Umm, Mr "hide behind my key board" calls me a traitor, calls the free market treason, and cries like a child about name calling.
Posted on 02/15/2005 6:44:11 AM PST by dennisw
ROTFLMAO. Pitiful.
I do not want to get in trouble with the government price control board.
So if the government tells you who you have to buy your beer from and what the local taxes are, that's not price control? I mean, you could sell it a loss I suppose. Based on your other comments, I don't doubt it.
When they regulate your business and tell you how much you have to pay your waitresses, they don't set the price?
You support minimum wage laws or not? You seem to keep ignoring that question.
Listen jerk off I came to fr from usenet news and if you want a flame war I will be more then happy to rip you a new one, but I will not do it here on FR. Just name another forum and I will happy met you there.
You ought to have a comedy show.
PS, we ain't friends.
You honestly have not seen advertisement for Beer, Wine, and Cigaretes at State Minimum Prices?
No facial piercing or facial tattoos.
I get tired of posting it, but I have friends with 150+ IQ's and PhD's from the top schools in the US who were summarily outsourced to India to save money.
At best, they end up getting to do contract work as quality control to put back together the stuff that the offshorers messed up.
LOL
"I was giving you friendly advice on how to debate, and warning you that the mods do monitor theads and take a dim view of insulting posters."
You are picking out the stupid gov. regulations. If you reread my post I said there was a fine line between going to far with regulations. I agree the gov't has gone too far in their regulations. However in every regulatory category you cite I would not want to be without any of them. Anarchy would result.
No, they defend the market. And it's the market that sets prices. Remember the market.. that thing that used to be the determinant before profit motive and treason became the rule of the day... This crap about the government setting prices and being socialist because of tarifs is a new dodge developed in hopes that someone might mistake it for an argument. It is a fraud and demonstrably so. Our forefathers had it right and we prospered for hundreds of years because of it. But when profit isn't enough profit for you money-holics, it isn't enough to drink 18 hours a day and be a burden to your family and friends, you want to drink 36 hours a day and to hell with everyone. You can't excercise rational judgement or self constraint. Someone has to point out the obvious truth and constrain you. And I think it's safe to say, that's what the argument here is about - why you will be constrained eventually. The people will not longsuffer this situation. Your muddled arguments are failing and you guys are rightly in panic mode - resorting to epithets and name calling.
What you're doing is treason. And there will be a price, the more you fight, the bigger that price is likely to be. And Congress better wake up and get a grip on that. We're happy to settle things out here as long as representatives are actually representing us. If it becomes Taxation without representation or anything like it, you should as an american, know what to expect is coming - especially when the conditions you set are a predictor of it. Congress needs to wake up, get off their dead asses (and I know they aren't used to such language), and do their jobs instead of looking out for their self interests and those of the Corporations over those of the Citizenry collectively. This is the United States of America, not the United Businesses of America or the United Workers of America. We are employers, employees, students and retirees. But the businesses and courts have become a defacto government to themselves while the Congress has taken a role of complicity in it. We are at war in more ways than one. And the treason of free trade threatens to extend that internally. Ballots won't stop bullets if Congress and you Business profit-aholics can't or won't constrain yourselves. Republicans were sent to the hill to put an end to subversive conduct, not to add to it. If the fix worsens things, it doesn't leave too many options - does it.
Minuim wage, labor needs some means of protecting itself from capitalism, personally I would favor collective bargaining over minuim wage, but since collective bargaining is all bbut dead in the USA I suppose minum wage is better then nothing. But I do have mixed feeling about it.
Nope, but nice try. They set the prices to "defend" the market. BTW, the market doesn't need "defending" in a free society.
The company I work for has over 700 job openings in aerospace, and they're scrambling to fill them. There are jobs out there, folks just need to look for them, and once found, be willing to move.
That appears to be the big problem in my field, nobody seems inclined to move to where the jobs are and then cry foul because they can't find a similar job in their hometown.
Cheers!
No, I have not. Where do you live?
Quote: "Name me one country that does practice any of the above regulations at all where their people are not living in a corrugated tin shack and bathing in sewage and die when they are 40." You said:
USA circa 1800
Can't compare America of today with 1800 because it was an aguarian society.
I can compare it with america of 1890-1915 when it was industrilized and people worked like dogs.
350 posted on 02/15/2005 3:01:47 PM CST by jpsb [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 341 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]
Thanks Hillary, I knew we could finally to get you to own up to your socialist roots. LOL
Yes, I've heard that claim before. I believe that is why the government is looking more and more into the Anarchy that is the Internet. Not enough government control.
I am willing to live with a lot more anarchy and a lot less nanny state.
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To: Protagoras
Minuim wage, labor needs some means of protecting itself from capitalism, personally I would favor collective bargaining over minuim wage, but since collective bargaining is all bbut dead in the USA I suppose minum wage is better then nothing. But I do have mixed feeling about it.
350 posted on 02/15/2005 3:01:47 PM CST by jpsb
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I was defending your intelligence earlier, and am having second thoughts. This is like saying that the nation doesn't need a military in a free society. Your argument just collapsed. We aren't defending the market from our citizens; but, from externals who would do them harm. Just as a military in this nation is not intended to defend or war on US citezenry but to defend it from others. This is common sense. But then we were talking about your judgement being sorely lacking.. and you've illustrated what I've said about your treason being an unintended consequence of your own judgemental vacancies. Like an alcoholic, you don't think about the wall of flames between you and the alcohol, all you can see is the bottle.. the people on ropes you drag behind you into the fire are irrelevant.
If you allow the government to take 70% of your income instead of 50%, THEN they guarantee happiness.
Umm, Mr "hide behind my key board" calls me a traitor, calls the free market treason, and cries like a child about name calling.
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