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Medved on O'Reilly tonight to debate Million Dollar Baby

Posted on 02/07/2005 3:03:09 PM PST by EveningStar

Medved on O'Reilly tonight to debate Million Dollar Baby.

Fox: 8 Easter / 5 Pacific


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To: what's up

Why don't you try reading several bios on JM Barrie before you decide he's a pedophile? In actuality, Barrie saved those boys from a life of poverty and squalor after their young parents passed away. He educated them at the finest schools, gave them wonderful childhoods filled with travel and sports and bitterly mourned two of the boys' terrible premature deaths.

By the way, two of the surviving boys denied that Barrie EVER touched them in a sexual way. These facts are very easy to find out on the internet.


141 posted on 02/08/2005 5:41:22 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Million Dollar baby is about Euthanasia- BUt only if someone REALLY REALLY NEEDS IT

You're being ironic with that statement, right?

Just in case you're not, I want to make sure nobody thinks that quadraplegia is a condition that makes someone REALLY REALLY NEED euthanasia.

My neighbor two blocks down the street is quadraplegic. Just out of high school, he went to work as a housepainter. Then, you guessed it, he fell off a ladder and became completely paralyzed.

He worked hard in rehab and eventually got back enough use of his hands to be able to operate his own power wheelchair.

He married and had two beautiful children -- after being paralyzed.

He ran for election to the local school board, successfully, and has held that post for several years now. He also organizes sports events for handicapped children, and brings in celebrities for fundraising for charitable groups.

Today I see him all the time, tooling around the neighborhood in his power chair. He also drives his girls to school in a specially configured van.

All the quadraplegics I've ever met are happy to be alive.

142 posted on 02/08/2005 6:00:12 AM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: Getsmart64

American Psycho is based on the book by Bret Easton Ellis. It is a satire about the greed that saturated America in the 80s. Bale played the main character who turns to murder to find release. It actually manages to be hilarious, but obviously very dark as well. They didn't do as good with it as the book because they tried to turn it into a horror film when it works better as straight satire.


143 posted on 02/08/2005 6:33:09 AM PST by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: EveningStar; Hildy; Echo Talon; dead; LauraleeBraswell; xrp; Rakkasan1; Eva; neutrality
It's a movie stupid Medved - what next? Build a time machine and try to block Oedipus Rex (incest)? Or the double suicide scene in Romeo & Juliet (not to mention the steamy allusions to teens being sexual)?

PS: This movie has not been advertised as a feel good movie about boxing. Until Medved and his knd found the issue dujour I had no clue what it was about.

Just for the record I am against euthanasia and incest and teens commiting suicide over love -or any reason.

144 posted on 02/08/2005 7:07:56 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04
If I see a pile of crap on the sidewalk I don't feel the need to step in it

so, no, I'll not be thanking you.

145 posted on 02/08/2005 7:08:53 AM PST by Pietro
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To: Darkwolf377

Kind of a scary Stalinisation of the nation's culture - which both right and left culture nanny state tyrants are now practicing.


146 posted on 02/08/2005 7:12:42 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04


I didn't see the Passion, I'm barely even Christian.


147 posted on 02/08/2005 8:25:24 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Forgive Russia. Ignore Germany. Punish France.)
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To: varina davis

I'm glad to hear you liked the film. I'm surprised at how many freepers are upset about this.

I just saw the film this past weekend on a whim. I thought it was just about boxing and wanted to see why it was so critically acclaimed.

I'm not a big fan of women's boxing but I was captivated by the fight scenes and I am so impressed with Hillary Swank and her preparation and performance in this film. I'm a big Clint Eastwood and Morgan Freeman fan and thought they performed brilliantly. The film was so subtle but made you care so much for the characters.

Do we boycott "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" because Jack Nicholson is smothered after his lobotomy? This film does not "glorify" euthanasia and there is a strong anti-euthanasia position taken by the priest in the film.

The majority of the film is about triumph--for the boxer and the trainer.

I never felt like an agenda was being pushed.


148 posted on 02/08/2005 9:53:16 AM PST by Conservative Vet
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To: LisaMalia
That was the last movie I paid money to see, and I don't see anymore box office $$$s going to Hollywood via my pocketbook in the near future.

Going out to a movie is a very pleasurable experience. Don't let the Academy turn you off because of their choices.

149 posted on 02/08/2005 9:54:01 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: shhrubbery!
I used to think euthanasia might be understandable in my callous college days. Then I met a quadriplegic getting his PhD who asked me if I thought he'd be "better off dead."

