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Rather on Letterman: 'Nobody Broke the Law, Nobody Lied'
Ratherbiased / Powerline ^ | 3/4/04

Posted on 03/04/2005 7:47:11 AM PST by Valin

LETTERMAN: ...Now, the credibility, the v[e]racity of documents do comes into question and then what happens?

RATHER: Well, a panel was appointed by CBS News to...

LETTERMAN: An independent panel?

RATHER: An independent panel.

LETTERMAN: Is this a big thing for a network news organization to have endured?

RATHER: I think the answer to that is yes, yes. Richard Thornburgh, former attorney general who was in the Nixon administration, says the bushes are good friends of his, both president one and two [B]ush. He headed the panel. They took the better part of four months, spent several million dollars, some people say as much as $5 million, and came out with a report which I've read, thought about, absorbed it, take it seriously and move on and carry it with me in my work. Among the things, they concluded a lot of things, many of them not compl[i]mentary about my work. They concluded that whatever happened and whatever you thought about it, it was not motivated by political bias and they said that, although they had four months and millions of dollars, they could not demonstrate the documents were not authentic, that they were forgeries. They said they couldn't make that conclusion. They also encouraged CBS News to rededicate itself to aggressive investigative reporting when warranted and not let this discourage them from doing so. That's a summary, a short summary. This panel report is big enough, you know, if you want to read it, it's I don't know, big enough to make a door stop.

LETTERMAN: I need a door stop.

(Laughter) so let me go back to two points. They said, one, it was not motivated by political bias?

RATHER: That's right.

LETTERMAN: So CBS News and yourself and others cleared of that, and that seemed to be a great point of criticism, did it not, that there was political bias here, that...

RATHER: People had their own political motivations and agendas, and some people who didn't have that, who were asking the question. That's one reason the panel was appointed. That was one of their conclusions.

LETTERMAN: That charge has been erased by the fact-finding committee?

[RATHER]: That was their conclusion.

LETTERMAN: Did not exist. That evaporated. Secondly, they could not prove the documents were false. They could not prove they were true and accurate, but they also could not prove they were false

RATHER: That's correct.

LETTERMAN: That's a push right there.

RATHER: Some people would not regard it, but you've summarized it correctly. They had a lot of other findings. Those were among the findings.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: danrather; memogate; msm; rathergate
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To: Howlin

"Dan Rather slutter"

Looks like a tagline to me.


41 posted on 03/04/2005 8:15:14 AM PST by Valin (DARE to be average!)
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To: Leo Carpathian

"Who decided to use forged documents in bringing President down?"

I also missed any reference to the contacts between CBS and the DNC. Guess they didn't think that was important.


42 posted on 03/04/2005 8:16:07 AM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: TomGuy

I've forgoten now... wasn't the last whacko theory put out by Rather and the libs is that the TANG actually had spent over $40,000 to buy one of those special-order, custom-made typewriters that if you manually manipulated it in just the right way by resetting paper after each typed line and changing the font balls, etc, etc, that you could almost reproduce the documents and so they could not possibly be fakes? Idiots.


43 posted on 03/04/2005 8:18:04 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Valin
But I tell you, the documents were not forgeries. They laughed & scoffed at me. They made up nicknames for me like Dan Blather, but I proved by geometric logic that Lucy Ramirez did exist.


44 posted on 03/04/2005 8:18:07 AM PST by rcocean
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To: starfish923
I remember Rather screaming at and insulting George Herbert Walker Bush, then v.p. I've detested Rather since then.

My disdain for Rather goes back even further.

At the 1972 Dem Convention, cub floor reporter Rather was continually racing between the mic/camera and the Edward Kennedy camp. Lil ole Dan was trying to hard to be the one to break the story that Kennedy had decided to go for the nomination. The pitter-patter of lil ole Dan's feet, and the smell of burning shoe lather, and the smoke rising from his buring shoes didn't daunt him in his ever-ending task. Back and forth between Kennedy camp and cameras. But always the same tale of woe: 'Not just yet. They are close. His people have about convinced him. He should be ready to announce just any moment,' [ sthuuuuummmmm pitter-patter pitter-patter .....sound of pitter-patter fading rapidly into the distance as lil ole Dan scampered back to the Kennedy camp.]

But the announcement never came, cub floor reporter Dan missed his big one.

[I got so sick of watching him run back and fourth until McGovern (IIRC) locked up the nom. Rather was so deflated. Even years later when he became CBS anchor, I never watched the former lil ole cub floor reporter who didn't get his big one at the 1972 Convention.]
45 posted on 03/04/2005 8:21:12 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: Valin

46 posted on 03/04/2005 8:25:52 AM PST by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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To: Valin

Isn't it amazing that NOBODY at cBS want to know WHO actually forged the documents that brought down the tiffany network? Their silence is very revealing. Dan Rather has become the man that he has hated most.....Richard Nixon!


47 posted on 03/04/2005 8:26:06 AM PST by JarheadFromFlorida (Ooorahhhh........Get Some! Semper Fi')
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To: Howlin
Oh, that is funny. We need to get that page translated:


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Tatt i løgn av bloggere


SLUTTER: Dan Rather slutter i CBS like etter at bloggere tok han i løgn. Selv sier han det ikke har noen sammenheng.

annonse


Nitten minutter etter sendingen skriver TankerKC på webloggen FreeRepublic:

WE NEED TO SEE THOSE MEMOS AGAIN! They are not in the style that we used when I came in to the USAF. They looked like the style and format we started using about 12 years ago (1992). Our signature blocks were left justified, now they are rigth of center...like the ones they just showed. Can we get a copy of those memos?

