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When Sexuality Undercuts A Family's Ties
Washington Post ^ | February 13, 2005 | Marc Fisher

Posted on 02/13/2005 8:46:21 AM PST by Scenic Sounds

M aya Keyes loves her father and mother. She put off college and moved from the family home in Darnestown to Chicago to be with her dad on a grand adventure. Even though she disagrees with him on "almost everything" political, she worked hard for his quixotic and losing campaign for the U.S. Senate.

Now Maya Keyes -- liberal, lesbian and a little lost -- finds herself out on her own. She says her parents -- conservative commentator and perennial candidate Alan Keyes and his wife, Jocelyn -- threw her out of their house, refused to pay her college tuition and stopped speaking to her.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alankeyes; familyvalues; homosexualagenda
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Children rejecting the values of their parents is an old story, I guess. What should a father do?
1 posted on 02/13/2005 8:46:21 AM PST by Scenic Sounds
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To: Scenic Sounds

It also happens when grown children take up living with a boyfriend/girlfriend, or get married, or even change colleges/degree field. When you're an adult, people expect you to pay your own way. How ODD!

It's not uncommon - I've had it happen to friends of mine. Usually because they got MARRIED to a guy mom and dad didn't care for...


2 posted on 02/13/2005 8:52:21 AM PST by dandelion (http://thequestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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To: Scenic Sounds; Dataman; EggsAckley
The media only knows two family situations featuring homosexual children.

The first: a homosexual child is portrayed as a warm, vulnerable human being, whose parents wisely and lovingly approve of his choice to embrace his homosexual passions. These are good parents. There are (in the media's eyes) a lot of these.

The second: a homosexual child is portrayed as a warm, vulnerable human being, whose parents hatefully, narrow-mindedly, ignorantly and irrationally reject his choice to embrace his homosexual passions. These are evil parents. There are (in the media's eyes) a not many of these.

There is no third category.

Dan
Biblical Christianity BLOG

3 posted on 02/13/2005 8:52:50 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Scenic Sounds

Oy vey!


4 posted on 02/13/2005 8:53:26 AM PST by jocon307 (Vote George Washington for the #1 spot)
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To: Scenic Sounds

Why is it that when an adult child is expected to get out and support themselves - the media chooses to portray it as "throwing out?"

aside from the fact that it's just PC in this case.


5 posted on 02/13/2005 9:02:53 AM PST by Wneighbor
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To: Scenic Sounds

I see this sort of thing in many conservative families. Sometimes when you push kids too hard, they go the other direction. Look at Cheney. I look around me and see all the troubled kids whose parents go to the local Baptist church. Then I see the neighbors, Buddhists, who have two wonderful daughters, both on college scholarships, both virgins and neither on drugs. I watched them interact. They were strict but loving and never forced their beleifs on their kids. I hate to say it, but my Christian friends, who FORCE their kids go to bible study and youth group, most have rotton kids always up to no good. They exhibit authoritarian leadership, which gives kids no sense of power or individuality. Kids want to make their own choices as teens (it's natural), and if parents let them, while modelling good moral behavior, they have a better chance of not falling into degeneracy. I know only a few Christian families whose teenage (and older) kids follow the path. One comes up to visit us monthly (we have a cabin on the property). Their boys are a dream, the kind of boys people wish they had. They actually volunteer to help out when they see us cutting wood, bathing the horse, working in the garden, etc... They are not fundamentalists, but pray daily and are very kind, considerate, open minded people. They don't pressure their boys to be good, nor are they authoritarian. They show trust for them and respect their individuality. They raised their kids the same way the Buddhist neighbors did. Both sets of kids are well-balanced and wise for their age.
Pointing them in the right moral direction, rather than dragging them, kicking and screaming, down your path, is the key to helping them grow spiritually and making the right choices in life.


6 posted on 02/13/2005 9:05:11 AM PST by followerofchrist
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To: Scenic Sounds
As the article explains, the Left has ridden to the rescue here:
On Thursday, the Point Foundation, a San Francisco-based charity that provides scholarships to students "who have been marginalized because of their sexual orientation," decided to pay Maya's expenses so she can begin her studies at Brown.

7 posted on 02/13/2005 9:08:15 AM PST by madprof98
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To: Wneighbor
Why is it that when an adult child is expected to get out and support themselves - the media chooses to portray it as "throwing out?"

I guess they do that for economy. In other words, instead of saying "removed from the household premises with instructions not to return" they just say "throwing out."

In this case, dad has apparently also discontinued his support for her education and apparently even refuses to speak with her at all. It must be a very difficult thing to do, don't you think?

