Thank goodness there are some who will stand for life out there.
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To: Coleus; gopwinsin04
PRO LIFE PING!!!!
>>>A frozen embryo destroyed in a Chicago fertility clinic was a human being whose parents are entitled to file a wrongful death lawsuit, a Cook County judge rules Friday.<<<
Judge rulled the embryo was a Human Being!!!!
2 posted on
02/05/2005 7:56:51 AM PST by
Calpernia
(Breederville.com)
To: gopwinsin04
Amen, let the Truth come out!
3 posted on
02/05/2005 7:57:35 AM PST by
The Mayor
(Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.)
To: gopwinsin04
This one passed the all-important "Planned and Wanted" test. It's never been about the fetus.
7 posted on
02/05/2005 7:58:53 AM PST by
anonymous_user
(Not everything's a conspiracy.)
To: gopwinsin04
'thrown out', means exactly what?,
toilet?
city dump?
treat for Spot and Fluffy?
To: gopwinsin04
I would be interested in knowing what the motivations and philosophies of this couple are. If it's just money and a free in-vtro fertilization cycle then settlement is likely in the offing. If, on the other hand, they are committed Pro-Life people then this case will undoubtedly go forward to some final determination on the Humanity of the blastocyst.
I hope the latter but I suspect the former.
11 posted on
02/05/2005 8:11:42 AM PST by
drt1
To: gopwinsin04
13 posted on
02/05/2005 8:44:01 AM PST by
LiteKeeper
(Secularization of America is happening)
To: gopwinsin04
Friday, Judge Jeffrey Lawrence II said 'a pre-embryo is a human being..whether or not it is impanted in its mother's womb' and the couple is entitled to seek the same compensation awarded to other parents whose children are killed. 'Philisophers and theologians may debate,' he wrote, but there is no doubt in the mind of the Illinois legislature when life begins. It begins at conception.' A fascinating ruling on many, many, many levels. Does this mean that the disposal of unwanting in vitreo embryos consitutes murder in the eyes of the State of Illinois? Does this mean that the clinic is subject to criminal charges as well as civil damages? What does this do for abortion laws in Illinois?
16 posted on
02/05/2005 8:52:53 AM PST by
dirtboy
(Tagloin down for oil change and lube because it was squeaking)
To: gopwinsin04
Northwestern Law Professor Dorothy Roberts warned that the ruling may have 'scary' and 'dangerous' implications for the law.
After all, we can't have people being called human!
/sarcasm
18 posted on
02/05/2005 8:56:17 AM PST by
RetroWarrior
("We count it death to falter, not to die")
To: gopwinsin04
I have a problem with this ruling. If the embryo is a "human being" then that makes it a dependent. If I have frozen, vital, fertilized embryos stored in a clinic, can I then take an income tax deduction for each and every one of them?
Also, do they need special care? Does the clinic have to hire neo-natal intensive care nurses to watch the freezer in case these "human beings" need special care?
There is more to this than meets the eye.
19 posted on
02/05/2005 8:57:18 AM PST by
Lionround
(Any litigators out there? Email me about free republic specials. dg@litcominc.com)
To: gopwinsin04
There is a small problem here; the Talmud is one of the reference documents that anchors American Jurisprudence. And the Talmud states categorically that a human life is not human at conception, nor for many days thereafter.
This ruling, unfortunately, will be overturned in short order.
24 posted on
02/05/2005 10:20:14 AM PST by
gobucks
(http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
To: gopwinsin04; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
This is indeed good news! I hope this judge's ruling holds. NARAL may try to use its powerful 'friends' to have it overturned.
RIGHT TO LIFE
2270 Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person -- among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.
Catechism Catholic Church
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27 posted on
02/05/2005 10:37:15 AM PST by
NYer
("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
To: gopwinsin04
A frozen embryo >>>
What happened to the other embryos? On average a woman takes fertility drugs produces about 20 or more eggs, they get fertilized, many children are created, some are put on ice in a Gulag while the others are implanted, usually 3 at a time.
28 posted on
02/05/2005 10:41:24 AM PST by
Coleus
(Oppose Amnesty for Illegal Aliens http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1335643/posts)
To: gopwinsin04
This is a huge precendent.
32 posted on
02/05/2005 11:19:33 AM PST by
Centurion2000
(Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
To: gopwinsin04
33 posted on
02/05/2005 11:27:14 AM PST by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: gopwinsin04
36 posted on
02/05/2005 1:08:54 PM PST by
DBeers
To: gopwinsin04
Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
37 posted on
02/05/2005 1:14:53 PM PST by
EternalVigilance
(Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
To: MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...
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40 posted on
02/05/2005 1:31:19 PM PST by
cpforlife.org
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To: gopwinsin04; JennieOsborne; /\XABN584; 3D-JOY; 5Madman; <1/1,000,000th%; 11B3; 1Peter2:16; ...
This should be BREAKING NEWS.. this may be the case to go ALL THE WAY !!!
Passing it on..
42 posted on
02/05/2005 3:03:43 PM PST by
davidosborne
(www.davidosborne.net)
To: gopwinsin04
"Friday, Judge Jeffrey Lawrence II said 'a pre-embryo is a human being..whether or not it is impanted in its mother's womb' and the couple is entitled to seek the same compensation awarded to other parents whose children are killed. 'Philisophers and theologians may debate,' he wrote, but there is no doubt in the mind of the Illinois legislature when life begins. It begins at conception.'It is really quite amazing. Judge Lawrence has to be one in a million. It would be a good idea to send him some letters and phone calls of support.
59 posted on
02/05/2005 5:34:48 PM PST by
TAdams8591
(The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
To: 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; Balto_Boy; ...
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66 posted on
02/05/2005 9:30:06 PM PST by
Mr. Silverback
(A woman needs abortion like a fish needs a bicycle.)
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