Posted on 02/26/2005 1:27:31 PM PST by srm913
Republican disowns lesbian daughter
Gary Younge Saturday February 26, 2005
Guardian When the leading Republican and rightwing pundit Alan Keyes was asked what he thought of Mary Cheney, the lesbian daughter of the US vice-president, he called her "a selfish hedonist". If his own daughter came out as a lesbian, said Mr Keyes, he would say the same thing.
So when Mr Keyes' only daughter, Maya Marcel-Keyes, declared herself a "liberal queer" at a public rally he lived up to his word. Her parents turned her out of their house, broke off all communication and stopped paying her university tuition fees.
Ms Keyes told a rally supporting gay young people in Maryland: "We have to figure out what we can do to make sure that during those times when it seems like everything in the world is turning against them, like everyone in the world is rejecting them, that they know there are resources out there they can turn to; there are people out there who will say to them, 'I care'."
Ms Keyes joins a list of gay people with rightwing relatives, including Mary Cheney and Candace Gingrich, the sister of Republican congressman Newt Gingrich. But Mr Keyes, a darling of the religious right, has been more outspoken on the issue than most.
Ms Keyes says her parents were "not too pleased" when she came out. "Things just came to a head. Liberal queer plus conservative Republican just doesn't mesh well."
Her older brother has offered her somewhere to stay and she has been given a scholarship to continue at college.
"My daughter is an adult, and she is responsible for her own actions. What she chooses to do has nothing to do with my work or political activities," Mr Keyes said in a statement.
Ms Keyes says she loves her parents and "totally understands" their position.
Yes, the Keyes-bashing Christians should memorize that one. Maybe it'd do some good.
Your take on this is totally correct take on this whole affair (no pun intended).
As a parent, I feel it is my responsibility to turn my kids out when they are 18, or they can stay and contribute to the household finances.
I'm sure that's not an opinion favored by most, but my 5 adult children (ages 18 - 28) have all ended up in an advantageous position because of their own drive, desire, and fortitude. It possibly had something to do with me not condoning their sin.
And those of you who are equating her lesbianism with rape are so ridiculous you are an embarrassment to Republicans everywhere.
With all due respect, the above statement contradicts your statement to follow. In the following statement you seem to make the point that all sins are equal, but when rape is equated to homosexuality on the sin scale, you protest. Sadly, you have been confused and deceived by liberal religion. All sin is not equal, which is why there are differing punishments for more agregious sins, and is why those whom God sends to hell will have their station in hell determined by the veracity and the seriuousness of their sin.
Everyone is a sinner but I guess you all think your sins are better than hers. More acceptable.
See the above comment.
God help all of you.
May I highly suggest that you actually study God's Word instead of following anti-Biblical sentiments coming from liberal religionists.
Don't know if it would take a liberal judge.
It seems as if there may be an implicit contract in allowing her to apply without asking for a scholarship in the first place. I'm not a lawyer, but another student _was_ denied admission based on Brown accepting her. Her only reason for needing a scholarship now is because her father changed his mind.
Excellent advice. :-)
It doesn't help that her brother is apparently sabotaging the parents efforts by giving her a place to live.
I share your negative bias. There seems something fishy about him but I haven't followed all the details of his previous history.
Do you have specifics?
A Commandment With a Promise
"Honor thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee," Exodus 20:12. "Honor thy father and thy mother, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee," Deuteronomy 5:16. "Ye shall fear every man his mother, and his father . . . ," Leviticus 19:3. "Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. Honor thy father and thy mother; which is the first commandment with promise; That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth. And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord," Ephesians 6:1-4. "Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord. Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged," Colossians 3:20-21.
