[gopwinsin04]

Thank goodness there are some who will stand for life out there.

[Calpernia]

PRO LIFE PING!!!!

>>>A frozen embryo destroyed in a Chicago fertility clinic was a human being whose parents are entitled to file a wrongful death lawsuit, a Cook County judge rules Friday.<<<

Judge rulled the embryo was a Human Being!!!!

[The Mayor]

Amen, let the Truth come out!

[anonymous_user]

This one passed the all-important "Planned and Wanted" test. It's never been about the fetus.

[greasepaint]

'thrown out', means exactly what?,
toilet?
city dump?
treat for Spot and Fluffy?

[drt1]

I would be interested in knowing what the motivations and philosophies of this couple are. If it's just money and a free in-vtro fertilization cycle then settlement is likely in the offing. If, on the other hand, they are committed Pro-Life people then this case will undoubtedly go forward to some final determination on the Humanity of the blastocyst.

I hope the latter but I suspect the former.

[LiteKeeper]

L'Chaim - Survive

[dirtboy]

Friday, Judge Jeffrey Lawrence II said 'a pre-embryo is a human being..whether or not it is impanted in its mother's womb' and the couple is entitled to seek the same compensation awarded to other parents whose children are killed. 'Philisophers and theologians may debate,' he wrote, but there is no doubt in the mind of the Illinois legislature when life begins. It begins at conception.'

A fascinating ruling on many, many, many levels. Does this mean that the disposal of unwanting in vitreo embryos consitutes murder in the eyes of the State of Illinois? Does this mean that the clinic is subject to criminal charges as well as civil damages? What does this do for abortion laws in Illinois?

[RetroWarrior]

Northwestern Law Professor Dorothy Roberts warned that the ruling may have 'scary' and 'dangerous' implications for the law.

After all, we can't have people being called human!
/sarcasm

[Lionround]

I have a problem with this ruling. If the embryo is a "human being" then that makes it a dependent. If I have frozen, vital, fertilized embryos stored in a clinic, can I then take an income tax deduction for each and every one of them?

Also, do they need special care? Does the clinic have to hire neo-natal intensive care nurses to watch the freezer in case these "human beings" need special care?

There is more to this than meets the eye.

[gobucks]

There is a small problem here; the Talmud is one of the reference documents that anchors American Jurisprudence. And the Talmud states categorically that a human life is not human at conception, nor for many days thereafter.

This ruling, unfortunately, will be overturned in short order.

[NYer]

This is indeed good news! I hope this judge's ruling holds. NARAL may try to use its powerful 'friends' to have it overturned.

RIGHT TO LIFE
2270 Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person -- among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.
Catechism Catholic Church

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[Coleus]

A frozen embryo >>>

What happened to the other embryos? On average a woman takes fertility drugs produces about 20 or more eggs, they get fertilized, many children are created, some are put on ice in a Gulag while the others are implanted, usually 3 at a time.

[Centurion2000]

This is a huge precendent.

[Salvation]

This is great news!

[DBeers]

wow!!!!

[EternalVigilance]

Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

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[davidosborne]

This should be BREAKING NEWS.. this may be the case to go ALL THE WAY !!!

Passing it on..

[TAdams8591]

"Friday, Judge Jeffrey Lawrence II said 'a pre-embryo is a human being..whether or not it is impanted in its mother's womb' and the couple is entitled to seek the same compensation awarded to other parents whose children are killed. 'Philisophers and theologians may debate,' he wrote, but there is no doubt in the mind of the Illinois legislature when life begins. It begins at conception.'

It is really quite amazing. Judge Lawrence has to be one in a million. It would be a good idea to send him some letters and phone calls of support.

[Mr. Silverback]

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