8 posted on 02/13/2005 9:10:16 AM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: followerofchrist

Being Jewish I can comment from a different point of view. Parenting is hard work, and we don't always get things right, and this has nothing to do with how strict or strong our religious beliefs.

We insisted our son go to classes leading to his Bar Mitzvah. He was reluctant, but did have his friends who felt the same way in class. After resisting for several years, he came through for us and himself in the last 6 months and did a good job. He also has not set foot inside a synagogue since, (well once in college to check out for Jewish girls in the new community). But we feel it was our job to provide the experience and he does not regret it now. On the contrary, a Jewish student I had in High School said he did regret dropping our of his class. So you have these choices to make. We did not force him to continue music lessons, (maybe that was a mistake?)


9 posted on 02/13/2005 9:15:01 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: followerofchrist
Very wise post.

Moral behavior cannot be imposed. It must come from within.

10 posted on 02/13/2005 9:15:52 AM PST by SamAdams76 (Earth is just a prison for intergalactic riff-raff)
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To: BibChr

What about a radical, belligerent anti-Christian, anti-family activist? Should someone be unwillingly coerced/compelled/forced to subsidize that which is anathema to one's deeply-held religious principles? Additionally, there is the funding/financial issue. If you write the check, that creates a responsibility and entails certain rights.

An adult lives with one's parents at the grace and mercy of the parents. If the adult child is a belligerent radical homosexual activist, the parents are clearly within their rights to kick out the activist, with an aim to save their lost soul, if possible. Hopefully the errant and deviant child will "come to their senses" like the Prodigal Son, repent and straighten out and fly straight.

[Why I chose principles, not values: Forget "values", Nietzsche taught us that "values" are relative and can change or be changed, let's stick with unchanging Biblical Principles instead. Values are vacuous, values change.]


11 posted on 02/13/2005 9:16:43 AM PST by Bald Eagle777 (The Chinese military is the opposition force. Traitors at home aid and abet them.)
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To: Scenic Sounds

the site is down, so I can't get details..

how old is said "child"?

If she is still college aged, and actually DID drop out to help her father's campaign, then I would think that short of some catasthropic event, her parents would be happy to fund her education and get her out of the house. Or help her find her way.


12 posted on 02/13/2005 9:24:24 AM PST by bitt (Kerry "Hanoi"s me)
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To: Scenic Sounds
What should a father do?

Just what he did...throw her out. I'm sure there is more to this than the sanitized WP version. The MSM always leave out the salacious details and reduce homos to a "loving partnership", when usually it is all just about deviant sexual activity.

13 posted on 02/13/2005 9:28:30 AM PST by montag813
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To: bitt
how old is said "child"?

From the article:

I don't think dad has any legal obligation to provide her with shelter, financial support or even conversation. However, the father-daughter relationship cannot be dissolved - she will always be his daughter and he her only father. So, I guess the question is not what must he do, but instead what should he do, under the circumstances.

14 posted on 02/13/2005 9:32:10 AM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: Scenic Sounds

It's funny how kids, once they hit 18, squawk and squeal that they must be treated as adults, but when that's exactly what they get, they whine about it as unfair.


15 posted on 02/13/2005 9:35:24 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: Scenic Sounds

Which one are you today?


16 posted on 02/13/2005 9:37:34 AM PST by patton (Matthew 6:6)
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To: Scenic Sounds

The parable of the prodigal son comes to mind in these situations.

I don't know about the rest of you all, but I know I disappointed my parents many times in my young adult life. Yet, they were always glad to see me and would never have turned me out of their home.

They often expressed their disappointment with a path I had taken, but always in loving terms.


17 posted on 02/13/2005 9:40:16 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Scenic Sounds

Another excuse for the Washington Post to print anything negative about a conservative.

I wonder what the ration of Conservative kids to Liberal Kids end up in prison.

Bet the liberals win hands down.


18 posted on 02/13/2005 9:40:22 AM PST by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: Scenic Sounds

Another excuse for the Washington Post to print anything negative about a conservative.

I wonder what the ration of Conservative kids to Liberal Kids end up in prison.

Bet the liberals win hands down.


19 posted on 02/13/2005 9:40:27 AM PST by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: Scenic Sounds
Actually, we heard rumblings about this before. My guess is that the timeline is a bit different. I would guess that she threatened to undermine her father first and that is when he decided that he would not finance her radicalism.

Note that she's not just a lesbian, she's "a liberal queer". The politics inform the sexuality, it seems. The WaPo wants to make it seem like her politics are a result of how her nasty father treated her. My suspicion is that it's just the opposite and she's a thoroughly unpleasant person to be around.

20 posted on 02/13/2005 9:41:07 AM PST by AmishDude
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