"My son, hear the instruction of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother," Proverbs 1:8. "A wise son maketh a glad father: but a foolish man despiseth his mother," Proverbs 15:20. "Children’s children are the crown of old men; and the glory of children are their fathers," and, "A foolish son is a grief to his father, and bitterness to her that bare him," Proverbs 17:6, 25. "A foolish son is the calamity of his father," and, "He that wasteth his father, and chaseth away his mother, is a son that causeth shame, and bringeth reproach," Proverbs 19:13, 26. "Hearken unto thy father that begat thee, and despise not thy mother when she is old," Proverbs 23:22. "Correct thy son, and he shall give thee rest; yea, he shall give delight unto thy soul," Proverbs 29:17. "For whom the Lord loveth He chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom He receiveth," Hebrews 12:6.
Not a Light Thing to Disobey Parents
"Cursed be he that setteth light by his father or his mother. And all the people shall say, Amen," Deuteronomy 27:16. "And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death, . . . And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death," Exodus 21:15, 17. "For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him," Leviticus 20:9. "If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold of him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear," Deuteronomy 21:18-21.
"The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it out, and the young eagles shall eat it," Proverbs 30:17. "Whoso curseth his father or his mother, his lamp shall be put out in obscure darkness," Proverbs 20:20.
Without Family Affection
"Thou shalt rise up before the hoary head, and honour the face of the old man, and fear thy God: I am the LORD," Leviticus 19:32. "There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother," Proverbs 30:11. "And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them. And the people shall be oppressed, every one by another, and every one by his neighbor: the child shall behave himself proudly against the ancient, and the base against the honorable . . . . As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them," Isaiah 3:4-5, 12. "This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection," II Timothy 3:1-5.
"For God commanded, saying, Honor thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; And honor not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition," Matthew 15:4-6 (see also Mark 7:10-13). " . . . what shall I do to inherit eternal life? . . . Thou knowest the commandments, . . . Honor thy father and thy mother," Luke 18:18-20.
" . . . There is no man that hath left house, or parents, or brethren, or wife, or children, for the kingdom of God’s sake, Who shall not receive manifold more in this present time, and in the world to come life everlasting," Luke 18:29-30. "If any man come to me, and hate not [love less by comparison] his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple," Luke 14:26.
Jesus confronted the Samaritan woman at the well with her sin of five marriages and being shacked up with the man she was with then, and told her to sin no more. Jesus called the Pharisees a brood of vipers, whitewashed tombs and empty vessels.
Mam, I don't think Jesus is sweet enough for you.
Haqve to give credit where credit is due. I stole that line from a book title: Moral Relativism: Feet Planted Firmly In Mid-Air"
It's an excellent book and I highly recommend it.
You can order it here:
www.equip.org
You do not bend God's Word to gain party favor. I'm quite suprised so many 'Christians' are absolutely gleeful about a man disowning his daughter instead of praying for the whole family. Disowning one's own family member is neither Christian or conservative. But it's evident it's quite the Republican thing to do..What's next? Hunting down every family member who we feel is not living the Christian lifestyle and show them tough love? Just be careful not to get your robes too dirty getting down with us lowly sinners while you're thinning the herd. (Luke 18:9-14)
And neither did it for Keyes.
Get your facts straight, you are looking more like a subjectivist leftist who is bent on character asassination regardless of the facts.
Well said.
"Gleeful"? Where do you see that?
"Disowning"? You believe refusing to condone a sinful lifestyle and not paying for college is disownment?
Just be careful not to get your robes too dirty getting down with us lowly sinners while you're thinning the herd. (Luke 18:9-14)
Perhaps you should take your own advice.
No, it's precisely the same thing. He put her out of his house, from out of his protection and benefits, just as in excommunication.
While you offered nothing but hyperbolic, hypersensitive rhetoric without any attempt at presenting a cogent, rational response.
BTW, how do you know folks aren't praying for them??
I hope and pray you are correct.
BUT, even if se does, will Dr. Keyes know or care? If it is correct as the article said, broke off all communication then I feel he has gone a step too far.
Out of the house, and no more financial support are appropriate.
However, cutting off all communication? Not even the Prodigal's father went that far.
On homosexuality? Christianity? What Keyes did? What his daughter did? And like what possessed you to post on this thread in such short hard to grasp hit and run verbiage?
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