media would not cover.

I remember reading about how the Park Police could not find Vince Foster’s keys at the location where his body was found. When the former bouncer and White House errand boy Craig Livingstone went to identify the body at the morgue, he reached in the dead Mr. Foster’s pants pockets and retrieved a large set of keys that was missed by all the professionals. That, among other information left me with doubts about the conclusion Vince Foster committed suicide.

I saw a photo posted on FR of Ron Brown’s head. It looked like a bullet hole to me.

The same April 1996, Ron Brown died; William Colby fell out of his canoe and died.

The mainstream media reported William Colby called his wife shortly before he disappeared and told her he was going for a canoe ride. I found out on FR that his friend and business associate, James Davidson, stated Mr. Colby did not tell his wife he was going for a canoe ride. Why would someone make that up?

About two weeks later, Admiral Boorda shot himself in his chest, through his ribbons. The mainstream media said it was because he was wearing medals he did not earn. I found out on FR, the claim was bogus. Admiral Boorda participated in combat operations in Southeast Asia and was awarded two “V” devices for medals he received related to combat operations.

I learned on FR about Kathy Ferguson. She was married to Bill Clinton’s co-defendant in the Paula Jones civil suit at the time of the reported harassment. Later, Kathy divorced Danny and Kathy was dating Bill Shelton at the time of her death. Days after the suit was filed, Kathy shot herself in the head. Six weeks later, police officer Bill Shelton was found on top of her grave. He died of a gunshot to the head.

Barbara Wise worked in the office in the Commerce Department where the technology transfers to China were being considered. Friday after Thanksgiving in 1996 her naked badly bruised body was found in her office at the Commerce Department. She died of natural causes. I read about the police report describing the condition of her body on Freerepublic.

Less than two weeks after Lewinsky had her reported showdown with the President, Mary Mahoney, a former Clinton White House intern was shot several times in a Starbucks where she worked two miles from the White House. Her two co-workers were also shot to death. No money was taken, no one heard any shots. Unless you read the Washington Times or FR, it is unlikely you have ever heard of Mary Mahoney. The Lewinsky acquaintance and former intern was never mentioned in the national mainstream press.

According to Juanita Broaddrick, Bill Clinton raped her. I believed her.

I voted for our current President hoping for a legitimate investigation into the technology transfers to China and many of the other activities associated with Bill Clinton.

Later, it was explained to me it these potential high crimes would not be investigated because of political reasons.

I thought I understood the reason President Bush would not prosecute Bill Clinton for his many crimes.What I don’t understand is why President Bush now embraces a man I once thought was a rapist, complicit in murder, and a man that sold weapons technology to communist China for campaign contributions.

Were we wrong about Bill Clinton?


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To: cripplecreek

Well are you ignorant also? Or do you just not know? :)


261 posted on 03/08/2005 9:31:05 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - there are countless observable clues that God exists)
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To: lawdude

I don't think the Clintons limit themselves to whatever number of FBI files they pilfered. They seem to be willing to use threats, murder, anything. I still wonder how they got to Susan McDougall, and why. The MSM paraded her out in that orange jumpsuit so many times, it's a permanent image in my head. And look what they did to Rep. Livingston who was House Speaker right after Newt resigned. With a little help from Larry Flint, they made an example out of him right before the Senate was to act on impeachment. It boggles the mind to recall all of this, and so much more we'll never hear about. And to think a recent poll shows 49% want Hillary to run for President in '08. I just hope Rudy, or somebody, knocks here out in '06.


262 posted on 03/08/2005 9:33:35 PM PST by PTBarnum (Go To: APTTAX.COM)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

Until we hear that Pres Bush has publicly given Bubba a nickname - I think we are all right.


263 posted on 03/08/2005 9:42:18 PM PST by daybreakcoming ("Courage is being scared to death -- and saddling up anyway." - John Wayne)
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To: swampfx

No


264 posted on 03/08/2005 9:45:56 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Deb
If the dreaded FBI files were ever going to be used, they would have been years ago.

How do you know they are not?

265 posted on 03/08/2005 10:30:48 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Someday I will fondly look back on the day Hillary's career ended. Starting tomorrow, I hope.)
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To: Mudboy Slim; All
     



-Hillary Clinton- archives, comments, and opposition research --

-The Clinton Files--

-Murder, Inc. [repost] --

-ATTENTION BLOODHOUNDS--

-Women in the Clinton Era: Abuse,Intimidation and Smears--

Hillary's delegates spit on and taunt Police Honor Guard at her Convention

Catastrophic intelligence Failure - Clinton's Bin Laden GATE

CIA Officials Reveal What Went Wrong – Clinton to Blame

DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON
 


266 posted on 03/09/2005 1:16:26 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: swampfx

In-contry. Why?


