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End Times(Bill Buckley hopes Pope Joh Paul will die! OUTRAGEOUS!)
National Review.online ^ | 2/9/2005 | William F. Buckley Jr.

Posted on 02/13/2005 1:53:33 PM PST by kellynla

At church on Sunday the congregation was asked to pray for the recovery of the Pope. I have abstained from doing so. I hope that he will not recover.

The seizure brought on by his dramatic trip to the hospital a week ago suggests the international sense of his indispensability. Pope John Paul is a graphic figure in the lives of Catholics and many non-Catholics. He is of course a towering theological figure who has presided over the development of Catholic thought and practice for the 26 years of his papacy. He is a major historical figure, who began as a Catholic seminarian in a Poland subservient first to a Nazi overlord (they hanged him in Nuremberg), then to a Communist overlord (nothing happened to him — the Communists are never prosecuted). From that scene he succeeded to the Holy See, where he was the symbol of hope and, after the Communists fell, of triumph, distinctive in his bid for international recognition as a God-fearing man of good will.

I remember him as he was leaving Havana to return to Rome. Fidel Castro was there to recite the diplomatic amenities. The pope was standing on the gangway of his airplane and suddenly rain fell. As John Paul spoke under an improvised parasol, his three-minute farewell address evolved, in near-perfect Spanish, into a homily on water's purifying mission. All of Cuba watched on television, no doubt hoping, for an exhilarating moment, that Castro would melt away, Cuba shriven from the antipodal reign of a tyrant who came to power even before the pope did, and will outlast him.

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I am sure God will take the pope when He is ready and not one second sooner! God bless Pope John Paul!
1 posted on 02/13/2005 1:53:33 PM PST by kellynla
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To: Admin Moderator

Please add an "n" to the the Pope's name "John" in the title.
Thank you


2 posted on 02/13/2005 1:55:13 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla; Salvation; All

"I am sure God will take the pope when He is ready and not one second sooner! God bless Pope John Paul!"Thank you Sister Lucja "pass away"Thank you


3 posted on 02/13/2005 1:55:18 PM PST by anonymoussierra (Quo Vadis Domine? Quo Vadis? Thank you)
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To: kellynla

I just wonder if the Pope is really running the show at the Vatican anymore ?


4 posted on 02/13/2005 1:57:20 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: kellynla

Wm F Buckley - buffoon - period!


5 posted on 02/13/2005 1:58:40 PM PST by rockabyebaby (What goes around, comes around!)
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To: kellynla

I don't think Buckley's point is quite what you have taken from the article. He seems to be saying that God will decide the time of our return to Him and constant medical interventions may not be so very great after all. I tend to agree with this.


6 posted on 02/13/2005 1:59:59 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: rockabyebaby

Not really. Prayers for a happy death ought to be part of all of our prayers for the Holy Father. He's not going to live forever, after all.


7 posted on 02/13/2005 2:00:12 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: kellynla

The faithful in Christ Jesus need not fear death. When a loved one suffers greatly from an incurable condition, it is mericful to pray that the Lord will take them home.


8 posted on 02/13/2005 2:00:15 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: John Lenin
I just wonder if the Pope is really running the show at the Vatican anymore ?

Probably not at this point, he's more likely just a figurehead.

9 posted on 02/13/2005 2:02:50 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Bahbah

yea well "not praying for someone's recovery" is hardly "Christian" much less "Catholic"
and it looks like the Pope has disappointed Buckley and anyone else that did not want him back!!!


10 posted on 02/13/2005 2:04:38 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: rockabyebaby
I am not a Catholic but have long admired Pope John Paul...I feel he is a man of God and God has a spot in heaven for him...I have a concern for all churches; with the leadership more concerned about political correctness rather than Biblical truths...I pray that the next leader of the Catholic Church will be as strong in his faith is this one is....
11 posted on 02/13/2005 2:05:18 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: rockabyebaby

You can thank the bufoon for being integral to the change in political discourse that eventually gave us Ronald Reagan as president.

But, that probably doesn't count for anything.


12 posted on 02/13/2005 2:09:25 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: rockabyebaby

You can thank the bufoon for being integral to the change in political discourse that eventually gave us Ronald Reagan as president.

But, that probably doesn't count for anything.


13 posted on 02/13/2005 2:09:28 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: kellynla
"not praying for someone's recovery" is hardly "Christian" much less "Catholic"

Oh, kelly, not really. I am Catholic and pray often for God's will to be done rather than for the result that I want.

14 posted on 02/13/2005 2:09:29 PM PST by Bahbah
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"At church on Sunday the congregation was asked to pray for the recovery of the Pope. I have abstained from doing so. I hope that he will not recover."What is this!!!!What cretin person write this!!!!


15 posted on 02/13/2005 2:09:52 PM PST by anonymoussierra (Quo Vadis Domine? Quo Vadis? Thank you)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
I agree that is probably what Buckley meant, but he expressed it badly.

There is a big difference in my mind between saying that you hope that the Pope will not continue to suffer a long and lingering death and hoping "that he will not recover."

I am not Catholic, but I hope that the Pope recovers. If he does not recover, then I hope that he passes quickly with a minimum of suffering. In either event, it is in the Lord's hands.

16 posted on 02/13/2005 2:11:45 PM PST by kennedy ("Why would I listen to losers?")
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To: kellynla
I have abstained from doing so. I hope that he will not recover.

God noted that, and if the Pope dies, it's all Buckley's fault.

17 posted on 02/13/2005 2:12:39 PM PST by anonymous_user (Not everything's a conspiracy.)
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To: John Lenin; Don'tMessWithTexas

And as any Catholic worth their weight in salt knows you "pray for someone" and you leave the decision up to God...you definitely don't refrain from praying for anyone...but then Buckley's compass has been out of sync for some time!


18 posted on 02/13/2005 2:14:33 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: anonymoussierra

As I noted in the title of the thread "Outrageous!"
God bless Pope John Paul!

Semper Fi,
Kelly


19 posted on 02/13/2005 2:18:54 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: anonymous_user

Buckley's just lost my vote for Pope.


20 posted on 02/13/2005 2:19:28 PM PST by mhx
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