Posted on 02/26/2005 1:27:31 PM PST by srm913
You are correct.. there has been numerous great posts in this thread, a person looking for the truth will find them despite all the bitterness of the opposition (which basically could only stutter around like lost chickens from the flock).
I bookmarked this thread for references... and Bible study.
LOL
I don't know who did it. I certainly didn't.
Of course, a blog with that much personally identifiable information from a relatively public figure might be a bit....well, not too bright?
Alan Keyes is terrible, but this story makes him look like he has as much power in the party as the chairman, when he has less power than a twig.
Do you think that homosexual fornication is more sinful than heterosexual fornication?
Your name suggests you have had one too many.
Does disagreeing with you and your interpretation of Christianity make one not a Christian?
Your pontificating and spiritual and moral superiority is the height of arrogance...that is a sin last time I checked.
More to the point of my post however is that you can find a Homosexual Pride Day, and a Homosexual Pride Parade and the Homosexual movement has its own lobby.
The Bible condemns fornication. All sex outside of marriage is a sin. This country is sex obsessed and fornication of all kinds has become rampant. It is all sin and many people love to wallow in sin without remorse which is utterly shameful.
One very large reason that homosexuality has to be openly condemned as sin is that it is being openly and aggressively promoted in open rebellion toward God. This sin is promoted with its own days (set aside specifically to promote pride in this sin), with its own parades (marching to celebrate and flaunt this sin in order to make people more accepting of this sin), and this sin has its own lobby (working to get politicians and judges to force people to ignore this sin).
If you are seeking a deep theological discussion, I am willing. Your question, I suppose, would then be, does the Bible say some activity is worse than others, or is it possible that some sins are worse than other sins?
I don't think I have said anything like that whatsoever. If you think so, then point out specifically where I have said that, or else you are making a self righteous judgment.
Sounds like you are doing some pontificating yourself, as well as jumping to some wrong conclusions without any evidence.
Your pontificating and spiritual and moral superiority is the height of arrogance...that is a sin last time I checked.
The "moral superiority", as you state is what I have posted from the Bible. If you have a problem with Biblical morality, I suggest you take it up with God.
You ever heard of Pepsi?
They come in 6-packs too.
Pontificate away.
I agree. I can't help but think that without heterosexual fornication becoming so prevalent, homosexual fornication would have stayed in the closet as well. I could be wrong of course, it just seems like 2 sides of the same coin to me.
If you are seeking a deep theological discussion, I am willing. Your question, I suppose, would then be, does the Bible say some activity is worse than others, or is it possible that some sins are worse than other sins?
I'm not sure if I'm up to holding up my end of the discussion this week (lots of other things going on), but I can try, and I think it would be an interesting discussion. I'm not sure the Bible is entirely clear on the matter, at least in the New Testament. At times It seems to suggest that there is a heirarchy, and at other times that sin of any sort leads to death.
Rather disingenuous argument, don't you think?
Rather disingenuous argument, don't you think?
Not disingenuous in the slightest. I drink Pepsi, not beer as you so self righteously assume.
It is aumising how quickly liberal religionists like yourself jump to conclusions and exercise judgmentalism while on the other hand whining about others "judging" sin proper.But my O my, liberal religionists have to find picky little things to base an attack on in lieu of Biblical support for liberal religion.
Rather disingenuous argument, don't you think?
Not disingenuous in the slightest. I drink Pepsi, not beer as you so self righteously assume.
It is aumising how quickly liberal religionists like yourself jump to conclusions and exercise judgmentalism while on the other hand whining about others "judging" sin proper.
Btw, "Joe Sixpack" is an idiomatic term for a regular guy.
But my O my, liberal religionists have to find picky little things to base an attack on in lieu of Biblical support for liberal religion.
Btw, you are aware that to falsely accuse me of drunkeness is slander, and that God hates slander, right?
The Bible is very clear on the matter, especially the New Testament.
All it takes is one sin to infinitely offend an infintely holy, infinitely just and infinitely righteous God. That one sin is enough to land anyone in hell. However God judges sins on a scale of degree of magnitude of the offense on Judgment Day, and that is what determines one's degree of punishment in hell.
It is in the final Judgment that the "heirarchy", as you put it, comes into play in determining the degree eternal punishment. But that is not to say that there are not consequences in this life for more serious offenses, for there are.
Don't fall prey to their trap.
BUMP
On just a surface level of the here and now, some actions have more destructive consequences than others.
If you slap someone on the nose because you want to hurt them, their nose may bleed some. However, if you take a shotgun and blow their leg off at the knee, the consequence is much greater. Your punishment should be greater because the offense is greater.
I can't help but think that without heterosexual fornication becoming so prevalent, homosexual fornication would have stayed in the closet as well.
I remember the 1960s very well. Under the guise of Vietnam war protest and free speech and the "America is evil" nonsense (and many other frauds), the fornication wave kicked out and rejected Biblical morality. If you did not know it before, only conservative Christians had enough guts to fight this plague, but a rather nasty enemy tied the Christian's hands. The supreme court (especially beginning in the 1950s Earl Warren court), habitually and illegally rewrote the constitution to overthrow the very laws that had helped hold back the fornication and pornography plague that we now live with.
In other words the anti-Bible side cheated with aid from the ACLU.
This same spirit of Bible rejection also gave us another gift, 'the drug culture' that we still live with today.
Yes, this Bible rejection has indeed opened the door to the justification, celebration and proliferation of homosexuality. The Bible is mocked today without fear or shame.
Yes, the derivation is because "regular guys" drank beer, not those fancy-pants mixed drinks.
I personally don't care what you drink, but I think it's rather disingenuous to claim that the name doesn't carry connotations of beer-drinking.
..and that is the danger to the family
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