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To: Protagoras
Government sets prices, you can pretend it's for anything you want.

No, they defend the market. And it's the market that sets prices. Remember the market.. that thing that used to be the determinant before profit motive and treason became the rule of the day... This crap about the government setting prices and being socialist because of tarifs is a new dodge developed in hopes that someone might mistake it for an argument. It is a fraud and demonstrably so. Our forefathers had it right and we prospered for hundreds of years because of it. But when profit isn't enough profit for you money-holics, it isn't enough to drink 18 hours a day and be a burden to your family and friends, you want to drink 36 hours a day and to hell with everyone. You can't excercise rational judgement or self constraint. Someone has to point out the obvious truth and constrain you. And I think it's safe to say, that's what the argument here is about - why you will be constrained eventually. The people will not longsuffer this situation. Your muddled arguments are failing and you guys are rightly in panic mode - resorting to epithets and name calling.

What you're doing is treason. And there will be a price, the more you fight, the bigger that price is likely to be. And Congress better wake up and get a grip on that. We're happy to settle things out here as long as representatives are actually representing us. If it becomes Taxation without representation or anything like it, you should as an american, know what to expect is coming - especially when the conditions you set are a predictor of it. Congress needs to wake up, get off their dead asses (and I know they aren't used to such language), and do their jobs instead of looking out for their self interests and those of the Corporations over those of the Citizenry collectively. This is the United States of America, not the United Businesses of America or the United Workers of America. We are employers, employees, students and retirees. But the businesses and courts have become a defacto government to themselves while the Congress has taken a role of complicity in it. We are at war in more ways than one. And the treason of free trade threatens to extend that internally. Ballots won't stop bullets if Congress and you Business profit-aholics can't or won't constrain yourselves. Republicans were sent to the hill to put an end to subversive conduct, not to add to it. If the fix worsens things, it doesn't leave too many options - does it.

349 posted on 02/15/2005 1:01:18 PM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade. Hang the traitors high)
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To: Havoc
No, they defend the market.

Nope, but nice try. They set the prices to "defend" the market. BTW, the market doesn't need "defending" in a free society.

351 posted on 02/15/2005 1:02:41 PM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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To: Havoc
resorting to epithets and name calling.

Umm, Mr "hide behind my key board" calls me a traitor, calls the free market treason, and cries like a child about name calling.


360 posted on 02/15/2005 1:10:17 PM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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