MICHAEL SCHIAVO'S LEGAL FLIP-FLOP

Robert Drobot | 22 Feb 2005 | Robert Drobot

[Robert Drobot]

Has Terri's legal team pursued the question of Michael's testimony before the malpractice jury, and compared it to the the 180 he did to get a court to order the murder of Terri Schindler?

[the invisib1e hand]

forgive me for being skeptical, but I've never heard "part I" before. Can you provide sources?

Thanks.

[Robert Drobot]

Ping Alert! Please ping your lists.

[tutstar]

That's a good question!

This ought to get a few people to perspiring once they know about it....

http://www.theempirejournal.com/22105002_pattern_of_alleged_coll.htm

Affidavits have been signed which point to previous collusion in Greer's courtroom as well as refusing to accept evidence.

[Robert Drobot]

The hundreds of threads dealing with MS winning a malpractice award in Terri's name are here for the search. I don't have the time or inclination to do your research.

Go to terrisfight.org do a little searching around there.

No disrespect, but it's hard to believe a FReeper supporting Terri, isn't aware of the 'part I', as you put it.

[trebb]

I still say that anyone wanting to pull her feeding tube be forced to go 3 days without liquid intake to get an idea of how it feels...

[cyn]

Thanks for posting this as its own thread. This was discussed a bit on the daily Terri thread yesterday -- have to go in a minute, so can't put my hand on it now.

These photos were, I believe, used in court -- or at least in the court of public opinion in the St. Pete area. The St. Pete Times photographer is, I believe, still with the paper -- as I posted with these pictures last year, I'm sure it did not take him long to get these photos. Terri is very obviously "THERE". Not in a coma. Not PVS.

Terri after the accident, yet before Mikie remembered her wish not to have a feeding tube, (and before he got the settlement):

THANKS tuckrdout for posting these photos on the other thread. They are timeless.

the invisible hand, FL engineer's home page has some great Terri links that might also be of help -- he has a GREAT Terri post that he might slap up here, esp. since they support RD's thread so well.

RD, we should get that "transcript" of the MedPlex reports on this thread, too, and the court transcripts that Michael wanted to be a nurse so that he could care for her "forever".

Sorry, I have got to go.

[Halls]

Can you add me to your ping list? Thanks!

[the invisib1e hand]

You'll surely be flabbergasted to learn that I've lived in the same county as Terry Schiavo for over 15 years and that I have done work for Hospice of the Florida Suncoast.

Mr. Schiavo's financial shenanigans were of no interest to me until now; the responsibility of a just government to protect innocent life has always been.

[queenkathy]

I went to your site but it doesn't answer why did he win a malpractice suit? What did the hospital do wrong?

[cyn]

"anyone wanting to pull her feeding tube...

ANOTHER crucial concept someone made is that Terri's g tube does not have to be "pulled" -- which is unnecessary surgery (w/possibility of infection, discomfort, mental anguish, etc). >> All they have to do is simply not pour her nutrition into the tube! <<

"Pulling the tube" is superfluous, NOT something being done "in Terri's best interest".

Clearly this is all about hype, public opinion, public perception. The public is actively encouraged to confuse her feeding tube with a ventilator.

gotta go, so sorry.

[Future Useless Eater]

Two more photos from your pre-jury-award collection, which are ironic because Mikey NOW doesn't allow Terri to have a working wheelchair or go outside!

[Robert Drobot]

I'm rarely 'flabbergasted; especially on the internet, where truth is as foreign as illegal aliens.

[cyn]

Michael Schiavo: Loving Husband or Monster? -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1347403/posts?page=94 /blockquote>

[cyn]

Here is the link to that post from supercat -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1333205/posts?page=2373#2373:

Latest entry in my blog

Why remove a feeding tube anyway

If a patient is on a ventilator and it is desired to discontinue artificial ventilation, there are reasons to physically remove the ventilator. It's bulky, useless (once its function is discontinued), and its continued presence could interfere with natural breathing.

A gastrostomic tube, however, is not a piece of external equipment to which a patient is connected. Nor does it interfere with "normal" eating. Instead, a g-tube is just a small tube that connects the stomach to the abdominal wall. A second mouth, basically. A funnel or food bag can be connected to it at feeding time, but otherwise it just sits there. Unlike a big bulky ventilator, or even an IV, a gastrosomic tube does not interfere with patient mobility nor with anything else a patient might want to do.

Even if a patient is in end-stage cancer and doesn't want to be fed, a gastrostomic tube cannot not by itself force unwanted food into the patient. If it's necessary to stop feeding a patient, a caregiver can simply decline to put any more food through the tube.

To be sure, there are sometimes good reasons to remove a g-tube:

1. The tube becomes clogged or infected; in this case, normal protocol would be to remove the old one and install a new one.
2. The patient regains sufficient ability to take food by mouth that there is no anticipated future need for the feeding tube and its continued presence would do naught but create a risk of future infection.

Discontinuing food and water for a terminal hydration for a terminal patient, however, is not a good reason for removing a g-tube. The tube's continued presence doesn't hurt the patient, and removing the feeding tube represents an unnecessary surgery with no therapeutic benefit.

Why, then, are feeding tubes removed from terminal or supposedly-terminal patients?

Because, to the uninitiated, "removing a feeding tube" sounds much more like letting nature take its course than does "stopping feeding the patient".

Other posts to that part of the thread also helpful.

Latest entry in my blog

[cyn]

the above line of thought shows that Michael is by no means seeking what is best for Terri by subjecting her to unnecessary surgery.

If you're gonna starve her, just stop feeding her. And yeah, it IS just that cruel.

[Dr. Thorne]

My wife's opinion is that Michael wants her dead because he put her there in the first place. If Michael Schiavo assaulted her, as he has assaulted women in the past, causing her brain damage and putting her in the hospital, would he want her to receive therapy that could possibly help her regain her speech or movement? Does this explain why he has denied her any therapy that could help her is this regard?

Why doesn't the court ask these questions?

[the invisib1e hand]

cyn, looks like a good read. thank you.

[Jersey Republican Biker Chick]

Terri Ping!!

Thoughtful article!

[Spunky]

Prayers are going up for Terrie.

I have a niece who a year ago ended up similar to Terrie. She was in a coma for a month but when she came out of it she eventually was able to talk. She is not able to move on her own, or go to the bathroom or feed herself. She has seizures and they have to keep her heavily medicated in order to keep her body from thrashing around.

When her brother went to see her she told him she didn't want to die.