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To: Coleus; gopwinsin04
PRO LIFE PING!!!!

>>>A frozen embryo destroyed in a Chicago fertility clinic was a human being whose parents are entitled to file a wrongful death lawsuit, a Cook County judge rules Friday.<<<

Judge rulled the embryo was a Human Being!!!!

2 posted on 02/05/2005 7:56:51 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Time to set a precedent with some case law here..


4 posted on 02/05/2005 7:57:39 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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Another reason why the Catholic Church and other faiths are AGAINST this procedure which is contrary to God's family plan.  Just because the technology is there doesn't mean that we have to use it. In addition, there is some empirical relationship between IVF and an increase in Uterine Cancer and other evidence that Children Born from this procedure are not as healthy as other children conceived the natural way.  Adoption is the loving option.

Embryonic stem cells come from an embryo.  An embryo is an individual, genetically-distinct human-being, a baby.  And we cannibals in America harvest these babies for their body parts.    It's sort of like a baby parts factory.  We make them in fertility clinics, about 360 of them found in many towns across America, where parents create a bunch of babies in a test tube, In-Vitro Fertilization, (IVF) implant some,  where some are aborted and if they're lucky one will implant and grow to term while the parents' other children are put on ice, a Gulag of sorts, until the babies are sold to labs where their parts will be used.  There are an estimated 400,000 babies on ice right now in the USA.
This research is legal so long as private and state money is used where NJ and CA are in the process of funding embryonic stem cell research and cloning.   Federal funding is available to only the lines already in use.  It's wrong but it's better than starting new lines of humans for research.   NJ goes further and allows the cloned baby to grow to term where it is legal to kill it after he/she reaches 9 months!  All in the name of Science.

When you read this article, it may be more of a reality for you. 

Tim and Mary artificially conceived 15 children, after their conception their children weren't in a warm 98.6 degree surrounding inside their mother.  NO they  were sent to the Gulag and put on ice for a few weeks.    6 of her CHILDREN were thawed like a piece of steak, and the so-called 3 "viable" were implanted which means the other 3 unviable were thrown in the garbage (aborted by the human hand)? The article didn't say.  She is now pregnant with twins which means the other child didn't make it and was aborted.  So, the 3 unviable thawed children were "aborted" or thrown in the garbage before implantation and the other one of the 3 implanted was aborted from inside the mother.  Notice they didn't say how it happened or what happened  to the embryo/baby.

The article further asks this question, "What should they do with any unused frozen embryos?"  or should the article say what should they do with the 9 children they already have on ice or what the parents should do to the rest of THEIR CHILDREN they created! How are they going to explain or rationalize the facts to their grown children if they ever ask or find out how they were created?  

Well instead of adopting a child we decided to create 15 children, the two of you were lucky enough to grow to term, 3 of your brothers and sisters didn't thaw correctly and had to be discarded like a freezer-burned hamburger and the rest of your 9 brothers and sisters (probably still alive in a lab or freezer) have been sentenced to death where they were sent to a Gulag awaiting to be harvested for their parts all in the name of science in a country were INDIVIDUAL rights, based on biblical principals, were supposed to have been granted by law.

Notice one option is to have the embryos "adopted" by another couple.  That hardly happens, that's why there are 400,000 babies on ice.  

Hey, why didn't Tim and Mary adopt in the first place?  Adoption the loving option, Adoption not Abortion.

Why create 15 human lives where only 2 survived when all they could have done was to adopt a child already born, just waiting for a loving family and home?

Actress Brooke Shields aborted  some of  her very own Children by undergoing 7 IVF Treatments

Adult Stem Cell use, ( an ethical and effective approach), is a process by which stem cells are taken from: umbilical cord blood, bone marrow, fat cells, nasal cells and elsewhere  have been PROVEN successful, some as long as 30 years, in many instances where cancer was cured and spinal cord victims regained the "limited" use  and sensation of their arms and legs.  We should continue to use something that is proven ethical and effective, let your representatives know how you feel.

Zygotes and embryos are people  and so is soilent green, looks like the Charlton Heston sci-fi movie wasn't so far-fetched or fiction for that matter.

Harvesting Fetal Body Parts

“A Catholic person who actually procures an abortion occurs a latae sententiae excommunication.”

 
When Do Human Beings Begin? former NIH bench research biochemist Dianne Irving demonstrates the scientific fact that the lives of human beings--and human persons--begin at conception.
Personhood Begins At Conception Professor Kreeft explains what exactly a "person" is.
Is the Unborn Less Than Human?Dr. Beckwith explains why it does not make sense to argue that a human being is created at implantation, quickening, or birth.
When Does a Human Become a Person? Continuing the previous essay, Dr. Beckwith demonstrates why other functional criteria given for personhood--such as sentience, brain development, and viability--are inadequate. He then refutes the "gradualist" position. Finally, he discusses the positions of various abortion and infanticide advocates like James Rachels, Mary Wollenkott, and Michael Tooley.
Does Life Begin At Implantation? Dr. Beckwith addresses the phenomena of monozygotic twinning, hydatiform moles, choriocarcinoma, blighted ova, cloning, and fertilization wastage, that fail to disprove the position that human life begins at conception.
Scientific and Philosophical Expertise: An Evaluation of the Arguments on Personhood -- Biochemist, Dianne N. Irving, Ph.D argues that positions which assert that early human embryos are not persons are based on inadequate philosophical principles and faulty scientific data.
The Human Rational Soul in the Early Embryo Professor Heaney discusses the various theories of "ensoulment"
A Survey of Arguments for Immediate versus Delayed Animation Thomist Philosopher Scott Sullivan critically analyzes the theory of mediate animation. The Tiniest Humans -- an interview with the renowned geneticist Jerome Lejeune and the father of modern embryology, Sir Albert William Liley
 
 

The Facts of Prenatal Development--Is it a human being?

Fetal Pain  Born Alive! 

When The Unborn Doesn't Go Quietly To His Execution, "Tiny Tim"


21 posted on 02/05/2005 10:12:27 AM PST by Coleus (Oppose Amnesty for Illegal Aliens http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1335643/posts)
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To: Calpernia

Is this the first time a court has done this??

Between this and the unborn child protection act, the clear schizophrenia about the humanity of the fetus with respect to the law only grows louder and louder.

-- Joe


46 posted on 02/05/2005 3:57:56 PM PST by Joe Republc
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