Meldingen fikk flere til å fatte interesse for saken. Fire timer senere svarer Buckhead i den samme webloggen:

Howlin, every single one of these memos to file is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman. In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing, and typewriters used monospaced fonts. The use of proportionally spaced fonts did not come into common use for office memos until the introduction of laser printers, word processing software, and personal computers. They were not widespread until the mid to late 90's. Before then, you needed typesetting equipment, and that wasn't used for personal memos to file. Even the Wang systems that were dominant in the mid 80's used monospaced fonts. I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old. This should be pursued aggressively.

Dagen etter dukket det opp en tilnærmet eksakt reproduksjon av dokumentet på nettstedet Little Green Footballs laget av 'Power Line'. Orddelingen, mellomrommene mellom ordene og bokstavene, linjeskiftene. Plasseringen av datolinjen. Alt passet perfekt sammen med det bloggeren hadde reprodusert i Word. Flere andre lagde overbevisende sammenlikninger mellom memoene og egenproduserte dokumenter.

48 posted on 03/04/2005 8:27:40 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: Coop
I heard that interview, too. You are quite right.

Another thing...what were the "other things" they had besides the documents?

49 posted on 03/04/2005 8:28:40 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Valin

So Dave Letterman decided to make a joke of this incident. We already know that Mr. Rather is deluded- now we know Letterman is a whore- and a smug one, at that.


50 posted on 03/04/2005 8:29:10 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless our troops.)
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To: Valin; Eurotwit

I wonder what it means!!!


51 posted on 03/04/2005 8:31:01 AM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: Howlin

Cool! So Dan Rather is a "slutter"? ;-D


52 posted on 03/04/2005 8:36:13 AM PST by nutmeg (democRATs = The Party of NO)
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To: Valin

53 posted on 03/04/2005 8:37:49 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: TheSarce

Check out post #40!


54 posted on 03/04/2005 8:39:38 AM PST by nutmeg (democRATs = The Party of NO)
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To: Howlin

I think that is Norwegian, but I can't help thinking that when read aloud is sounds like the Muppet's Swedish chef.


55 posted on 03/04/2005 8:46:23 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Valin
LETTERMAN: They said it was not motivated by political bias?
RATHER: That's right.

here they say the investigation couldn't prove they they are bias... couldn't prove a POSITIVE, but they couldn't prove that they aren't either!!!

LETTERMAN: Secondly, they could not prove the documents were false.
RATHER: That's correct.

NOW... they want the investigation to prove a NEGATIVE, that they are false!!!

a just investigation would be one that rather has to prove he's NOT bias and that the documents ARE real, not the other way round.

56 posted on 03/04/2005 8:59:22 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Kirkwood
theory put out by Rather and the libs is that the TANG actually had spent over $40,000 to buy one of those special-order, custom-made typewriters

Funny that number $40,0000 would be mentioned....

If they spent $5,000,000 in four months, it breaks down to $41,666 per day

They could have paid 83 Freepers over $500 per day to investigate for them. (and the Freepers would have taken the last 119 days off on paid leave)

57 posted on 03/04/2005 9:05:33 AM PST by Vetnet ("Into this Mosaic of Freedom is laid, this precious piece of The Angels Brigade")
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To: TomGuy; Howlin; Valin
Å, det var morsomt. Vi må få den siden oversatt:


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Caught redhanded lying by bloggers


Quits: Dan Rather quits from CBS after bloggers caught him lying. He (Rather) claim his resignation is not related.

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Ninteen minutes after the broadcast TankerKC writes in the weblogg FreeRepublic:

WE NEED TO SEE THOSE MEMOS AGAIN! They are not in the style that we used when I came in to the USAF. They looked like the style and format we started using about 12 years ago (1992). Our signature blocks were left justified, now they are rigth of center...like the ones they just showed. Can we get a copy of those memos?

That message caught the attention of others. Four hours later Buckhead replies in the same weblogg:

Howlin, every single one of these memos to file is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman. In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing, and typewriters used monospaced fonts. The use of proportionally spaced fonts did not come into common use for office memos until the introduction of laser printers, word processing software, and personal computers. They were not widespread until the mid to late 90's. Before then, you needed typesetting equipment, and that wasn't used for personal memos to file. Even the Wang systems that were dominant in the mid 80's used monospaced fonts. I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old. This should be pursued aggressively.

The next day, a pretty much exact reproduction of the document (the forgery) was published on the Little Green Footballs website, made by 'Power Line'. The spacing, the typeset, the placement of the dateline, everything from the forged documents was matched exactly in the document that bloggers had produced in (MS)Word. Several others made believable comparisons between the memos and documents that they produced themselves.

48 posted den 03/04/2005 11:27:40 AM EST by TomKar (Amerika: Beste venn eller verste fiende. Velg med omhu.)

....................................................

There you are :-) The article is fairly straight forward. I am sorry to tell you that Slutter just means quits.

Cheers.


58 posted on 03/04/2005 9:23:48 AM PST by Eurotwit
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To: Miss Marple

The Chef's Theme Song

59 posted on 03/04/2005 9:32:18 AM PST by Gumption (I'm waiting until the time is right.)
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To: Valin
Rather pathetic, and that includes Letterman.
60 posted on 03/04/2005 9:38:24 AM PST by Malesherbes
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