267 posted on 03/09/2005 5:18:12 AM PST by kabar
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To: swampfx

NO.


268 posted on 03/09/2005 5:22:59 AM PST by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: swampfx
When you received the NCM, was the "V" device attached, or did you purchase the "V" device at the uniform store?

I don't recall if it was part of the original package, which contained the medal and ribbon. In any event the ribbon and combat V device can be purchased at the uniform shop. The main thing is that the written commendation contained the specific language authorizing the wearing of a combat "V" distinguishing device.

269 posted on 03/09/2005 5:24:58 AM PST by kabar
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To: peyton randolph
It is kind of funny that 41 and 43 seem to "pal" around with Clinton, yet throughout the years, Carter has been the one consistantly ignored by all presidents. Even Clinton did not seem to have much use for him and what he did under Clinton administration, seems to me, he forced himself into the scene.

Ford is another one that seems completely ignored by all presidents after him. Is the rehab of the presidency the only reason 41 and 43 keep Clinton hanging around?

270 posted on 03/09/2005 5:26:38 AM PST by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: kabar
Why?

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Navy has quietly accepted that Adm. Jeremy "Mike" Boorda was entitled to wear combat decorations on his uniform -- the challenged Vietnam War awards that led to his suicide two years ago.

Navy Secretary John Dalton put into Boorda's file a letter from Elmo Zumwalt Jr., the chief of naval operations during the war, which says it was "appropriate, justified and proper" for Boorda to attach the small bronze combat V's to the ribbons on his uniform. The Navy also modified Boorda's record to list the V's among his other decorations -- recognition that they were earned.

The "V" stands for valor and signifies service in combat. Boorda served on a destroyer, the USS Craig, in 1965 and as executive officer on another destroyer, the USS Brooke, in 1973, both in combat situations.

In 1965, Boorda did not qualify for the Combat V, the Washingtonian said. But in 1967 the Navy retroactively upgraded all Navy Commendation for Achievement ribbons awarded between 1961 and 1967, making Boorda eligible for the award.

"Admiral Mike Boorda's citations for awards of the Navy Achievement Medal and Navy Commendation Medal plainly state they were awarded for service including `combat operations' and `while operating in combat missions,"' Dalton's memo said.

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Boorda's citations were awarded for service including combat operations in the waters off the coast of Vietnam. That was the reason I asked. As a receipient of the "V" device during the time frame in question you are a great resource and I appreciate the information. If you could provide the exact quote from the citation that authorized the V device it would help me a great deal.

271 posted on 03/09/2005 5:39:05 AM PST by swampfx
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To: backhoe

THAT is fantastic, my old FRiend...MUD


272 posted on 03/09/2005 5:39:16 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (Sweet FReedom, one taste and yer hooked fer life!!)
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To: swampfx
I think Dalton's (Secretary of the Navy 1993-1998) actions were revisionist history to salvage Boorda's reputation and memory. Zumwalt's remarks were made in the same vein. If Boorda was "eligible" for the award, he would have had to initiate an action to have it reflected in his official record. He clearly was not authorized officially to wear the device and I doubt if many sailors on a destroyer would be authorized to wear one unless they were exchanging fire with the enemy and not just providing naval gunfire support.

I will dig out my written commendation and give you the exact wording. I do recall however that it was the last sentence/paragraph of the write-up stating that a Combat "V" distinguishing device was authorized.

273 posted on 03/09/2005 6:00:01 AM PST by kabar
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To: Howlin

Post 170


274 posted on 03/09/2005 6:02:41 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Stew Padasso

Did you?


275 posted on 03/09/2005 6:48:45 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Mudboy Slim
The DemonRAT Party left you behind a long, long time ago...MUD

Nobody knows that as well as I do. It's been over 20 years since I have voted for a democrat. (socialist)

The last right wing democrat I got to vote for was Ronald Reagan, who ran as a Republican. - Tom

276 posted on 03/09/2005 7:09:56 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: 7thson

Carter went off on his own...kind of like a black sheep of the ex-presidents club. No one can force him to play the game. Ford was ignored due to the hostility between him and Reagan after the '76 primaries. By the time the Bushs came to power, Ford was simply too old to do much.


277 posted on 03/09/2005 7:21:58 AM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: anonymoussierra; swampfx; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; devolve; Mudboy Slim; yall
Were we wrong about Bill Clinton?

Uh ..... NO!


278 posted on 03/09/2005 7:23:41 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: uncbob

Are you under the impression he was removed from office?


279 posted on 03/09/2005 7:27:52 AM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
"Were we wrong about Bill Clinton?"

"Uh ..... NO!"

I agree...MUD

280 posted on 03/09/2005 7:35:47 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (Dan Rather...FReeped Outta Existence!!)
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