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When Sexuality Undercuts A Family's Ties
Washington Post ^ | February 13, 2005 | Marc Fisher

Posted on 02/13/2005 8:46:21 AM PST by Scenic Sounds

M aya Keyes loves her father and mother. She put off college and moved from the family home in Darnestown to Chicago to be with her dad on a grand adventure. Even though she disagrees with him on "almost everything" political, she worked hard for his quixotic and losing campaign for the U.S. Senate.

Now Maya Keyes -- liberal, lesbian and a little lost -- finds herself out on her own. She says her parents -- conservative commentator and perennial candidate Alan Keyes and his wife, Jocelyn -- threw her out of their house, refused to pay her college tuition and stopped speaking to her.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alankeyes; familyvalues; homosexualagenda
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To: Bald Eagle777

"What about a radical, belligerent anti-Christian, anti-family activist?"

The Buddhists next door are non-activist, non-belligerent, but anti-Christian. They support virtually all liberal causes. The other week when I was there, the daughter (who is still at home) was expressing support of gay marriage. The dad came unglued and actually called gays "little faggots" (with a proper English accent). Funny thing is, they home-schooled their girls (but support more funding for public schools) and were very strict, but not authoritarian. Perhaps this has something to do with the fact that the children of European parents tend to be better behaved because despite politics, parents there are still recognized as the heads of the family.

I asked them about their opposition to Christians. They truly believe a high percentage of Christians try to seek God, but are unenlightened, preaching but not practicing. The dad explained that so many skip over Christs' message and forget about the charity and compassion He espoused. I agree with him there. I mentioned to him a man who told me he went to India and met a guy at the market whose live chickens had their legs cut off instead of binded. His explanation to the shocked tourist was that the "chicken was a bad man in a former life." His reply was that it's the "human condition."


21 posted on 02/13/2005 9:42:00 AM PST by followerofchrist
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To: Scenic Sounds

My wife knew a woman in college who was a fully commited Lesbian ...she is now married to a Doctor (male)lives an upscale middle class existance and has 5 grown kids.


22 posted on 02/13/2005 9:42:51 AM PST by woofie
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To: followerofchrist

Excellent post!

Right on the mark!


23 posted on 02/13/2005 9:43:00 AM PST by It's me
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To: mountaineer
It's funny how kids, once they hit 18, squawk and squeal that they must be treated as adults, but when that's exactly what they get, they whine about it as unfair.

Well, of course. LOL.

And, even though the child has "hit 18" and become, in the eyes of the law, an adult, outside observers still tend to expect that the fiftyish parent will approach these kinds of issues with more maturity than the daughter. Is that fair?

24 posted on 02/13/2005 9:43:29 AM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: Scenic Sounds

I couldn't read the article becuase the WP site was apparently down, but I find it sad that her parents won't talk to her. I'm a big advocate unconditional love.


25 posted on 02/13/2005 9:47:11 AM PST by Melas
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To: Scenic Sounds
My 35 year old daughter abandoned her husband and decided to live a lesbian lifestyle. She is still my daughter and is still welcome in my home, alone. Her lover is not allowed in my home and this has caused my daughter to miss all major holidays. I have explained to her that her immoral choices has consequences.
26 posted on 02/13/2005 9:48:42 AM PST by phil1750 (Love like you've never been hurt;Dance like nobody's watching;PRAY like it's your last prayer)
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To: Scenic Sounds

Is there some link between lesbianism and conservative politicians?

It seems like a Lot of Repubs have lesbian daughters, sisters, etc.


27 posted on 02/13/2005 9:48:56 AM PST by rcocean
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To: BibChr

Bizarre. All this advice to Dr. Keyes! I think it's pretty safe to assume he knows what he is doing.


28 posted on 02/13/2005 9:50:24 AM PST by Dataman
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To: followerofchrist
I think you are absolutely right. When something is forced on you, you rebel and start looking for evidence that the people forcing you are wrong.

On the other hand, if you really respect someone you will try to understand their beliefs and emulate their behavior.

29 posted on 02/13/2005 9:53:18 AM PST by elmer fudd
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To: AmishDude

Can't access the entire access because Washingtonpost.com is undergoing maintenance, but here is my two cents: The public may never really know what happened. Sad story.


30 posted on 02/13/2005 9:53:59 AM PST by marajade
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To: Melas
I couldn't read the article becuase the WP site was apparently down,

Her side of the story (from the article):

Dad's side of the story (again, from the article):


31 posted on 02/13/2005 9:54:28 AM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: followerofchrist

Some children are just naturally rebellious. The very best parents can rear a child who chooses values 180 degrees opposite theirs.


32 posted on 02/13/2005 9:54:43 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: followerofchrist
A phrase that I used to great effect. (What do you think is right.) Both, 24 and 21, have turned out great! That phrase and a little gentle guidance Even at 5 and 6 years of age would lead them to what was right. Also (what do you think), this caused them to think for themselves. Neither voted for kerry.
33 posted on 02/13/2005 9:55:47 AM PST by W. W. SMITH
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To: Scenic Sounds

Thanks. There are always two sides to every story. Even though I may not agree with Keyes and his political views, like I stated to an earlier poster, very sad.


