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CNN: US SUPREME COURT: ALL DEATH PENALTY CASES WITH JUVENILE KILLERS THROWN OUT!
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Posted on 03/01/2005 7:21:16 AM PST by Next_Time_NJ

The Supreme Court ruled Tuesday that the Constitution forbids the execution of killers who were under 18 when they committed their crimes, ending a practice used in 19 states.

The 5-4 decision throws out the death sentences of about 70 juvenile murderers and bars states from seeking to execute minors for future crimes.

The executions, the court said, were unconstitutionally cruel.

This report will be updated as details become available.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ban; deathpenalty; impeachthem; judicialtyranny; juveniles; levinsexactlyright; meninblack; readmarklevinsbook; ropervsimmons; ruling; scotus; supremecourt
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To: RobFromGa
How about an 17 year old gang-banger who taunts the victim with "I can do anything I want to you and they can't kill me" as they perform a torture-murder on one of your family members?

Yeah, I guess this'll just mean some more vigilante justice in America.

81 posted on 03/01/2005 7:37:41 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Halls

I also agree.


82 posted on 03/01/2005 7:37:45 AM PST by JohnMac
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To: Next_Time_NJ

The point isn't whether or not it's right to execute brutal murderers if they were under 18. The point is whether this is a constitutional issue, under the phrase "cruel and unusual punishment." I think not.

If it's wrong to execute murderers under 18, then this should be a matter for the voters and the legislatures.


83 posted on 03/01/2005 7:37:51 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Next_Time_NJ

No killin' kids. Except fetuses. And defectives. And the brain-damaged...


84 posted on 03/01/2005 7:37:54 AM PST by Graymatter (There are times when the Rule of Law needs an override.)
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To: Next_Time_NJ

Show me the 15 yr old executed (Since the dp was reinstated) and I'll eat my computer.

Juveniles are NOT executed in this country.


85 posted on 03/01/2005 7:38:04 AM PST by Guillermo (Abajo fidel: End the Cuban Trade Embargo)
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To: Next_Time_NJ
I agree with them. Killing a 15 year old child is not my idea of just punishment reguardless of what they have done.

But that's not a constitutional issue. The U.S. Supreme Court is absolutely wrong on this one.

"It's not a good idea" is not the same thing as "It's unconstitutional."

86 posted on 03/01/2005 7:38:06 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert.)
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To: Halls
Yeah, this is big, but honestly I think I have to agree with their decision.

That's nice. We will send the little demons in human form to live in your house ok?

87 posted on 03/01/2005 7:38:07 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (No one knows the shape of the future or where it will take us. We know only the way is paved in pain)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Kennedy wrote the summary decision. O'Connor dissented with Rehnquist, Thomas and Scalia.


88 posted on 03/01/2005 7:38:13 AM PST by NautiNurse (Osama bin Laden has more tapes than Steely Dan)
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To: All
These kids are not kids but monsters who should be put out of their own misery.

This SCOTUS is one of the worst SCOTUS's their has been. Expect more insane rulings such as the ruling on eminent domain, and all other important issues to be ruled in favor of their Leftists agenda!

89 posted on 03/01/2005 7:38:22 AM PST by M 91 u2 K (Kahane was Right!)
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To: Next_Time_NJ

I think this is the right decision. The Death Penalty should only be reserved for the worst of the worst (those for whom prison is not enough to maintain the security of the state, e.g. terrorists).


90 posted on 03/01/2005 7:38:48 AM PST by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear; Halls

Because banning the death penalty is equivalent to banning all punishment, right?


91 posted on 03/01/2005 7:39:05 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: Halls
>Yeah, this is big, but honestly I think I have to agree with their decision

Well, Robert Heinlein,
classic libertarian,
thought society

for self protection
could put people to death, but
had no right at all

to treat human beings
like animals and lock them
in cages for life.

92 posted on 03/01/2005 7:39:14 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: dcuddeback

This only effects 19 states.. if your theory held true then there would be 31 other states with a high level of underage killers.


93 posted on 03/01/2005 7:39:19 AM PST by Next_Time_NJ (NJ demorat exterminator)
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To: Next_Time_NJ
Technically speaking, Amendment VIII of the Constitution says "cruel and unusual", not cruel or unusual. I wonder if the next step is to argue that 60 or so years behind bars (the likely length of a life without parole sentence for a young offender) will also be judged cruel and these pint-sized psychopaths will be yet again unleashed upon society.
94 posted on 03/01/2005 7:39:24 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Strategerie works!)
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To: null and void
Ah! The teenage murderer permit has just been issued.

Why do you say that? Even without the death penalty, they can be sent to jail for the rest of their lives.

95 posted on 03/01/2005 7:39:52 AM PST by Modernman ("Normally, I don't listen to women, or doctors." - Captain Hero)
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To: Next_Time_NJ

this is sheer lunacy


96 posted on 03/01/2005 7:39:53 AM PST by kingattax
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To: Next_Time_NJ

This, for example, sends John Malvo (one of the beltway snipers) to life. No need now for Alabama or other states to try him for the death penalty, since he is already in prison for life.

[I'd like the justices to point out that part of the Constitution that prohibits an 18-year-old from the death penalty. This sounds like one of the European laws they are using as precedent, rather than US law.]


97 posted on 03/01/2005 7:39:57 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Fine, but only after a conservative court has sat for about 40 years, so the perversion to the Constitution that has occurred in the interim can be fully addressed.
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98 posted on 03/01/2005 7:40:01 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: CIB-173RDABN

I disagree. Do you really beleive the death penalty is a deterrent? I don't. If it was, the states which have the death penalty would have fewer murders, and the opposite would be true in states that do not.


99 posted on 03/01/2005 7:40:07 AM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: Next_Time_NJ
If they are going to kill someone at that age.. nothing from a spanking to the death penality is going to stop them.. never did, never has..

You are quite wrong. Most sociopaths, whether 15 or 55 respond quite well to threats of their own demise.

100 posted on 03/01/2005 7:40:14 AM PST by AmishDude
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