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Should the U.N. be lord of the oceans?
WorldNetDaily ^ | 2/28/2005 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 02/28/2005 11:41:18 AM PST by iconoclast

"Sovereignty. The issue is huge. The mere mention of Kofi Annan in the U.N. caused the crowd to go into a veritable fit. The coalition wants America strong and wants the American flag flying overseas, not the pale blue of the U.N."

So George W. Bush confided to friend Doug Wead before he declared his candidacy. And, twice, President Bush has acted to defend U.S. sovereignty gainst the encroachments of global government.

He rejected both the International Criminal Court, which would have ceded power to prosecute U.S. soldiers, and a Kyoto Treaty that would have subjected our economy to the dictates of a global EPA.

Which makes astonishing Bush's apparent support for a Law Of the Sea Treaty that Ronald Reagan rejected as a great leap forward into global socialism. By 19 to 0, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee has approved LOST. Unless 34 senators can be rallied to reject this historic power grab, it will go into effect.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: globalgovernment; long; lost; oceans; patbuchanan; un; ussovereignty
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To: jpl
What's happening is that the New World Order is taking control behind the scenes, one little slice at a time.

And scads of "conservatives" are over lallygagging at "today's Freeper pics of GWB", as if our political future was their adult version of living in a movie magazine world.

SHEESH!

41 posted on 02/28/2005 2:30:28 PM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: DoctorMichael
Maybe Bush needs some time off. How about seeing a movie with Ted Kennedy?

As long as Kennedy's not driving, that will be fine.

42 posted on 02/28/2005 2:42:37 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport 'em all; let fox sort 'em out!)
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To: abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; alisasny; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; Angelwood; aristeides; Askel5; ...
This is huge and serious (since there's no real humor about what the Foreign Relations Committee has done).

PING!

43 posted on 02/28/2005 2:44:36 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport 'em all; let fox sort 'em out!)
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To: iconoclast

The global civil society, as recently shown in Lebanon, will not allow a centralist power such as the UN to gain sovereignty. Weak and failed states are being repaired, which is to the good of all, but the UN is not a state and never will be. We are not headed for a world gov't.


44 posted on 02/28/2005 3:17:02 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: Digger
THE ENEMY IS WITHIN - WITHOUT A DOUBT

Just look at this sorry bunch:

Richard G. Lugar..... Indiana...........Chairman

Chuck Hagel............ Nebraska

Lincoln Chafee......... Rhode Island

George Allen............ Virginia

Norm Coleman......... Minnesota

George Voinovich.... Ohio

Lamar Alexander...... Tennessee

John E. Sununu........ New Hampshire

Lisa Murkowski....... Alaska

Mel Martinez............ Florida

Not a serious, intelligent conservative in the bunch. Whom amongst them are you going to count on?

And the Freeper gang piles on me when I rant about shills like Rush or Fred Barnes going on and on about the "conservative revolution".

BAH! It's worse than humbug.

45 posted on 02/28/2005 3:28:22 PM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: RightWhale
We are not headed for a world gov't.

It won't look much like the U.N., friend.

46 posted on 02/28/2005 3:34:31 PM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: iconoclast

The idea of a world gov't seems to have been shelved. Sure, there are some who are still blind to the failure of Communist Empire, but they are fading from the scene rapidly. What is happening now is that weak and failed states are in process of being shored up and being made to evolve toward a more productive mode of existence. Iraq and Afghanistan are the start and the role models, but this idea is spreading quickly. We should be optimistic that a world of a multiplicity of fairly strong states of limited scope with fairly strong domestic institutions is approaching quickly and with no interest in world gov't. The UN is already one foot in the dumpster.


47 posted on 02/28/2005 3:41:12 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: iconoclast
We are in trouble.
The 11 Republicans on the Senate Foreign Relations committee included not only liberals and internationalists like Lugar Chafee and Voinovich, but conservatives like George Allen and John Sununu Jr.
48 posted on 02/28/2005 5:10:47 PM PST by rmlew (Copperheads and Peaceniks beware! Sedition is a crime.)
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To: Righty_McRight
Norm Coleman hates the United Nations. How the hell did they get him to go along with it?
He is a neoconservative. He does not oppose the UN in theory, just in practice.
49 posted on 02/28/2005 5:11:48 PM PST by rmlew (Copperheads and Peaceniks beware! Sedition is a crime.)
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To: iconoclast
The UN can go to Hell.

Then they can be lord over satan....because they sure are more evil than satan.

50 posted on 02/28/2005 5:18:34 PM PST by Radioactive
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To: Major Matt Mason

Contact Frist and Lugar. Probably a waste of time especially with Lugar, but I wrote him anyway and asked him if he'd LOST his mind and to please reconsider.

Jeff Sessions is dead set against this. God I hope he can rally the support to stop it. He might even be a good one to contact as to ideas on what we can do to help him. I hadn't thought of that until just this minute, or I would have done it already.

Goes without saying here, but this whole thing is insane.


51 posted on 02/28/2005 5:41:58 PM PST by planekT
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To: rmlew
He is a neoconservative

Well I'm not sure how this helps form Pax Americana
52 posted on 02/28/2005 6:01:08 PM PST by Righty_McRight ("Rescue those being led away to death; hold back those staggering toward slaughter" Proverbs 24:11)
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To: Righty_McRight

There is something wrong with all of this.

Consider who wrote the piece: Patrick J. Buchanan

He used to be creditable, now he is a joke.


53 posted on 02/28/2005 8:44:55 PM PST by cleo1939
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To: planekT
I decided to contact Mitch McConnell. Not from my state, of course, but he has a leadership position and seems to be a reliable conservative. I'll probably contact Frist's office, as well.
54 posted on 02/28/2005 9:23:21 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (Juggling the Flaming Globes of Zigmund)
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To: cleo1939
He used to be creditable, now he is a joke.

Even a blind squirrel unearths the occasional acorn.

55 posted on 02/28/2005 9:25:27 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (Juggling the Flaming Globes of Zigmund)
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To: Major Matt Mason

You may be right but I need to know a lot more about it
then what Pat wishes to tell us.

I am all for dumping the UN. That is not the point.


56 posted on 02/28/2005 10:14:11 PM PST by cleo1939
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To: Righty_McRight
Tell the president/vice president how you feel.

Thank you....I Just did.

57 posted on 03/01/2005 5:19:37 AM PST by Katy_Katarina (http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html)
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To: All
ALL:
I got a reply to my message from the white house (computerized) stating there is a place for webmail to voice your opinions on specific subjects:

CLICK HERE

58 posted on 03/01/2005 5:26:33 AM PST by Katy_Katarina (http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html)
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To: iconoclast

I thought Aquaman was lord of the seas...


59 posted on 03/01/2005 6:50:58 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
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To: cleo1939
You may be right but I need to know a lot more about it then what Pat wishes to tell us.

So you think Pat made up the 19-0 committee vote?

IMO, you're too much of a crackpot to be posting here.

60 posted on 03/01/2005 12:05:08 PM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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