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To: John Scopes
The Bible condemns fornication. All sex outside of marriage is a sin. This country is sex obsessed and fornication of all kinds has become rampant. It is all sin and many people love to wallow in sin without remorse which is utterly shameful.

I agree. I can't help but think that without heterosexual fornication becoming so prevalent, homosexual fornication would have stayed in the closet as well. I could be wrong of course, it just seems like 2 sides of the same coin to me.

If you are seeking a deep theological discussion, I am willing. Your question, I suppose, would then be, does the Bible say some activity is worse than others, or is it possible that some sins are worse than other sins?

I'm not sure if I'm up to holding up my end of the discussion this week (lots of other things going on), but I can try, and I think it would be an interesting discussion. I'm not sure the Bible is entirely clear on the matter, at least in the New Testament. At times It seems to suggest that there is a heirarchy, and at other times that sin of any sort leads to death.

831 posted on 03/02/2005 3:09:06 AM PST by Amelia (Still cynical after all these years.......)
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To: Amelia
I'm not sure the Bible is entirely clear on the matter, at least in the New Testament.

The Bible is very clear on the matter, especially the New Testament.

All it takes is one sin to infinitely offend an infintely holy, infinitely just and infinitely righteous God. That one sin is enough to land anyone in hell. However God judges sins on a scale of degree of magnitude of the offense on Judgment Day, and that is what determines one's degree of punishment in hell.

It is in the final Judgment that the "heirarchy", as you put it, comes into play in determining the degree eternal punishment. But that is not to say that there are not consequences in this life for more serious offenses, for there are.

836 posted on 03/02/2005 8:43:02 AM PST by Joe.E.Sixpack
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To: Amelia
Amelia, the Bible is very clear on the matter. Some activity will receive greater condemnation.

On just a surface level of the here and now, some actions have more destructive consequences than others.

If you slap someone on the nose because you want to hurt them, their nose may bleed some. However, if you take a shotgun and blow their leg off at the knee, the consequence is much greater. Your punishment should be greater because the offense is greater.

I can't help but think that without heterosexual fornication becoming so prevalent, homosexual fornication would have stayed in the closet as well.

I remember the 1960s very well. Under the guise of Vietnam war protest and free speech and the "America is evil" nonsense (and many other frauds), the fornication wave kicked out and rejected Biblical morality. If you did not know it before, only conservative Christians had enough guts to fight this plague, but a rather nasty enemy tied the Christian's hands. The supreme court (especially beginning in the 1950s Earl Warren court), habitually and illegally rewrote the constitution to overthrow the very laws that had helped hold back the fornication and pornography plague that we now live with.

In other words the anti-Bible side cheated with aid from the ACLU.

This same spirit of Bible rejection also gave us another gift, 'the drug culture' that we still live with today.

Yes, this Bible rejection has indeed opened the door to the justification, celebration and proliferation of homosexuality. The Bible is mocked today without fear or shame.

838 posted on 03/02/2005 11:54:39 AM PST by John Scopes (No longer just an ACLU pawn.)
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