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Medved on O'Reilly tonight to debate Million Dollar Baby

Posted on 02/07/2005 3:03:09 PM PST by EveningStar

Medved on O'Reilly tonight to debate Million Dollar Baby.

Fox: 8 Easter / 5 Pacific


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To: Cogadh na Sith

I guess we have different definitions of courage and heart.


441 posted on 02/09/2005 4:06:52 PM PST by Hildy ( To work is to dance, to live is to worship, to breathe is to love.)
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To: Cogadh na Sith
I agree.

I think people who live in pain and/or are crippled and yet live life to the fullest show true courage.

Reeves was a very brave man who fought to the last.
442 posted on 02/09/2005 4:20:39 PM PST by rcocean
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To: Hildy
This is my problem with Euthanasia

In the Netherlands Euthanasia is legal.

By Legalizing Euthanasia, the Netherlands has opened up "the flood gates."

Last year 22 babies were Euthanised because they had "incurable diseases." One of the diseases mentioned was Spinal Bfida.
People with Spinal Bfida may not be able to walk, but they are alive as you or me. I don't think that those doctors had a right to kill those babies.

Maybe you think, well I wouldn't be for Euthanising babies. But somehow a doctor was still able to stick a needle into a little baby's arm because someone said that that child would suffer so much, we might as well put him out of his misery.

How about the elderly?

In Netherlands in many Nursing homes, There has been some controversy over whether or not doctors have taken it upon themselves to Euthanise the elderly without being asked to. It has become common place for elderly men and women to walk around with Papers basically saying "Do NOT Euthanize."

As for someone like Maggie, was her life really not worth anything where she should just Die? Death is the end of everything. It is the final answer.

The question here is "Who decides who lives and who dies" and "What qualifications are there to be Euthanised"

Some people are physically healthy and suffer from emotional disorders such as Depression. If that individual wants to be Euthanised should he or she be?

What about a a depressed Elderly man? He is of no use to society, all he does is collect Social Security. What if he is so miserable he wants to die. Should he be Euthanised?

People like you and me look at abortion here, and we think "What has happened to the sanctity of life?"
"Why do people not respect life" "When did a baby become a clump of cells?"

Well, when does an elderly person become a "drain on society"

Ultimately, I feel we should leave Euthanasia up to God. It is not for us to decide who lives and who dies.
443 posted on 02/09/2005 5:44:09 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

I have one thing to say. We are not the Netherlands.


444 posted on 02/09/2005 5:48:54 PM PST by Hildy ( To work is to dance, to live is to worship, to breathe is to love.)
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To: Hildy
""I suppose if you're a superficial asshole, you'd think it was a movie ABOUT euthanasia.""


Well Hildy,

I guess I'm a superficial asshole.

I respect your opinion, I would appreciate it if you respected mine.

That's a hateful and hurtful thing to say to someone.
445 posted on 02/09/2005 5:51:59 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: Hildy


I feel we can learn alot from experiance.

We aren't in Nazi Germany either, that doesn't mean we cannot learn from their mistakes.




446 posted on 02/09/2005 5:53:16 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Ding ding ding...less than 10 posts before the word Nazi is thrown in. You get a cupie doll.


447 posted on 02/09/2005 5:55:26 PM PST by Hildy ( To work is to dance, to live is to worship, to breathe is to love.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

OK Lauralee, I just saw your profile. YOU'RE 18 years old? I've just wasted a couple of hours of my life. I'll debate this with you when you're in your 40's, ok?


448 posted on 02/09/2005 5:56:31 PM PST by Hildy ( To work is to dance, to live is to worship, to breathe is to love.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Alright, how about Stalin?

Before Stalin threw people in concentration camps, he took away their guns.

What about the SS system? Chile's privatization has been very successful.

We learn from other's mistakes.
449 posted on 02/09/2005 5:57:30 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: Hildy


I'm going to take that off my profile.


450 posted on 02/09/2005 6:00:03 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Actually, I shouldn't be so harsh. You're a very good debater for your age. And you're passionate, as you should be. But there are things you learn as you age. I hope you don't learn them the hard way and I hope you stay as passionate as you are now.


451 posted on 02/09/2005 6:42:21 PM PST by Hildy ( To work is to dance, to live is to worship, to breathe is to love.)
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To: Hildy


Thankyou! God bless!


452 posted on 02/09/2005 6:46:28 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia, Ignore Germany, Punish France - Condoleezza Rice)
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To: jennyjenny
#22..Ya know what.

I really didn't like that movie.

She had her fast fling.....for what?

Her husband and children seemed kind and caring....

..but I felt her husband knew after the fact, regardless of her 'sacrifice' in staying with him.

And then....what a legacy for the children....

..they get to read all about it in her letters.....oh thrill....(sarcasm)

453 posted on 02/09/2005 6:52:05 PM PST by Guenevere (Sola Gratia)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Please don't. It makes a lot of us happy to see young Freepers on the board.

Don't let them get you down.

Hey, I'm in the National Guard and am looking at getting deployed (cool!). I ride a motorcycle, usta jump out of airplanes, boxed and generally enjoy a lot of high-risk stuff. I shudder to think of some close calls....

The idea of getting maimed, broken and/or paralyzed is not an academic one to me.

I've considered it at length. It would be bad, but not the end of my world. Heck, I'd keep living 'cuz it still beats the alternative.

It's just that we are so comfortable now, at this time and place, that comfort is more important than life to a lot of people.

454 posted on 02/09/2005 7:55:20 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (What God hath made, no man can kill it out.)
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To: Max7
Bravo!!!

I wish I could express myself half that well.

455 posted on 02/09/2005 7:58:19 PM PST by Zechariah11
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To: Hildy

Can I have a hug, too? :)


456 posted on 02/09/2005 7:58:29 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (What God hath made, no man can kill it out.)
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04

Everyone focuses on the big "denoument" of the character turning out to be a transexual. The work by Forrest Whittiker is top notch and Stephen Rae is amazing in that movie. I hate how really great movies get dismissed and summed up by one scene. I find almost everyone who talks about that movie has no clue what it was about. Its probably in my top 20, along with Kiss of the Spiderwoman, with Raul Julia and William Hurt, which also deals with homosexuals. My Beautiful Launderette is another.


457 posted on 02/09/2005 8:58:12 PM PST by puppets
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To: puppets

wow...I remember seeing My Beautiful Launderette when I as young. I remember really liking it, but for the life of me, I can't remember anything about it.


458 posted on 02/09/2005 9:33:37 PM PST by Hildy ( To work is to dance, to live is to worship, to breathe is to love.)
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To: Hildy
Directed by Stephen Frears (Hi Fidelity, Dangerous Liasons) and starring Daniel Day Lewis (Last of the Mohicans, My Left Foot). Here's a refresher :)
http://imdb.com/title/tt0091578/
459 posted on 02/10/2005 12:48:46 AM PST by puppets
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To: Zechariah11

Likewise...and then some.


460 posted on 02/10/2005 12:56:13 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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