"Million Dollar Baby" is a swindle. It's a satanic, vile movie that Eastwood should be ashamed to have had anything to do with.

My family saw the movie after reading the early reviews that said it was "uplifting and spiritual."

Instead, we left the theater disgusted and depressed, once again confronted by the fact that the world can be sicker than we ever imagine.

150 posted on 02/08/2005 9:54:33 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Conservative Vet
I totally agree and you said it well.
151 posted on 02/08/2005 9:56:44 AM PST by varina davis
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To: sarah_f
Medved is such a turd. He was back on his endless Jihad against the homeless again today.

I heard that segment. I don't know what you're talking about. Medved was advocating taking better care of the mentally ill homeless.

152 posted on 02/08/2005 10:01:26 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Easter...how appropriate.


153 posted on 02/08/2005 10:02:54 AM PST by wallcrawlr (www.bionicear.com)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

You're absolutely correct...had the film been accurately advertised as a tragedy about boxing in which the heroine is euthanized, it would not have been successful at the box office.

I'd like to have been a fly on the wall at the marketing meetings!

I must say that I was going to see it based on the "female Rocky" mood of the ads...but not now.


154 posted on 02/08/2005 10:08:34 AM PST by Bushbacker (ttlGe)
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04
Medved AND O'Reilly? Now there's a brain trust if I ever saw one. I'd rather eat urinal cakes with my morning orange juice than watch these two morons whine about Clint Eastwood's brilliant movie because they were "offended" by it's intriguing plot developements.

I saw the segment on replay last night. O'Reilly had another critic opposite Michael. O'Reilly had seen the movie this past weekend and he liked it. He disagreed with Michael.

155 posted on 02/08/2005 10:08:46 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: Conservative Vet
Now you've done it. "One Flew Over the Nutballs Nest" is the second worst movie ever made.

For exactly the same reason that MDB stinks.

We're supposed to believe that the regal Indian's despicable pillow-over-Jack's-face, "Me God; You ain't," is to be applauded; that somehow death is preferable to life. That's pure satanism. And it teaches us that when the world does something stupid, it's better to give up and kill ourselves than fight back.

Hmmm... Wonder who profits from that stance?

Are you aware that in that movie Nicholson is a twice confessed and convicted rapist who declares the women "had it coming?" Everybody forgets that.

And the sophomoric idea that violent, mentally-handicapped patients are somehow better off without their medications is straight out of some 14-year-old's term paper.

Have you ever been to a real mental institution, like Camarillo is California. I have a friend who loved this movie until they visited Camarillo. They came back thinking Nurse Ratched got a raw deal.

Hollywood loves to direct more than films. They believe it's their duty to raise middle America out of its stultified ignorance and shove its face into the real world.

As if Hollywood would know the real world if it fell on them. (Which sounds like a great pitch to me.)

156 posted on 02/08/2005 10:20:15 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Darkwolf377; Destro; jennyjenny
All the people bitching about this, I guess they never see movies with bad guys, have never enjoyed a movie in which any character gets killed, don't see Hitchcock or Peckinpah or Kubrick or Spielberg or Mel Gibson-directed movies in which characters KILL other characters--because those movies are "about" the main character killing someone. And they'd never see a suspense film because they haven't been warned ahead of time what it's REALLY about.

We're not talking about movies where the main character kills someone or where bad guys get killed. We're talking about assisted suicide. Assisted suicide is a hot button issue with many people (although not with me).

157 posted on 02/08/2005 10:22:17 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: Sloth
And "The Village" is set in present day, and the parents are the monsters.

Man this is fun...

158 posted on 02/08/2005 10:31:54 AM PST by Jimmyclyde (Dying ain't much of a living boy...)
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To: Non-Sequitur

I haven't seen it and might watch it on cable later, if I am bored in the field.

I don't go to the movies, so I didn't pay close attention to the ads, but the ads I saw, gave me the impression it was a up beat boxing story.


159 posted on 02/08/2005 10:34:42 AM PST by razorback-bert (An ASC-American)
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To: Destro
It's a movie stupid Medved - what next? Build a time machine and try to block Oedipus Rex (incest)? Or the double suicide scene in Romeo & Juliet (not to mention the steamy allusions to teens being sexual)?

Michael was addressing assisted suicide, not regular suicide or incest. If you want to know how he feels about those topics, why not call his show? He welcomes opposing views.

160 posted on 02/08/2005 10:36:36 AM PST by EveningStar
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