34 posted on 02/13/2005 9:56:35 AM PST by marajade
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To: mountaineer

Good observation.


35 posted on 02/13/2005 10:01:03 AM PST by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: Scenic Sounds

Tell them you love them, that you care for them, but that if they want your support, especially money and staying at home, they have to live by your rules.

Nobody bought me a college education.

To live at home, I had to live by my parents rules, although the rules were reasonable.

And that's life.

AS my daddy likes to say, cut bait or fish.

My oldest had this choice, and chose to move out (although no bridges were burned.) I expect him to go wild for awhile, decided it's not as fun as it seems, and then settle down.

That's normal.

To continue one's adolesence by saying "Mommy and Daddy hate me" is a sign of not enough hard lessons about life learned.


36 posted on 02/13/2005 10:05:48 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: followerofchrist

I've always maintained that I've never seen a child of overly strict parents who didn't become an accomplished liar. I've yet to see a single exception, although I'm sure one exists somewhere.


37 posted on 02/13/2005 10:06:19 AM PST by Melas
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To: Scenic Sounds

It's one thing to come out, it's another to come out on stage in the spotlight; fashions change, soon there will be a rash of "old-time-revivals" and the wheel will turn and turn...


38 posted on 02/13/2005 10:07:14 AM PST by Old Professer (When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.)
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To: MineralMan

I was thinking the same thing. I could see pulling the purse strings, but not talking to the child just seems incredibly wrong to me.


39 posted on 02/13/2005 10:08:35 AM PST by Melas
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To: KC_for_Freedom

"Being Jewish I can comment from a different point of view. Parenting is hard work, and we don't always get things right, and this has nothing to do with how strict or strong our religious beliefs.

We insisted our son go to classes leading to his Bar Mitzvah. He was reluctant, but did have his friends who felt the same way in class. After resisting for several years, he came through for us and himself in the last 6 months and did a good job. He also has not set foot inside a synagogue since, (well once in college to check out for Jewish girls in the new community). But we feel it was our job to provide the experience and he does not regret it now. On the contrary, a Jewish student I had in High School said he did regret dropping our of his class. So you have these choices to make. We did not force him to continue music lessons, (maybe that was a mistake?)"

God Bless your boy and I bet he isn't a screw-up because you loved him right let go when it was time. These days, being a successful parent means your kid works, doesn't do drugs and hasn't been in jail.

Correct me if I am wrong, but my observation of Jewish families is that many of the kids from conservative backgrounds turn out to be liberal atheists. My best friend in high school was (and still is, as far as I know!) a Jew. She was a staunch atheist and absolutely refused to attend synagogue. But she was a kosher vegetarian and after college, was very conscious of dating only Jewish men.

This is unrelated, but I've got to relay this funny story about us. One day she called me and told me she went to a party. The man whose house it was at (he was in a band)apparantly shoved her. She didn't know this, but he was a drug dealer. She went into the bathroom, came out and noticed all the lights were out and said "What's going on?" There was a cop across the street, but instead of telling her to duck down, he shoved her, to the ground, and told her to shut up. He never apologized. She was humiliated, and we discussed how to regain the power she lost that night. I talked her into something this good girl would have never otherwise done, as I was apparantly Gentile a corrupter of nice Jewish girls. These were my atheist days, so revenge was very much on the table. I mentioned that in the back yard was a doggie poop bucket with an airtight lid. I was determined to make this man pay for hurting my friend. So we took out the plastic bag containing the moist, moldy dog poop and placed it in my trunk (something I regretted for the next 3 months). We went to the store and picked out a card that said "Just wanted you to know how I feel about you..." We drove by, dressed in disguises (black Celtic cloak and ball cap for me), and before we passed his house I said "wouldn't it be proof of God's existence if the windows in his van were rolled down?" We had planned to place the poop at his doorstep, but as fate would have it, his van (with all of his band equiptment) was open with the windows down. We parked a block away and snuck around like criminals, casing the area and trying to keep our voices low. The lights were out. She was so scared of being caught. I proceeded to take the dog poop and toss it around his van (with gloves on of course). She then got her courage, placed the card in his window and took the bag and started rubbing the dog poop in his seats. I then got a little nervous and insisted we leave. She then pulled out some eggs from her pocket and started throwing them at his windows as we retreated, like a couple of covert soldiers tossing grenades. But soldiers don't giggle and laugh as they retreat, but we did, even after his lights went on. She and I laughed for months over this. We imagined him leaving for work the next day and discovering this scene as he sipped up his coffee. We discussed what technique he used to remove the moldy dog poop from his guitar box. We never even heard of this incident, not even through the local band scene. My mom told me that the end doesn't justify the means, but my friend got her dignity back after this. It was well worth it.


40 posted on 02/13/2005 10:13:08 AM PST by followerofchrist
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